Official Naruto 77 Discussion **SPOILERS**

[ZeaLitY]

You also have to be mindful of the entire anime vs. manga problem. If the anime were cut and clean, it would catch up too quickly with the manga, meaning an entire story arc would have to be devoted to filler. This is what killed Rurouni Kenshin -- the filler arc meant to give the artist time to continue the manga sucked so bad it killed the show.

I enjoy having the extra stuff that appears in the anime; it's like listening to a longer remix of a song. The crappy flashbacks make the fight sequences sweeter, and the excellent flashbacks, such as the ones of this episode (Naruto's dark hell was amazingly good), are crucial to good character development.

[Everon]

bleh coming to these forums is a waste of time nowadays. All i hear is GET ON WITH THE FIGHTiN'. LETS GET IT ONNNW! Yes it seems repetitive that we see Naruto saying he's been hated by everyone, but ya know, he also says that his friends are what kept him sane, and prevented him from turning into something like Gaara. Yes, Naruto in the hospital knew that Gaara and he were similar, but it is only till now that we get what makes them different.

I didn't find flashing to Oro in Hokage to be the best choice in time usage, but i think they're doing overall a great job.

(Really I understand that you guys like naruto, but if you become way too critical of the show you will start to hate it. )

[HimizujinEternia]

Originally posted by: Everon
bleh coming to these forums is a waste of time nowadays. All i hear is GET ON WITH THE FIGHTiN'. LETS GET IT ONNNW! Yes it seems repetitive that we see Naruto saying he's been hated by everyone, but ya know, he also says that his friends are what kept him sane, and prevented him from turning into something like Gaara. Yes, Naruto in the hospital knew that Gaara and he were similar, but it is only till now that we get what makes them different.

I didn't find flashing to Oro in Hokage to be the best choice in time usage, but i think they're doing overall a great job.

(Really I understand that you guys like naruto, but if you become way too critical of the show you will start to hate it. )

Everon, that is one of the most intelligent things I've ever heard uttered on this board. you have justified the flashbacks I appreciated already even further.

I was also semi upset with the Oro/Hokage flash-to, but at least we still know that the fight is still going on.

And as for your final statement, I find it all too true. I have a friend who seems to be unable to watch anime because he doesn't like to just watch and enjoy. He really only watches Star Trek, and so was waned into the idea that there is always an alegorical meaning to everything and that each episode has to be self contained. He also hates cliffhanger endings. Watching LastEXILE, he doesn't focus on characters or plot; instead, he focuses on how the military strategy is so realistic. Watching Scrapped Princess, he reads so much into things that he figures out one of the premises of the show by a mere assumption two episodes in.

In short, just watch and try to see more than just what you're looking for in something. If you only look for fighting in NAruto, you're missing out on a really well written plot; if you only look for plot, you see all fights as "KAge Bunshin fests" when in reality, each fight has it's own unique nature. Just try to see the broad picture in everything. I guarantee, it will improve your enjoyment.

[Uchiha-Itachi]

Good saying, now you only need to explain it too the hardheaded kids in this forum (Good Luck) >.>;;

[Uchiha-Itachi]

oh btw any admins here that are still alive and are willing to help a person?

How do i add my own avatar of choice instead of the stupid list you can choose from??

thx [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

[Mut]

Originally posted by: Uchiha-Itachi
oh btw any admins here that are still alive and are willing to help a person?

How do i add my own avatar of choice instead of the stupid list you can choose from??

thx [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

http://forums.gotwoot.net/messagevie...;enterthread=y

[sexy_no_jutsu]

finally, a decent episode. loved the art and the quality of the flashbacks...very touchy^^

[kage_bunshin]

it was a pretty good episode i guess!

but i sometimes wish the previews don't hype up the next episode too much. Like for e.g, the naruto 77 preview shown on naruto 76 made me think that gaara and naruto were gonna fight in the whole episode!Personally when i see a preview like that my expectations go up really high!

[Rek]

...personally, I never watch the previews... partially because I'm so damn eager to watch the next episode, partially because when I can't seee the next episode, I suffer withdrawl... which lead to varied symptoms, like becoming skinnier than a Coked Up Whore, shaking, and taking 3 freshman, giving them a dollar to wear blue rags on their heads, and help me jump people.


It's kinda funny to the 2 people that get the reference.

[itachi_]

I have a grudge against these guys a.k.a narutards that just keep complaining about the fights that there are none, just enjoy the series because it's good, if not just listen to the music it's fantastic. This episode was great, awesome flashbacks as well. I really liked the music in the end, first very silent, then higher, higher, it was really good.

[?igma]

Originally posted by: Kagari
I love the opposite extremes of posters in this thread....there are intelligent watchers, (i.e. jonny-mt, assrtnfailure, and neji-aniki-sama).....

and then there's the little dbz mites who think anything without huge jutsus and battle scenes is a waste of time (outtawack, konohamarucorps, and fei to name a few.)

I wish these people would stop posting, it's gets quite iirtating to learn that all you have to contribute is "BOOO NO MORE FLASHBAKCS WGHERES THE JUTSU OMFG"




Well, anyways....I loved this episode, it was incredible. Amazing flashbacks, I can't believe Yashamaru....the way the displayed gaara's "transformation" to evil (with the changing eyes turning mighty red) was awesome, I feel sooo bad for gaara...


also, I felt this episode was a HUGe step for naruto...I think he's truly matured as a character, and this episode proves it. He understands gaara's plight, understands how they are similar, and also how they are different....plus, he's no longer afraid to die [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

78 is gonna be bomb, lets get bigger frogs! Anyone think that little dude can do anything?!

This ep was AWESOME, I almost start loving Gaara [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
these episodes give us the best flashbacks possible, because at this point in Naruto two directions of the human psyche are shown, loneliness can get u mad (course that demon might have helped) or it get you very stubborn. It's showing us an epic story about good and evil as should be, Evil isnt born evil, it becomes evil. You are born neutral.
It's all life lessons and for that only, I would have disliked the episode, but every ending with Naruto pledging total commitment to suicide just ROX [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img], even better if he wins

[itachi_]

You get kinda exited, and as you said stubborn and mad, like "comon, do it naruto"... this episode was "deep" really "deep"

[Assertn]

wow, where were all the anime connoisseurs back when the in-denial dbz fans were overrunning us?[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

[Mut]

can't you see that naruto has no chance? naruto as a story is gonna be coming to an end soon...god, it's so obvious.

[The_Fourth]

I really liked this episode it had great music, backgrounds, etc. And by the looks of it, the next episode will be really awesome.

[Stoopider]

Flashbacks are kewl. It gives a in depth background and also builds up the tension to a fight, and instills in us the passion Naruto and friends are going thru.

However, repeated flashbacks are old. Irritating, and waste of time.

However, for people in Japan not downloading the anime like we do, if they so happen to miss a episode (or two), flashbacks really help alot.

[Gods_Son]

Originally posted by: Mut@t@
can't you see that naruto has no chance? naruto as a story is gonna be coming to an end soon...god, it's so obvious.

heh, good one.
About all the complaining, people will find something to bitch about whether there's fighting or not, don't worry about it.

[magimaster120]

I do like flashbacks and all, but sometimes I think the creators are pushing it. It seems like some of it was just filler and I think the two episode flashbacks (76-77) could have been cut down to 1 and a half episodes with some good cutting and add in some more fighting. Otherwise I felt that the gaara flashback was really deep and I felt so bad for the poor little kid.

Of course we all know what we want from the next episode... THE NEW THEME SONG!!!!!!! (It has been half a year since the last theme song was released.)

[Mut]

when i say this, i'm talking directly about the manga readers who come on to the naruto anime forum and 'act' like they are predicting random shit when, in fact, they already know what is gonna happen: what the fuck are you doing?

am i the only one who notices that this happens often?

[Uchiha-Itachi]

Originally posted by: Mut@t@
when i say this, i'm talking directly about the manga readers who come on to the naruto anime forum and 'act' like they are predicting random shit when, in fact, they already know what is gonna happen: what the fuck are you doing?

am i the only one who notices that this happens often?

nope i noticed this a while ago (especially with that itachi_ dude)

.. ah well..