yeah.....while naruto may be able to perform the most complex jutsus, how well effecient they are is hard to predict
the frog is a good example of that, as well as how sometimes he'll create 5 bunshins, and then sometimes he'll get 50
im sure sometimes the smaller #s are on purpose.....but i dont think he's been able to create as many as he did in the 1st episode yet
anyway......im goin to bed.....see ya
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Sheesh, give the gal a break...heh, heh[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
you're assuming she ever learns the summoning technique......
it DOES take alot of chakra to perform afterall, regardless of how well you can control it
Yer mean... I already know that...
no seriously, sakura is a so so character shes alright if she would grow up a bit.
and on another not but was it me or did gaara say we should fight together.
time idex 18:59 gaara did say fight with me is that a translation error.
He can create the same amount of kagebuushins as in the 1st episode essily. Its just that when you use kagebuushin the chakra gets distributed evenly. So the more you make, the weaker each one is.
Nice episode i love the background explanation of the characters. Cute lil frog Naruto summoned ^^.
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Unlike most of the others kiddo's here who come screaming, whining, yelling and crying for there mommy's everytime there was some background information (flashbacks) in the episode wich they don't seem to be care of cuz they're too stupid to understand it anyways and are only watching it for the fighting scene's.
Should really piss of or quit being on this Naruto forum, cuz you just make yourself look stupid and immature.
If you want non stop fighting you should look erm.. erm.. DBZ? (puke) cuz you guys are on the same lvl as this piece of shit..
God.. can we have some nice and mature (!!) discussions on this forums pls instead of whining all the time for crying out loud..
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kthxbye~~
...or maybe its just showing that he's not in as life threatening of a situation as he was in falling off a cliff (I mean, he's underrating himself again) and we haven't seen this froggy in action, so maybe he can do something useful (liek Kamakazi) and, about the flashback dealy
- sure, maybe someone might have picked up on their similarities (I did, and a few others have mentioned it) but this layed it out... and to the people that are saying this is the worst episode ever, then you need to find a different anime to follow. Because this episode added depth to what were originally shallow characters. I used to think that Gaara was a total pussy for freaking out over killing his mother, but then finding out that he was never loved... wow. And Naruto. They never said before that he HATED the villagers. Can you imagine what would happen if he had actual power before getting the Kage Bushiin No Jutsu? Holy hell... he'd be stronger than Gaara, no problem... The Nine Tailed Fox is stronger than that Sand Demon thing. (hence the "The Kyuubi" and "a sand demon that we happened to have sitting in a jar ...damn uncle steve ...never trashes anything"
Man i loved the episode... great flashbacks , nice animation ... let the fight begin ! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
bah ... I think 79 is gonna be bad animation (not 78)
If they keep going like this, they will exceed the Frieza fight in episodes. Gaara says the same every episode, you see the same Hokage vs Orochimaru part in every episode, it gets boring. Just leave out all the Gaara talk and put that flashback about his history in one episode. Also let Sarutobi die (by Orochimaru's sword or his own technique) and let us know what happens with Oro, but don't go the way you are going now.
Originally posted by: Outtawack311
Hey, yes i would have caught the comparrison between Naruto and Gaara. Wanna know how? They have compared the way they live at least 2-3 times before. Like I said, they think we are morons by repeating it over and over, then when they meet they lengthen an unnecessary explaination to put the fight off and keep everyone in suspense when they dont need to.
....it seems a waste to respond, but i'll try my best: The last time they made a comparison like that was episode 58, in the hospital room. People who don't have the luxury of owning every single episode on their PC will have a hard time remembering exactly what happened 4 months ago, coach.
The series is not meant to speed through every story, and they are HARDLY repeating things over and over. Learning abhout yashamaru and his sister, learning about gaara's name,The change of gaara from good to evil? how is that repeating?
The only 'Repeat" was a 2 minute segment where naruto reflects on his life, which is so incredibly important to his developpment as a character. It's a shame you don't understand the importance of these flashbacks and recollections.
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The flashbacks are not the problem. Flashbacks are necessary to explain characters' past, and in a lengthy series, it's required to keep people from having to hunt old episodes down in order to have a bare understanding of what's going on.
But the way it's being done right now in Naruto is utterly pathetic. The Gaara's past + Naruto's comparsion could've easily been compressed in a single episode. All they needed to do was to dedicate a whole episode to it, instead of diluting it across three episodes, what completely removes any possible tension and antecipation.
It's ridiculous seeing Sarutobi and Orochimaru in the very same position for a whole month, because they must wait until Naruto finishes Gaara off so they can move on. Serisouly. It's as if time stopped after episode 74.
The main problem here is that the last four episodes have been nearly identical, and little to nothing changes/happens in each episode, and I'm not talking about fighting. The pacing is horrible right now, and I hope they get it fixed up after this mess gets to an end, because Naruto has been getting less and less interesting every episode after 70 or so. FMA, as example, is doing a much, much better work with episode pacing.
what? no way.....the gaara flashbacks alone add up to at LEAST 1 episode, and thats if you take out the oro stuff, the gai/kakashi stuff, and the stuff with gaara beating up sakura and talking to naruto. Keep in mind also, that they didnt even add much extra to the flashbacks from the manga and it still took that much time (sure the scene with gaara and the sunset with his mom and stuff wasnt in the manga, but it was played at the same time that the important dialogue was presented, so it didnt really add to the time anyway). In fact the only part of the flashbacks that added time was when gaara put yashamaru's finger in his mouth [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
the point is, it wouldve taken 2 eps to cover the flashbacks and naruto's past.....after all of it was said and done, they prolly had only 6 or 7 minutes between BOTH episodes left over, so instead of starting the actual fight and ending it at a really awkward position, they filled it with scenes involving the gai and kakashi and extra dialogue between naruto and kakashi. being able to divide up episodes in a logical way is a good practice to follow
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
I am going to kill something if they don't stop showing the Hokage/Orochimaru scene 5 secs in every episode.
Originally posted by: Terracosmo
I am going to kill something if they don't stop showing the Hokage/Orochimaru scene 5 secs in every episode.
they are still fighting while all this is going on....what, would you have them leave it out for a whole month?
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oro vs the hokage is a really important fight... i can't remember if it ends after or be4 the naruto fight in the manga, cuz i havent really read it that well (luckily!!)..
But if it would end right away ... most of the tension would be gone by now and no one would care about naruto and gaara.
No I would have them NOT DOING THE SAME THING EVERY TIME. I am SICK of seeing Orochimaru pull the sword further in with that recycled pose he does with his hands. I -know- that it's for those who perhaps missed an episode and all that, but showing practically the same footage every episode is just plain lazyness.Originally posted by: Kagari
Originally posted by: Terracosmo
I am going to kill something if they don't stop showing the Hokage/Orochimaru scene 5 secs in every episode.
they are still fighting while all this is going on....what, would you have them leave it out for a whole month?
Oh and despite that I think they handled Gaara's past really well with the scenes they added.
I have to admit, that, after the 5th time I saw it, I started feeling sorry for him. And, no, I didn't like the episode, I am just making some screencaps...heh, hehOriginally posted by: Terracosmo
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Oh and despite that I think they handled Gaara's past really well with the scenes they added.
I normally watch each episode 10 times, but those last two are worth watching only 5 times...definitly we should start having some action now...DBZ is a bit dumb at this point to fill my spare time.
But really, on with the Hokage fight. I love the guy, was saaaaaad that he's almost done for, loved the Konoha flashbacks but really... even the Shinigami must be like...listen, Oro is not the only guy I have to wack...Do you know know many people kick the bucket every second in this world? And all under my supervision?????
Ok, the reason why the flashback of Hokage vs. Oro keeps being shown:
The have been locked in this stalemate the whole time! This is only a device to show us that yes, the fight is still continuing and that it's happening simultaneous with the fights of the rest of the village.
Did I ever say that the Gaara flashback was bad? I liked it, I HATED the Naruto one though. We know all about the villagers and Naruto, stop repeating so many times.
If the Hokage fight was so important why did they show it first?? They could have found a better way of doing it instead of finishing the fight then just showing the same ending scene for 324887324987235 episodes. This war so far is pretty boring compared to the matches and the Zabuza fight(not saying its bad though, dont twist my words).
The flashback is necessary to Gaara's character, I just don't really care for him. The only thing that's bothering me is the Hokage/Oro thing getting dragged on. Just seems like a waste of time, they should just not have shown that same clip through the past few episodes, and then showed the ending to the fight later on.
Well, it's parallel editing...like meanwhile, in Konoha...but it's easier to use it in a movie, that has around 100/120 m than in a weekly episode format...at least for the feeling I am getting. In a movie things would go faster and more integrated with the whole, while here, one has to be a genius editor to integrate that fight in a seamless manner...If you consider one isolated episode, it's like where does that come from??? a short sequence in the middle of the Naruto fight that itself has two flashbacks... I am sure that when I watch the whole arc all at once, the transitions won't be so abrupt. I see the Oro fight more problematic in term of *movie language* if I can say so, than, in terms of plot.Originally posted by: lasaire
Ok, the reason why the flashback of Hokage vs. Oro keeps being shown:
The have been locked in this stalemate the whole time! This is only a device to show us that yes, the fight is still continuing and that it's happening simultaneous with the fights of the rest of the village.
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