the punisher & hellboy

[sangai]

don't get me wrong i love all marvel movies

but in the heirachy of mine they got

spiderman
xmen 2
the punisher
xmen- hellboy would be around here but since its not marvel and is darkhorse it won't be in here
hulk
daredevil

expecting to see
iron man
the fantastic four
green lantern
superman (yes i know he is DC)
batman (yes i know he is dc)
hulk 2
daredevil 2 (its actually being made)
captain america
Wolverine (to be released after x3 supposedly)
spiderman 2 and all other new ones
and more

also on another note
Spider-Man 2: USA Today reports that the new 2 1/2-minute trailer for Spider-Man 2 will make its debut on Donald Trump's "The Apprentice", airing this Thursday on NBC at 9pm ET

[bitwar]

Originally posted by: Magnus

Whoa... WRONG! X-Men was 3.76X better than X2. The last half of Hulk was what I came to see... and anyone that didn't like the 1st half didn't understand it... it still wasn't great though. X2 was disappointing in some parts... but Wolverine saved the movie. The beginning was pretty ownage as well. Spiderman was pretty darn good. Daredevil... I wish I could erase all traces of that trash from memory. I hate wasting money. Ben A... "ghey". Jennifer Garner made the movie watchable... all 40 minutes of it... or however short it was. I'm joking. It wasn't THAT bad. At least there was no "to be continued", like at the end of The Matrix II.

I actually like X2 better. There were 2 things about it I didn't like: Changing Lady Deathstrike into a zombie puppet and focusing too much on Wolverine and not on the team until the very end. The story and everything just felt like better movie material than the first one. Of course this is the opinion of one who is not a hardcore Marvel fan.

Also Jennifer Garner annoyed me the most in Daredevil. Her fighting looked like crap, especially the twirlly sai VS sand bags scene. That's the problem with finding someone to fill the role of eye candy for fanboys and kickass fighter, they usually deliver on the former and not the latter. I don't know what it was but Keanu Reeves looked better doing the same twirling of sai in Matrix: Reloaded. Also the "to be continued" at the end of Reloaded was there because the next movie was already in post production. Reloaded and Revolutions were filmed at the same time. I have yet to hear official confirmation of Daredevil 2 (last I heard Ben was insisting on a darker movie written by Kevin Smith), and they definately didn't have solid plans for a sequel when the first was made, so no "to be continued" at the end.

My order of favoritism (for Marvel) is:
X2
Blade 2
Spiderman, X-Men (both on the same level for me)
Blade
Hulk
Daredevil

Hellboy would be at the top if it was a comic movie list and not just Marvel. That's all my personal opinion and I don't expect anyone else to share my taste in movies.

I have high hopes for this year's Marvel lineup of Punisher, Spiderman 2, and Blade 3. So many people tend to ignore the Blade series when talking about Marvel movies. . . Oh well.

[Knives122]

Originally posted by: animemaster
speaking of superhero movies i've wanted to see crossover films like a spiderman meets batman type of film. anyone think that would work out?

they couldnt do that b/c they were made by different comic book companies and spiderman and batman wouldnt work; just look at their personalities
Spiderman: always sad about how he cant save the people he loves or tell his secret to anyone
Batman: is obseesed with hiding around a corner and scaring the hell out criminals when they come that just happen to pass by.
See it wouldnt work

[shadowmantis]

oh, rawr. they should never ever ever EVAR mix comics. it just doesn't work. their worlds are soooo different. how come spidey never had to fight vampires? or how come cyclopse never fought kingpin? and why don't fantastic four join the x-men? sigh.. i wish i could bitchslap stan lee sometimes, for pimping spiderman so much. i love spiderman, and just about anything by marvel. but when i see them mix shit up, i just think like "wtf, x-men could kill kingpin in a drop of a hat. he's human."

[sangai]

uh shadow mantis i take it you havn't read older comics

lets see

hulk vs wolverine (first appearence ever of wolverine)
spiderman teams up with the fantastic four
spiderman and daredevil
xmen and spiderman
punisher vs spiderman
spiderman vs morbius (even blade made an appareance)
punisher "kills" daredevil
fantastc four and the xmen


as for dc comics
batman and superman
batman and static shock
static shock and the justice leage
superman and static shock


and believe me there are alot more like that

[yenlowang]

you do realize that comic based movies are just an obvious attempt to whore out the franchise and take our hard earned cash?

please....
admittedly spiderman was ok, but it would have been much better if you knew jack and shit about the entire spiderman mythos so you wouldnt notice all the huge gaping flaws in the storyline.

if you re going to rip apart an already established storyline then whats the point of using it in the first place other than to use the brand name to hedge your bets?

stan lee allowed all this to happen because the studios threw lots and lots of money at him. and to be honest i think he lost his artistic integrity a long long time ago.

[sangai]

really i don't mind cause i have been dying for the spiderman movie since i was like 8 i love spiderman and almost all marvel comics.

[bitwar]

Originally posted by: yenlowang
you do realize that comic based movies are just an obvious attempt to whore out the franchise and take our hard earned cash?

please....
admittedly spiderman was ok, but it would have been much better if you knew jack and shit about the entire spiderman mythos so you wouldnt notice all the huge gaping flaws in the storyline.

if you re going to rip apart an already established storyline then whats the point of using it in the first place other than to use the brand name to hedge your bets?

stan lee allowed all this to happen because the studios threw lots and lots of money at him. and to be honest i think he lost his artistic integrity a long long time ago.

Umm, well duh. Any adaptation of a TV series, book, comic, etc is "just an obvious attempt to whore out the franchise and take our hard earned cash." Hollywood's all about taking our money, our had earned cash. It always has been. Do you think movies would have gotten to be this big a deal if there wasn't profit in it for the movie-makers? Do you think the entertainment industry is a charitable organization of people who make fun things for us to be enjoy out of the goodness of their hearts? If you do, what world are you living in? No matter how far back you go, entertainment has always been nothing more than a way to make money. Movies have always been a way to make money. Whether they come up with an original story with original characters, or whether they adapt a TV series, book, comic, or whatever they're doing it because they think it will make money, or rather because they KNOW it will make money. And they try to please the public because they want them to come back for more. If you're so upset about Hollywood and/or the rest of the entertainment industry (books, TV, comics, magazines, professional sports) taking your hard earned cash, stop watching movies, stop watching TV, stop listening to the radio (save NPR), stop reading, and go live in a cave. Everything you purchase is a way for someone to get money, otherwise everything would be free. It's the way the world is. If you want to stop paying for extras that you don't need to live, don't bother with the extras at all.

I also think that they allow a lot of crap to be made so that the market doesn't get saturated with really good movies, thus making hits harder to make, but that's another story all together.

As far as comic crossovers are concerned, they are very common and abundant in comics. The idea for Aliens VS Predator was first in a comic years ago (Dark Horse), even though both were originally movies. Marvel characters appear in other Marvel series quite often. The same goes for just about every comic company. There are whole comic series that are essentially crossovers (Justice League of America, Teen Titans, Young Justice, etc.) Even crossovers between the comic companies (Batman VS Predator, Superman VS Aliens, everyone VS Aliens). Heck, you even get crossovers like X-Men and Star Trek: The Next Generation (no really, I'm serious). But these crossovers (save AVP) will probably never see the light of day. Why? The comic series' have all been licenced for Hollywood by different companies. There'd be too many firefights about who spends and gets how much of the money. There's also the issue of overall cost to get all these big-name actors to reprise their roles all in one movie. It's unrealistic. So why is AVP getting made? Both are properties of 20th Century Fox, and fans have been demanding it for years and years and years. And there are no big names that they ave to attach to it (though many Ripley fans will probably miss her in AVP, but she was never in any of the AVP comics to my knowlege). Maybe someday, year and years down the road, they'll make a crossover movie. I doubt that even Superman and Batman will get made. Except for the animated movie they already made, but the direct-to-video animated thing is a lot more open to things like that. In the cartoons, it's been done too (Spiderman vs X-Men, the previously mentioned Batman/Superman) because the Marvel stuff was all licenced by Fox, and DC was all Warner Bros. It's all about money, and that's nothing new.

[shadowmantis]

sangai sakusei, that's what i'm saying. they team up, but they're so different. it just sucks.

[sangai]

X-Men and Star Trek: The Next Generation

speaking of that if i recall they even did a star trek vs predator comic..

thats just two weird i bet the predators got along with the klingons.

[Vagabond]

Wasn't there a Batman vs. Superman movie in the works?

[sangai]

yeah but it got canned they realized there is no way in hell batman could defeat sups unless he had cryptonite and really that kinda makes for a lame story since sups could hit batz in the face and kill him instantly.

[Samanosuke]

all of you stfu with this dumb assed "they didnt stick exactly to the 40 years of storyline" shit.

like you can fit a million comics into 1 and a half to 2 hours.

comic movies = good
bastards who try to horde the comics for themselves = bastards

[bwabes]

Not all comic movies are good. Has anyone else seen the original Hulk movie? Or the second Hulk movie, for that matter? I know that for a lot of people here, if someone's killed in a gruesome fashion, than it must be a good movie. But in a lot of these movies, plot is lacking.

I will say that the X-Men movies, Spider Man, Batman, and some of the Superman movies were good because they didn't try to be a serious movie. If a comic movie tries to be serious, it'll end up poor. Conversely, if a movie tries to deadpan the entire time (read: Hellboy) it ends up being flat and pointless.

[bitwar]

Exactly Samanosuke. Exactly.

Originally posted by: bwabes
Not all comic movies are good. Has anyone else seen the original Hulk movie? Or the second Hulk movie, for that matter? I know that for a lot of people here, if someone's killed in a gruesome fashion, than it must be a good movie. But in a lot of these movies, plot is lacking.

I will say that the X-Men movies, Spider Man, Batman, and some of the Superman movies were good because they didn't try to be a serious movie. If a comic movie tries to be serious, it'll end up poor. Conversely, if a movie tries to deadpan the entire time (read: Hellboy) it ends up being flat and pointless.

Who said that those movies weren't serious movies? Do you mean lacking in all humor? Or do you mean that the movie makers did not take the movies seriously. I believe that you can make a serious movie that has humor and is not completely grave and depressing and/or overly saturated with social comentary in every single scene. I think that the recent comic movies have been serious movies and have been taken seriously (though not all possible effort was put into all of them).

[sangai]

Not all comic movies are good. Has anyone else seen the original Hulk movie? Or the second Hulk movie

i have seen those along with the original punisher the original captain america movie both where good for there times punisher was a great one back then, and as for the hulk a bit cheezy but lou ferrigno is the man. i did like them but the newer movies are much better