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  1. #21

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    i dunno it might piss some fans off

    more or less i think cameo's by characters in other movies would be alright like, for instance

    spiderman running into daredevil some how. or even peter running into matt murdock

    it could happen hell the first time wolverine was introduced was to fight the hulk.

    so yeah maybe it could happen but not for a while like not till each movie has about five of there own

  2. #22

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    There is actually a hidden scene in the X men DVD. Were a guy in the cast runs in dressed like SpiderMan and says " Oops wrong movie"

    Its pretty funny.

  3. #23

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    where is that at that would be great to see.

    i always thought that seein daredevil in a cheezy red suit in jay and silent bob was funny.

    well i know spiderman was on xmen once and he is with the fantastic four sometimes in the comics so its really hard to say.

    is the xmen dvd the first one or second one and is the first one newer like version 1.1 the rerelease they put out.

  4. #24

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    Punisher looks good. I was never really a fan of a lot of the Marvel comics. I know who the characters are supposed to be. I've read some of X-Men (Dark Phoenix Saga being the most memorable of what i've read), and not much of anything else except for a 3 issue crossover with Venom and Punisher (Funeral Pyre?). Punisher didn't impress me in that, but the crossovers don't really do justice to the characters very often. He does seem like a really good movie character. I like the dark avenging types (like The Crow).

    I'm really looking forward to Hellboy though. Mignola's work is great (and I heard he was pretty well involved in the movie and told writer/director Del Toro that if he was just starting the comics, this is the direction he'd have wanted to go). Ron Perlman IS Hellboy. Once I heard that they were making this movie Ron Perlman popped into my head. And apparently Mignola and Del Toro both came to their initial meeting about it ready to fight the other on who should play Hellboy, and both wanted Perlman. So it should be fun.

    On other comic movies this summer, I have high hopes for Spider-man 2. I liked the first one and I hope the second does it justice (and I'm not looking for more mindless action, I like the characters). Catwoman can just go away. If they didn't design a costume that makes her look like she's selling off her body on the street, I might have gone to see it. I liked the old full body costumes for Catwoman, sexy but still in good taste. The S&M look has to go. I also have hopes that Blade 3 will live up to the previous 2 movies. Great action flicks. And even though both properties were movies first, I'm eagerly awaiting Aliens VS Predator. I have the original AVP graphic novel from Dark Horse (as well as AVP: War), and it's really cool. I just hope it's not a total cash-in movie and that it has entertainment value, even if it's only the fun of seeing Predators and Aliens doing "happy fun" battle on screen.

    Oh and Banned!, do NOT go calling things "gay" unless you mean happy or homosexual (I'd even avoid using it as happy). It's an obvious sign of immaturity. And it's also very offensive. How about I find a label for you and ingrain into society that that's what you are, and then use it as a derogatory term at every possible turn? And don't go calling people fags, even if they are homosexual. I know a few that would make a black guy look nice after being called the "n word." It just pisses people off. And even if you didn't mean it that way, if you don't stop you're still an jerk. If you think the series, movie, or characters are stupid, just say that you think they're stupid (not "gay"), and then back up your statements. You can't go around in life saying things are stupid because they're stupid. Tell me why you think that and I'll respect your opinion. And if you're saying that Hellboy is homosexual, go read the comics again (assuming you've ever read them to begin with).

    And how in bloody hell do you come to the conclusion that this forum is for kids? I never got that impression. There's nothing on the site that says it's for ages 13 and under. I always viewed this forum as one for people of all ages who enjoy talking about anime, manga, fandom, and/or whatever the heck else they feel like talking about. I'm 21. Oh, and by the way, having a decent handle on grammar and punctuation would make your posts a hell of a lot easier to read. Typing in "omg" and "lol" in place of punctuation marks and replacing "you're" or "your" with "ur" is not cool, nor is it a sign of great intelligence and thus negates just about any point you are attempting to make.

    -The following is translated into plain English for those who didn't understand what Banned! was saying-

    "Haven't you ever seen the other Punisher movie that was out way before this one? omg! Don't try to make me look stupid. I make you look like that, sangai sakusei. And how old are you, posting in in a fourm that is really mainly for kids? Cause to be able to see a screening you at least have to be maybe in your 30's. lol! And KonohamaruCorps, I only called Hellboy gay. I didnt call the Punshier movie gay, alright? And what's your problem? Just cause i called Hellboy gay doesn't make me look like a fag. It's my opinion that hellboy is gay, and calling me a fag becasue you don't agree with what I said makes you look like a fag."

    Yes, I'm being a little harsh. Deal with it and stop acting like a brat. And sorry about the long post guys. If two separate posts would have been better, tell me and I'll do that next time. I am kinda new at the whole forum thing, and maybe I'm expecting too much in the way of manners from people like Banned!. Tell me what you think about that too. (use email or PM for that please).

  5. #25

    the punisher & hellboy

    nope, impossible. spiderman is marvel, and batman is dc comics. there is, however, a superman vs batman movie "in making" (since, like, 1998)

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    man, that's too many words for him. he's just gonna call you a fag, anyway. no point in arguing on forums, you can't really hurt anyone.

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    the punisher & hellboy

    Originally posted by: shadowmantis
    i've lost all faith in the comicbook-to-movie thing. spiderman was 'ally mcbeal' with CG. these movies are nothing more than summer hits. there is no substance, whatsoever, just a lot of special effects. what hurts the most is how they butcher the characters and storylines. for example, the x-men movies were really good as standalones. but it would be better if they just said it's some alternate universe or something, because nothing at all fits the story from comics and cartoons. half the characters are gone, the rest are 12 year olds. i know it's a prequel, but rogue had boobies when she joined, damnit, storm was a milf and what happened to cyclops as the main character? they might as well call the movies 'wolverines adventures'.
    see? it's just giving people what they wanna see, not sticking to the original concept. don't get me wrong, if you like the hype and effects and 2 hours of pure, mindless fun, it can be really fun. but i want (or need) more from these movies. they don't compliment the universe that was formed in the comics. if i were some kinda world dictator, i would order the ban of book/comic/cartoon remakes. what, oh what happened to originality? :/
    I agree with you, although I still wholeheartedly enjoyed the movies you're talking about. I'm a complete hardcore Spidey fanatic, and while the movie's various flaws annoyed me a lot, and while Kirsten Dunst can't act to save her life, I still love the movie.

    I just can't believe that Stan Lee himself could be executive producer on all these movies, and yet allow all these flaws to take place! Oh well.

    nope, impossible. spiderman is marvel, and batman is dc comics. there is, however, a superman vs batman movie "in making" (since, like, 1998)
    Not impossible, I mean they do crossovers sometimes, I own a Marvel vs DC crossover and I've read a Spiderman/Batman teamup. So don't rule them out too quickly. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

    But the likelyhood of a movie crossover isn't that great I guess. But you say they're making one? Interesting. I hadn't heard about that.

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  7. #27

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    even when they mix spiderman and xmen, it's.. i dunno. their universes are very different. like, spiderman is based ina relatively reealistic world, where he just fights crime. xmen world is a world of utter chaos and there's a really big mutant issue. it's like mixing snoopy with mezzo forte [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
    i like most cartoons and comics by marvel, and a few by dc, but sometimes i just think they're doing fanservice.
    and yeah, that dunst chick is the worst possible choice for mj.

  8. #28

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    i to did not like krinstin dunst as mj i thought donna from that 70 show would have been better.


    but she should do a better job

    hell i wouldn't of picked tobey maguire but he did a good job

  9. #29

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    well im off to see hellboys ill post my review later


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    RE: the punisher & hellboy

    Toby Maguire suits young high-school Peter well, he has that nerdiness aura about him, but he doesn't suit adult Peter. I can't think who would suit adult Peter better though. Any ideas?
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  11. #31

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    alright so i just finished watching hellboy and i liked it the movie initself was well done and in its seriousness it maintains a good comedy level,

    hellboy allthough not for everyone i liked it.

    some of you should enjoy this one

  12. #32

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    was Punisher better?

  13. #33

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    yes by far much better but that is because hellboy isn't marvel but it is worth seeing both of them

  14. #34

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    I figured Punisher would probably be better, I don't have the money to waste on seeing both. I'll probably end up seeing Punisher when it comes out.

  15. #35

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    It depends on your taste really. I haven't seen Punisher yet, but I'm planning to as soon as possible. So I can't say which one is better. I loved Hellboy. It's one of, if not the most faithful comic to movie translation. Granted, it takes liberties with things and it adds a new character, but he's incorperated well. So if your local comic store or library happens to have some of the hellboy graphjic novels (and you have the time) read a couple and then decide whether or not you think the movie will be worth your time. I'll probably still hold Hellboy higher than Punisher when that comes out, but I'll give Punisher every possible chance since I do want to enjoy it as well.

  16. #36

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    your right i did enjoy hellboy quite a bit, but punisher was damn good and a lil higher in quality only because i think marvel had a higher budget and a more experienced writers

    hellboy gets a 8

    punisher gets a 10

    but hellboy was really good i enjoyed punisher a bit more only cause im a marvel fan but hellboy is one you should definatly see if you havn't yet

  17. #37

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    Originally posted by: bitwar
    It depends on your taste really. I haven't seen Punisher yet, but I'm planning to as soon as possible. So I can't say which one is better. I loved Hellboy. It's one of, if not the most faithful comic to movie translation. Granted, it takes liberties with things and it adds a new character, but he's incorperated well. So if your local comic store or library happens to have some of the hellboy graphjic novels (and you have the time) read a couple and then decide whether or not you think the movie will be worth your time. I'll probably still hold Hellboy higher than Punisher when that comes out, but I'll give Punisher every possible chance since I do want to enjoy it as well.

    There are some Hellboy comics online you can read for free:

    Hellboy

    the style is very good imo, and i've been looking forward to this film for since i heard who the main character and director was (Ron Pearlman and Guillermo del Toro).

    I'll go watch Punisher but i'm not expecting much from it (most of the marvel films turn out bad imo).

  18. #38

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    I don't think it's so much that the Marvel movies turn out bad. The Marvel comics have been going on for decades and decades and have developed so many storylines and changed in so many ways, that the fans all demand different things. Also because they have so many hardcore fans, it's difficult to please them while at the same time making something that will do well in the boxoffice and please the general public. For me who's someone who recognises the names for a lot of these Marvel characters and don't know much else about them, I've actually enjoyed all of the recent movies (from Blade and X-Men on, though Daredevil could have been a helluva lot better). I didn't care for the Dolph Lungren Punisher from the 80s or Captain America.

    Hellboy's a much easier conversion because there isn't a whole crap load of comics spanning 50 years of Hellboy. That makes it easier to keep very close to the original comics while still being able to take a few liberties to give it some overall appeal. And because Mignola's not a pompous stuck-up jerk like Todd McFarlane, the Hellboy movie's a helluva lot better than Spawn (gag).

    I know next to nothing about Punisher (since it's Marvel and I don't tend to read Marvel), so as long as it's a good movie overall, I'll probably enjoy the heck out of it.

  19. #39

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    thats why i say they should stop making comicbook movies

    also.. i didn't hear you diss Todd McDaddy, did i?

  20. #40

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    Originally posted by: sangai sakuseithis movie i would have to say surpasses the hulk,daredevil and xmen and is on par with spiderman and x-men 2
    Whoa... WRONG! X-Men was 3.76X better than X2. The last half of Hulk was what I came to see... and anyone that didn't like the 1st half didn't understand it... it still wasn't great though. X2 was disappointing in some parts... but Wolverine saved the movie. The beginning was pretty ownage as well. Spiderman was pretty darn good. Daredevil... I wish I could erase all traces of that trash from memory. I hate wasting money. Ben A... "ghey". Jennifer Garner made the movie watchable... all 40 minutes of it... or however short it was. I'm joking. It wasn't THAT bad. At least there was no "to be continued", like at the end of The Matrix II.

    P.S. Struggling with downloading Hellboy when it is possibly released later this week on suprnova.org. What's with writers and demons? Punisher? I probably wont even watch it until It's on USA or TNT.

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