I guess that was to have a coherent universe...more detailled...and we might see them in action in some chapters who knows...Or what about the existence of Hunter Nins. Why didn't Konoha send out Hunter Nins for Sasuke? Why did Kishimoto even explain the purpose of Hunter Nins, if he wasn't going to use them. That's Kishimoto shitting on readers.
I hate guys that are disrespectful to autors...Dude, if you think you can do a better job then...DO IT !
Originally posted by: Iznogoud
I guess that was to have a coherent universe...more detailled...and we might see them in action in some chapters who knows...Or what about the existence of Hunter Nins. Why didn't Konoha send out Hunter Nins for Sasuke? Why did Kishimoto even explain the purpose of Hunter Nins, if he wasn't going to use them. That's Kishimoto shitting on readers.
I hate guys that are disrespectful to autors...Dude, if you think you can do a better job then...DO IT !
FYI, there are people who get paid for reviewing literature. These types of people are called critics. Do you hate these people too? Do you know who the biggest critics are? The fans. Iznogoud, you're a fan; therefore you're also a critic. Do you hate yourself as well? Don't spout such propaganda when, you, yourself are guilty of the same actions. Just the fact that you post here suggest that you're biased in one way or the other.
I am in no way proposing that I can do a better job. I am just showing that it could have been done differently. There is no right or wrong way in story-telling. I was merely supporting Death Booz statement about Kishimoto shitting on us, by giving examples.
I really hate hypocrites, who tell others not to be disrespectful of authors, yet turn around and slander their names.
heh critics...hate them lol j/k they tell the cold truth..anyway lee wow i expected him to kik alot more ass..guess not lokes like bones..is gonna wipe the floor with him..
NOOriginally posted by: I<3TenTen
Lee will beat kimi imo
5 of the 8 gates have been opened
i highly doubt gai will be the one later on
to open the 8 gates like that.
Lee will open the 8th gate later on
and kill some other big bad ass Arc 9 ninja
he will not lose to kimi now lol ..
We know so far that Lee potentially has the power
to surpass a hokage for a short amount of time before
he dies ..
Now its a garunteed that lee will unlock the 8th gate
against someone .. and your telling me that kimmi is
close to a hokage in power?
I honestly don't know why people are swallowing the members
of a character created just to be torn down by lee. Kimmi
does have a purpose .. thats to get his bones shattered by the
iron fist style and since he is all bones ... i don't know why
people are still argueing this. Kimmi's powers were created as
"Bones" for a reason, for the perfect comeback/return for lee
Come on now folks its called foreshadowing ..
EDIT: response to post below:
give me a fucking break. you're telling me, i posted with a simple "NO" to bring up my post count. oh yes, i am one more post closer to 4000! yay!
wow, dude. the reason why only replied with NO is because what you say is nonsensical. let me point out the parts where i just shook my head in disbelief that one is able to come up with such absurd thoughts:
1. Now its a garunteed that lee will unlock the 8th gate against someone .. and your telling me that kimmi is close to a hokage in power?
2. Kimmi does have a purpose .. thats to get his bones shattered by the iron fist style and since he is all bones ... i don't know why people are still argueing this. Kimmi's powers were created as "Bones" for a reason, for the perfect comeback/return for lee
let me respond to this:
1. show me the guarantee. i know wanna know how you came up with the idea that lee is guaranteed to open up the 8th gate.
2. what? everyone has bones. does that mean everyone is suppose to get their asses beat by lee? i'm not even sure how to respond to this, it's so ridiculous. the only way i see lee winning is if kimimaro's illness kicks in.
and why do you keep posting as if you're writing poetry?
PS: ten ten is a sorry excuse for a ninja.
Originally posted by: Mut@t@
NOOriginally posted by: I<3TenTen
Lee will beat kimi imo
5 of the 8 gates have been opened
i highly doubt gai will be the one later on
to open the 8 gates like that.
Lee will open the 8th gate later on
and kill some other big bad ass Arc 9 ninja
he will not lose to kimi now lol ..
We know so far that Lee potentially has the power
to surpass a hokage for a short amount of time before
he dies ..
Now its a garunteed that lee will unlock the 8th gate
against someone .. and your telling me that kimmi is
close to a hokage in power?
I honestly don't know why people are swallowing the members
of a character created just to be torn down by lee. Kimmi
does have a purpose .. thats to get his bones shattered by the
iron fist style and since he is all bones ... i don't know why
people are still argueing this. Kimmi's powers were created as
"Bones" for a reason, for the perfect comeback/return for lee
Come on now folks its called foreshadowing ..
NO
i can get my post count up tooo
lol wow.....
well i agree with the idea that lee's bone shattering taijutsu and kimimaru's bone type bloodline seems like a convenient match-up that could lead some good predictions on what will happen......but if lee opens that 8th gate.....then he is definitely going to die......in fact.....if he opened that 8th gate this early on his recovery.....then 1 of 2 things will happen.....
1) he dies afterwards.....leaving lots of pissed off fans
2) he doesnt die......thus proving the entire concept of the user dying from unlocking gates untrue and contradicting what was stated earlier in the series......leaving lots of pissed off fans
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
I could definitely see a stalemate coming, Kishimoto already did it with Gaara/Naruto. Both Lee and Kimi aren't 100%, and considering that Neji and fatty are already *possibly* dead, there's no need for a dramatic death by Lee. Another thing to consider is the humor being used in the situation .. it lends to this not being a knock-down major fight, but rather a temporary distraction during the Naruto finding Sasuke situation.
Yes, I believe this is the perfect come back for Lee. I say lee should have said "Bones... perfect, my jutsus are made for crushing bones, *nice guy pose w/ flaming eyes*".Originally posted by: I<3TenTen
Originally posted by: Mut@t@
NOOriginally posted by: I<3TenTen
Lee will beat kimi imo
5 of the 8 gates have been opened
i highly doubt gai will be the one later on
to open the 8 gates like that.
Lee will open the 8th gate later on
and kill some other big bad ass Arc 9 ninja
he will not lose to kimi now lol ..
We know so far that Lee potentially has the power
to surpass a hokage for a short amount of time before
he dies ..
Now its a garunteed that lee will unlock the 8th gate
against someone .. and your telling me that kimmi is
close to a hokage in power?
I honestly don't know why people are swallowing the members
of a character created just to be torn down by lee. Kimmi
does have a purpose .. thats to get his bones shattered by the
iron fist style and since he is all bones ... i don't know why
people are still argueing this. Kimmi's powers were created as
"Bones" for a reason, for the perfect comeback/return for lee
Come on now folks its called foreshadowing ..
NO
i can get my post count up tooo
And don't pay attention to mut@t@, his specialty is criticize-no-jutsu.
good job reading my response to it. I<3tenten is just another one of those "i'll say random shit and say it with confidence so it looks like it's fact when i really have nothing solid to back it up with".
Lol yeah, seems like 90% of Mut@t@/Dazzz posts have a higher than average element of antipathy and argumentative content.
Christ, Dazzz is a freakin Jounin. Gotta get mine up too.
chapter 212 should tell all you guys...lee is NOT on par with kimimaro...hahahahahaha.
EDIT: response to below:
lol, wtf? why would you even think that the rescuer needs to be rescued? that's lame. makes lee look like an idiot. just like that time against the sound's genins at the forest of death. haha.
and...could you not tell by how lee was bleeding and bruised up while kimimaro was just chilling and like "you suck" at him? if winged dancer is correct, lee opened up the first gate and his speed was no match for kimimaro's. kimimaro just brushed off lee's speed with just a "amazing speed, but too bad you're gonna die now, goodbye." lee was seconds away from dying. gaara had to save the "heroic rescuer" lee with cat litter.
SUCKS FOR ALL YOU LEE FANS....WHAT WERE YOU GUYS THINKING... ROFLMAO (i didn't really roll on the floor laughing my ass off).
EDIT: response to hiten's edit:
just because kimimaro wasn't the aggressor that doesn't mean he can't hit lee. none of should assume that cuz we truly don't know.
then i'm sure someone will say something like "well, if you say that, then maybe lee escaped and kicked kimimaro's ass, but we can't say that cuz we don't know either...there goes your theory/idea"
nope, wrong. if lee was able to escape then gaara wouldn't have to have saved lee's geeky ass.
but who cares, lee got owned. kimimaro knocked his ass out...had to wait for lee to open up his eye from loss of unconsciousness. aaaaaaaaahahaha... but gaara is gonna clean house and lee will help too. too bad, when that happens, all the lee fans are gonna go crazy again acting like lee actually did something.
*NOTE: i'm going by winged dancer's translation for right now...i'll just edit everything if i need to when the inane version comes out.
LOL...how so? Everyone pretty much knew that someone was going to intervene. But if nobody interfered, my money would still be on Lee. ROFL...Originally posted by: Mut@t@
chapter 212 should tell all you guys...lee is NOT on par with kimimaro...hahahahahaha.
answer to post below....but that's because Lee's the agressor, he's the one attacking. All Kimimaro was doing was defending. Clearly Kimimaro couldn't attack Lee properly either. Kimimaro isn't fast enough to even touch Lee.
That's why it's so funny; to make such a comment when the fight really didn't even start, kind of like Naruto's.
What else is going to happen, Gara begins to fight and then Baki shows up. Baki begins to fight and then Gai shows up. Then Oro shows up. Then Itachi shows up for Naruto. Then Jaraiya shows up. Then we can have one big free for all.
I think he's referring to the fact that Lee was not yet able to penetrate Kimi's bone defense, and Lee appeared to be sustaining injuries from the battle rather quickly. I love Lee, but I think he was getting the worst of the encounter up to the point where Gaara shows up looking all gothic and cool [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
1. Mut@t@ is the man!!!
2. Neji could beat the crap out of Lee...its true its true
Okay, Mut@t@ .. Looks like I am your huckleberry, this afternoon. Here will be that one time you are wrong. Heh. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
Lee was the aggressor. True.
Kimimaro can not hit Lee. True & False. I am sure if Kimimaro truly tried to hit Lee, now with his soberness returning, Lee would have been hit. However, Kimimaro did make an attempt in striking Lee. Several times. And, the result? A parry, or deflection followed by swift counter-attacks. It is not that Kimimaro cannot strike Lee, simply that he could not ..
"If Lee was able to escape, then Gaara would not have to save him .." .. I will not even comment on your statement there. The moment you used the word "if", you opened up the largest can of worms (called "possibility ..") for yourself, which I won't partake in consuming.
[i.e. -- "If Gaara did not have that gourd, he would be dead .." See what I'm saying? Fin.]
And, if you truly want to get technical about who will be cleaning house .. it will actually be Lee & Shukaku, since it is not as if Gaara truly does anything .. or can.
On a final note, acquired / trained skill is much different from innate talent. Such as your signature states the difference on [current] strength and potential. On skill alone, Kimimaro could not breach the surface of Lee's defenses to harm him. Thus, what results? The usage of a bloodline limit. Hell, who needs to work when you're born with millions upon millions of dollars? Feel me? Thank ye'. Bamf ..
Ninja vanish!
well 211/212 made it obvious that Kimimaro and Lee actually arent on the same level
Kimimaro from what we've seen was just playing around with Naruto and Lee, once he activated his morphic bones it was all over for Lee.
did i forget to mention that Kimimaro hasnt activated level 2 yet either?
insomniac has this one. my response to strider's post is the one above.
maybe another day strider.
Level two? .. I do not even think he's activated the first level. All of this monstrous nonsense he is doing now is all inclusive with the package of his bloodline inheritance. But, I agreed with someone earlier on that point .. Kimimaro and Lee are not on equal fighting grounds. And, as much as I love Lee .. it is true.
Ninja vanish ..
I'd have to agree with Strider on this one. Kimi did attack Lee several times which was met with swift and painful counter attacks. However, I also have to disagree with him about Kimimaro's current curse seal level. In actuality, not only does one of the pages show the curse seal spreading from the three marks into a full blown tattoo-style marking on his chest (right when he makes the first 'bone gauntlet' around his hand against Lee) but the translation for the narration at the end of that chapter was "The frightening blood line ability that requires an activated curse seal!!" or you know, possibly a slightly more accurate translation than that, so it's pretty safe to say by those two pieces of evidence that he has used the first level of the curse seal. Which does bring me back to the point that it looks like he has 2 levels, since the seal IS operating in the same manner as Sasuke's level 1 curse seal did (Increases power vastly, but apparently speed as well, since before the curse seal Kimi could hardly react to Lee's drunken rage, but now he was able to stop Lee's Otome Renge starter with like half a dozen bones, which would SERIOUSLY require some kind of speed overhaul, since it's been made obvious that having the first gate open is quite a boost to Lee) I guess that means Mut@t@ was wrong... if his new signature is to be believed, that would make it twice now. Interestingly enough, since he argued with me by saying that Kimi didn't have a second curse seal form (I might have been reading too much into his argument, however), that would make him wrong yet again if Kimi does have a level 2. I wonder if he'll have to edit his signature again..
To be a very very VERY late responder, Mut@t@, I assumed that Kimimaro couldn't emit chakra from every chakra hole in his body, because that's been described as an ability completely unique to the most elite of the Hyuuga clan. And since that was the *ONLY WAY* that Neji (equally a close combat freak, just as Kimi has been appearing to be, although we haven't seen any Ninjutsu from Kimi yet) was able to even DETECT Kidoumaru's arrow before it hit him, let alone survive it (The wind displacement bent the oak trees, my friend. That's some hefty punch that thing is packing there. You're not stopping it. At all. Deflecting maybe, but that would require detecting it in the first place, and Neji is FASTER than rock lee without the weights, so saying Kimi is faster would still be quite a leap of faith.) I was saying that a similar situation would have been VERY hard for Kimimaro to survive without a level 2 seal. Even now at level 1, Kimimaro has shown great abilities in close combat, but nothing that would save him from such a powerful and fast and accurate blow. At any rate, we know that Kimi's seal is from orochimaru, as it's the same type of three pronged mark that everyone else has, and spreads out across the body when activated in the same way (although each person's pattern is quite unique) and gives a similar status boost, and because Kabuto said it was. That said, if Kimimaro was so close to dying, it stands to reason that he would have a level 2 curse seal, as coming close to death is the only requirement we are aware of for the level 2 curse seal, and that's all sasuke appeared to go through to obtain it. So, that's a VERY late articulation on why I believe Kimi has a level 2 curse seal, and I'm done living in the past now. In the current situation, I'd find it hard to believe a match with Rock Lee *AND* Gaara against Kimi would be remotely exciting if Kimi didn't possess a level 2 seal as well. After all, Kimi is frightening, but it's hard to believe he's THAT frightening in level 1 form.
That all being said, I should note that I always feel compelled to respond to Mut@t@'s criticisms. Maybe he and I don't 'jive' well for lack of a better term.
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