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    RE: WHY IS LEE ON PAR WITH Kimmimaro??

    I don't think they've been gone for months at all, in fact, I believe they've been gone less than a full day. There's been nothing to show any kind of time passing, and the mission of the four Sound Nin was so time sensitive that it seems to have needed to be accomplished that quickly. I supppose we'll all have to wait and see.

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    Originally posted by: Legendary Nin
    Never questions the fuzzy brows.We don't know what Lee gained during his off-time.He was going in for surgery when the genin five left to get Sasuke.They've been gone for what seems a couple of months,so that gives Lee plenty of time to recover and fight.Remember Lee was in the hands of Tsunade,so obviously things were going to go over well.
    Months? I don't think its been a day yet. And keep in mind Lee has to do the same traveling they do, so the difference in time isn't THAT much deviating from their fighting time. Even if Lee is faster it's not a big difference.

    Plus, Lee's been walking around with a crutch and bad back for a little while. You'd think if anything he has to be weaker, especially comparing him to the 5 who left who've been gathering new techniques.

    Oh well, just accept that there's not a lot of reality in fiction and enjoy it for what it is.

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    how i took it was they were only gone for like 1-2 days since lee had he operation and could start training again tomarrow.

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    RE: WHY IS LEE ON PAR WITH Kimmimaro??

    the sound four said that only half a day passed since thier mission began, and that it's now dusk time, so we can say that.

    A: it's somewhere around 6-7 PM, the sound four started thier count since they started moving with Sasuke.
    or (the more logical option)
    B: it's somewhere around 5-6 AM, the sun is just begining to shine now (therefore it's dusk) and the sound four started the count since they got to Sasuke, but it means that the surgety took less than two hours to perform (i've waitied in line to the doctor longer than that!), since the two chunins found Sakura at 4am..

    but if you want a real time paradox, check this:
    at the chapter when Sasuke talks to the sound four, there's a full moon, but when he leavs with them, there's only a cresent moon...

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    if lee wins, it'll be so stupid. he just came out of surgery and he's still taking medicine. i really wish lee didn't show up to rescue naruto.
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    Naruto was fighting Kimimaro at the fullest Kyuubi hes been so far, using ALL his strength - more then when he fought Gaara.
    he did not even touch Kimimaro.
    Lee is far weaker then Gaaras demon form and yet hes a match for Kimimaro? what the hell

  7. #27

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    well naruto only sent his clones to fight kimi from what i got to test his strength and maybe tire him out a bit. seeing how not even one of this clones could land a single blow to kimi did make naruto seem a bit concerned. can you blame him in a matter of minutes kimi took out a few hundred clones and didnt even break out a sweat. just like kimi lee isnt 100% and is in worst condition then lee is in. i didnt see anyone complain about kimi showing up as fast as he did but people said lee caught up to fast. the only thing i can think of is that even tho in kyubi state naruto's speed increases but kimi must still be faster then kyubi-naruto. the only gennins with the speed to fight him would be neji but he is out, sasuke who just laughed and ran off and finially lee. i think there couldnt be a better match up. the one with the stronger will in this fight will be the winner

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    RE: WHY IS LEE ON PAR WITH Kimmimaro??

    i figured it out, lee is a saiya-jin, duh. he becomes stronger after he recovers from every fight. cmon, now...figure it out people.
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  9. #29

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    Neji isnt as fast as Naruto in Kyuubi, we've seen that.
    as for clones to 'test' him, he wanted him dead so he could save Sasuke.
    he wasnt testing him

    and you act like his clones are weak? they're his total power divided into each clone so each clone is as powerful as the next and all together they're equal to narutos strength.

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    Rock Paper Scissors, Rock > Scissors, Scissors > Paper. Just because Scissors > Paper, and Rock > Scissors does that mean Rock > Paper? No it doesn't. Just because Naruto can't defeat Kimimaro, Lee has a whole different fighting style, so he may be able to win. Kimimaro isn't as strong as you think, and he's definately not just under the legendary 3, he's most likely at the level of a chuunin.

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    RE: WHY IS LEE ON PAR WITH Kimmimaro??

    kimimaro isn't as strong as kabuto but he has to be freaking super strong. i mean, he was orochimaru's first choice and that's before sasuke, the super genius from the crazy clan...this year's the number one rookie. not possible that kimimaro can lose to lee. it'd just be stupid if kimimaro got beat up by lee.
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  12. #32

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    Well -- as we can see, Orochimaru doesn't choose bodies based on their current abilities. He gets bodies who have the most potential in the future. So that doesn't neccessarily mean that Kimimaro is extremely strong at all right now.

    He doesn't have to be super strong. He'd probably draw with Sasuke at the moment.

    Also: I don't know where you got that Naruto was using the most Kyuubi power we've seen him use, Insomniac. Naruto could still keep Kyuubi's power in check, besides the change in physical appearance, it doesn't seem so much different than when he used the Kyuubi power against Neji. I'd still say that he used more power in his fight against Haku.

    And yes, Naruto didn't go at Kimimaro with all his strength. If he'd done that, he'd be at a loss if he messed up at any point. It's obviously safer to go in with weaker attacks at the beginning. I don't neccessarily think Naruto was testing Kimimaro's power - but I think it's very likely that Naruto was just trying to get out of the battle as healthy as he could.

    He couldn't exactly afford to win the battle just barely, like everyone else had done, since he'd still have to bring Sasuke back and everything. I think he was being smart and seeing if he could just win be outnumbering Kimimaro.

  13. #33

    WHY IS LEE ON PAR WITH Kimmimaro??

    Originally posted by: lasaire
    First of all, the translation isn't even out yet!! Wait until it's translated, I'm sure there will be at least some explanation as to Lee's appearance there!

    Secondly, there's no evidence that Lee is "on par" with Kimimaro at all; the fight has barely begun and Kimimaro was startled by Lee's appearance, enough to lower his defence level. Wait a few more rounds and then discuss this.
    i agree, wait fro the translation then hop to conclusions. but i cant wait till they actually fight. it'll be interesting to say the least. and as for teh slug and snake pics...... i think that naryto and gang will be the next " legendary 3" from the leaf. i really dont see how sakura is going to get any better though. maybe the 5th will teach her medical jutsus...........


    as for kimi's strength lvl..... well he really hasnt showed his true power yet. all he did so far was remove a bone and turn it into a sword(freaky), and do some funky swordplay and destroy lotsa clones. maybe he'll pull some gaara type transformation outta his butt. who knows. i think lee is stronger physically though. that doesnt mean he'll win, just that he's stronger and quite possibly faster. kimi has the seal to fall on if stuff gets outta hand though. however i kinda equate opening gates as the same as using cursed seal. so whatever. im tired and typing incoherently. take my opinions for what they're worth(most likely not a pimple on anyone's......you know). however i would like to see replies to my thoughts. not nastygrams though. just differing views or if you agree show support of my theories.

  14. #34

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    for all those ppl who said that kimimaro is chuunin lvl, or not beyond the jounin lvl, they are extremely wrong. the thing is, even the tayuya who is jounin lvl, is afraid of kimimaro. meaning that he obviously he mucccccch better than the 4 gate keepers of sound... and dont forget, the 4 sound guyz totally whupped some leaf JouNiN so.. how can u say kimimaro is below jounin lvl?

    the next thing abt rock lee is that.. he drank alcohol; cos he mistake it for his medicine. and when he drinks alcohol he goes into a frenzy, in such a form, even gai is afraid of him.

    last thing, regarding the on par thing, noticed everyone SUDDENLY had some new special ultimate moves or something, and manages to beat the jounins? thats because this is a MANGA it doesnt neccessarily have to make 100% sense, of course seeing the main characters, suddenly have nice skillz, and whupping ultra strong people, this would make the manga much nicer to read, thats why the author did that.

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    um...I really dont understand the people who keep comparing this to the gaara fight.
    Like someone above said, `rock - paper - scissor`. Gaara`s strength is an absolute defence: rock lee`s strength is physical based attacks, go figure. An example is when Sasuke tried to hit Gaara`s sheild with taijutsu and ended up with broken knuckles. He had to resort to NINJUTSU (hence rock/paper/scissor). The Rock Lee versus Kimimaro fight is completely different to the Gaara one.

  16. #36

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    yes taijutsu vs taijutsu but you have to remember that kimimaru also has cursed lvl 2 seal and well reall all lee has is his super great taijutsu kimi can use nin and prolly gen jutsu

    but all in all i think rock lee will lose and be back where he started "in the hospital" just my opinion im not a huge lee fan but he is a great character and should win i just don't think he can do it

  17. #37

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    Originally posted by: SilentDevil
    for all those ppl who said that kimimaro is chuunin lvl, or not beyond the jounin lvl, they are extremely wrong. the thing is, even the tayuya who is jounin lvl, is afraid of kimimaro. meaning that he obviously he mucccccch better than the 4 gate keepers of sound... and dont forget, the 4 sound guyz totally whupped some leaf JouNiN so.. how can u say kimimaro is below jounin lvl?

    the next thing abt rock lee is that.. he drank alcohol; cos he mistake it for his medicine. and when he drinks alcohol he goes into a frenzy, in such a form, even gai is afraid of him.

    last thing, regarding the on par thing, noticed everyone SUDDENLY had some new special ultimate moves or something, and manages to beat the jounins? thats because this is a MANGA it doesnt neccessarily have to make 100% sense, of course seeing the main characters, suddenly have nice skillz, and whupping ultra strong people, this would make the manga much nicer to read, thats why the author did that.
    The 4 Sound Nin's needed to use Level 2 Curse Seal to beat 2 Leaf Jounins. Even then, they were worn out. Now, if you believe this makes them on "par" with Jounin's, you need a head check. Kimimaro is strong...for his age. If he is on par with his seal to Sasuke's curse seal, obviously, they are both strong. However, this does not make him on par with a Jounin either, per se. He needs a boost to make it to that level. Think of it like this. Lee is, in my opinion, stronger than most Jounin's when he opens all 5 gates. Does this make him Jounin level? No.

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    WHY IS LEE ON PAR WITH Kimmimaro??

    I figure Lee will beat on or fight on par with Kimi until he goes into Level 2, who will then beat on Lee, but his body will go out before he kills him. It's a good reason to make him out to be ill storywise.

    All we need is for Lee to shove some weed in his mouth and it'll be the stoner vs. the boner.

    There's a battle of epic proportions for ya.

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    RE: WHY IS LEE ON PAR WITH Kimmimaro??

    i don't understand why people still just assume that kimimaro has the same curse seal as sasuke and the sound 4 and kimimaro can go to lvl 2. THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME CURSE SEAL.
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    RE: WHY IS LEE ON PAR WITH Kimmimaro??

    no they don't sasuke has something like a heaven seal and kimimaru has something like a gaiea seal

    who knows what the others seals are i think each seal is unique or its a different seal for differant people

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