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    Ninja Ranks

    ...that's a mouthful to decipher... =P Let me take a crack at graphically representing it, and you tell me if I got it right. I'll skip the Japanese, since anyone who wants to "fix" the translation can just refer to your post. What do the blocks and arrows mean? I'm assuming that when you say "block" you mean that the group named is inside a block, and when you say "arrow" the group named is inside an large triangle/arrow? From first glance, this looks like the organizational hierarchy of the entire village (flow of power/responsibility), not necessarily the hierarchy of the different ninja that exist... But like you said, any information is better than no information. Here we go:



    Organization Map
    The management of the Ninja Academy rests on the shoulders of those picked for that task by the Hokage, the head of the village.

    <----(LEFT & DOWN)---(RIGHT & DOWN)---->
    .............................|^|.................. ............
    ........................"Hokage".................. .........(circle atop pyramid)
    _________________O___________________

    "Konoha Ninja [Shinobi] Army Corps" - ???Chuunin/ANBU??? (within large pyramid)
    ________________/_\___________________
    _______________/___\__________________

    "Graduation/Certification" - ?Genin? (arrow)
    _________________/\__________________

    "Ninja Academy Students" - Students (block)
    _________________[]__________________

    "Volunteering/School entrance" - Entering Students (arrow)
    _________________/\___________________

    "Those who aspire to be Ninjas" - Non-Students (block encompassing all but KONOHA VILLAGE)
    _________________[]___________________

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    KONOHA VILLAGE INHABITANTS (Non-ninja, completely separate from all other boxes)
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------



    From the top, where it says "Hokage," there are two arrows leading out and down. The one to the left is as follows:
    .............................<======<======& lt; (Hokage)
    .............................V.................... ....
    .............................V.................... ....
    "Selection/Nomination" (downward arrow)
    In order to progress, you must be nominated by your immediate superior? Like when the "Rookie Nine" had to be nominated by their Special Jounin instructors in order to take the Chuunin test?
    -----------------------V-----------------------

    "Primarily Chuunin/Occasionally Jounin" (block)
    Either this implies that you have to be nominated to become Jounin, just like you had to be nominated to become Chuunin, or I'm missing something... Maybe Jounin are "Selected," while Chuunin are "Nominated"? *sigh*
    -----------------------[]-----------------------

    "Management/Education" (arrow)
    Chuunin and Jounin can choose or are chosen to be teachers/administrators at the Academy, hence the arrow from this box leading back into the central "Ninja Academy Students" block?
    -----------------------V------------------------

    "Giving Up" (arrow)




    The arrow that leads out and down from "Hokage" to the right is as follows:

    (Hokage)>======>======>
    .............................................V.... ......................................
    .............................................V.... ......................................
    "Unification/Management" (Arrow leading directly back to central "Ninja Academy Students" block)
    No idea what this means...ninja bureaucrat? Hehehe... More likely these are the people handpicked by the Hokage to run the Academy. Kinda like the Superintendent and the Principle?






    OK, I hope that made sense... Anything wrong? Anyone care to take a crack at it?


    [Edit Add: Made the corrections jonny-mt pointed out. Made some graphical changes. Other than that, everything is the same.]


    I wouldn't mind seeing a scan of the chart, though. =P

  2. #2

    RE: Ninja Ranks

    Originally posted by: Inquisitor77
    ...that's a mouthful to decipher... =P Let me take a crack at graphically representing it, and you tell me if I got it right. I'll skip the Japanese, since anyone who wants to "fix" the translation can just refer to your post. What do the blocks and arrows mean? I'm assuming that when you say "block" you mean that the group named is inside a block, and when you say "arrow" the group named is inside an large triangle/arrow? From first glance, this looks like the organizational hierarchy of the entire village (flow of power/responsibility), not necessarily the hierarchy of the different ninja that exist... But like you said, any information is better than no information. Here we go:



    Organization Map
    The management of the Ninja Academy rests on the shoulders of those picked for that task by the Hokage, the head of the village.

    <----(LEFT & DOWN)--
    ..............................|
    ........................"Hokage".................. .........(circle atop pyramid)
    _________________O___________________

    "Konoha Ninja [Shinobi] Army Corps" - ???Chuunin/ANBU??? (within large pyramid)
    ________________/_\___________________
    _______________/___\__________________

    "Graduation/Certification" - ?Genin? (arrow)
    _________________/\__________________

    "Ninja Academy Students" - Students (block)
    _________________[]__________________

    "Volunteering/School entrance" - Entering Students (arrow)
    _________________/\___________________

    "Those who aspire to be Ninjas" - Non-Students (block)
    _________________[]___________________

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    KONOHA VILLAGE INHABITANTS (Non-ninja, completely separate from all other boxes)
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    From the top, where it says "Hokage," there are two arrows leading out and down. The one to the left is as follows:

    "Selection/Nomination" (downward arrow)
    In order to progress, you must be nominated by your immediate superior? Like when the "Rookie Nine" had to be nominated by their Special Jounin instructors in order to take the Chuunin test?
    -----------------------V-----------------------

    "Important Chuunin/Special Jounin" (block)
    Either this implies that you have to be nominated to become Jounin, just like you had to be nominated to become Chuunin, or I'm missing something... Maybe Jounin are "Selected," while Chuunin are "Nominated"? *sigh*
    -----------------------[]-----------------------

    "Management/Education" (?block?)
    Chuunin and Jounin can choose or are chosen to be teachers/administrators at the Academy, hence the arrow from this box leading back into the central "Ninja Academy Students" block?
    -----------------------?------------------------

    "Giving Up" (?block?)
    Is there supposed to be a split between "Management/Education" and this box, flowing from "Important Chuunin/Special Jounin"? Or does it go straight down from "Management/Education" to "Giving Up"? Either way, this choice seems to be a dead end in terms of ninja career, hehe.




    The arrow that leads out and down from "Hokage" to the right is as follows:

    "Unification/Management" (Arrow leading directly back to central "Ninja Academy Students" block)
    No idea what this means...ninja bureaucrat? Hehehe... More likely these are the people handpicked by the Hokage to run the Academy. Kinda like the Superintendent and the Principle?






    OK, I hope that made sense... Anything wrong? Anyone care to take a crack at it?
    Your graphical representation was pretty much right on! The only thing I see that needs correcting is that "those who aspire to be ninjas" is actually a block in a larger field, the outside of which is marked "Konoha Inhabitants"...it's below a dotted line which apparently seperates Ninja from citizen. If I was smart (which I'm not), I would have brought the guide with me and scanned in the page so you could see it....

    I do, however, have a correction to make. I mistranslated 'omo ni' as 'important', which is the meaning of the word 'omo'...but when combined with the 'ni' particle, the meaning changes to "mainly, or primarily". So 'omo ni chuunin/tokubetsu jounin' is better translated as "primarily Chuunin, occasionally Jounin". 'tokubetsu' does mean special, but in this case it is not describing the Jounin because there is no 'na' particle after the word. I believe this path is concerned with the selection of teachers for the Academy; we see during Shikamaru's teacher's (whose name I forget) spiel about him that he taught at the Academy, too, but we also know that the students are primarily taught by Chuunins.

    Gomen. I've gone back and updated my post.

    And 'Management and Education' as well as 'Giving Up' are (if I remember right) supposed to both be arrows. The only split in the paths is right at the top from Hokage; everything else falls in a straight line.

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    RE: Ninja Ranks

    Edited my post. =)

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