Gaara Owns Sasuke pt II

**Vagabond** · Fri, 03-12-2004, 12:35 PM

Yeah hotsuma that was a stupid comment. (and you criticize itachi for making stupid posts. -_- )
Its obvious that at this point in the anime Naruto would kill sasuke. Why do i say that? Maybe because Naruto beat (or fought equally) with gaara whereas sasuke got his ass handed to him. Remember Naruto can summon gamabunta.

And please stop this shit about naruto having an unfair advantage because of the kyuubi's chakra. I could reverse it completely and say that Sasuke would be nothing without his sharingan or his uchiha blood. Not everyone in the Naruto world is eqaul. Get over it.

Now maybe if you said sasuke would kill naruto at this point in the manga. Maybe then i would agree with you. Once he gets out of that damn coffin he'll be fucking unstoppable.

**ESM** · Fri, 03-12-2004, 04:49 PM

Originally posted by: VagabondLBD
Yeah hotsuma that was a stupid comment. (and you criticize itachi for making stupid posts. -_- )
Its obvious that at this point in the anime Naruto would kill sasuke. Why do i say that? Maybe because Naruto beat (or fought equally) with gaara whereas sasuke got his ass handed to him. Remember Naruto can summon gamabunta.

And please stop this shit about naruto having an unfair advantage because of the kyuubi's chakra. I could reverse it completely and say that Sasuke would be nothing without his sharingan or his uchiha blood. Not everyone in the Naruto world is eqaul. Get over it.

Now maybe if you said sasuke would kill naruto at this point in the manga. Maybe then i would agree with you. Once he gets out of that damn coffin he'll be fucking unstoppable.

Nah, you're wrong. Naruto was losing quite badly to Gaara, and it wasn't until Naruto managed to summon Gamabunta that he actually was able to do much of anything. As for Sasuke, he pretty much had Gaara dead to rights, however, Temari and Kankuro interfered during the Chuunin exam and whisked Gaara away after Sasuke had disabled Gaara.

So Gaara would have lost to Sasuke.

However, it's true that Sasuke would lose to Naruto if he summoned Gamabunta, however that is terribly unlikely since he only seems to be able to summon the great creature out of luck, and when he someone precious too him is getting hurt.

**Haku no Fuyu** · Fri, 03-12-2004, 05:51 PM

HEY! I WEAR THAT "STUPID ORANGE JACKET" ALL THE TIME!!! *pouts*

**Mut** · Fri, 03-12-2004, 08:08 PM

if naruto was not the main character and he went against someone like itachi or orochimaru. naruto would be narutarded for the rest of his life. he'd get messed up. only reason why he wins fights is because he is the main character. when you guys make versus comparisons, throw out the fact that one is a more significant character than the other. put both of them on equal grounds.

**winnydapoo** · Fri, 03-12-2004, 08:52 PM

Originally posted by: dazzz
if naruto was not the main character and he went against someone like itachi or orochimaru. naruto would be narutarded for the rest of his life. he'd get messed up. only reason why he wins fights is because he is the main character. when you guys make versus comparisons, throw out the fact that one is a more significant character than the other. put both of them on equal grounds.

Why do that? its not the case. He is the main character, he does have kyuubi and he does have gamabunta. Might as well take away everybody's characteristics then and compare stick figures. Anyways, regardless of him being the main character, kyuubi and gamabunta are enough.

**Mut** · Fri, 03-12-2004, 09:17 PM

taking away the fact that naruto is a main character is way different than taking away charcter's abilities.

**ComeComeParadise** · Fri, 03-12-2004, 09:41 PM

Well, Naruto is the main character for a reason....

He is not strong because he is the main character, he is the main character because he is strong.

**winnydapoo** · Fri, 03-12-2004, 10:27 PM

Originally posted by: dazzz
taking away the fact that naruto is a main character is way different than taking away charcter's abilities.

I know, I said even after ignoring the fact he is the main character, sasuke still can't kill him because kyuubi and gamabunta are more than enough. Actually even kyuubi is enough.

**Legendary Nin** · Fri, 03-12-2004, 11:44 PM

You must remember the Gaara vs Naruto fight was a tie.As for using spoiler tags in open discussion,there are plenty of warnings in the forum description and the pinned thread.If someone stumbles in here,we'll then you might as well read the manga and get it over with.

**Gods_Son** · Sat, 03-13-2004, 01:22 AM

yeah the fight was definately a tie, but I don't really like how Naruto gets to pull more and more Kyubi chakra out of his ass whenever he's losing. They're putting him on too much of a winning streak now, if Sasuke was main character he'd probably have a fully developed sharingan by now

**Hotsuma** · Sat, 03-13-2004, 02:27 AM

Originally posted by: VagabondLBD
Yeah hotsuma that was a stupid comment. (and you criticize itachi for making stupid posts. -_- )
Its obvious that at this point in the anime Naruto would kill sasuke. Why do i say that? Maybe because Naruto beat (or fought equally) with gaara whereas sasuke got his ass handed to him. Remember Naruto can summon gamabunta.

And please stop this shit about naruto having an unfair advantage because of the kyuubi's chakra. I could reverse it completely and say that Sasuke would be nothing without his sharingan or his uchiha blood. Not everyone in the Naruto world is eqaul. Get over it.

Now maybe if you said sasuke would kill naruto at this point in the manga. Maybe then i would agree with you. Once he gets out of that damn coffin he'll be fucking unstoppable.

How exactly is that a stupid comment? I provided a legimiate reasoning behind what I said. It's not my problem if people hate Sasuke so much they they ride him off without even giving him a shot at anything. Sasuke was already exhausted from his continuous high speed taijutsu, using Chidori, AND pursuing Gaara, (who was asleep) before this (meaning, in the anime) fight began. He was also fighting against, oh I don't know, a fuckin beast? Naruto, OTOH, used his own, obviously larger chakra storage/stamina, thousands upon thousands of bunshins, Gamabunta, Gamabunta transformed into a fox, Kyuubi chakra [thousand years of pain] and was only able to come up with a stalemate. Did I mentioned, Gaara was also considerably injured because of 3 Chidori's from Sasuke? Yeah. To say Sasuke got his ass handed back to him, is pretty damn exagerated.

Naruto can summon Gama Bunta? Uuh Right. How many times has he been able to summon him, in his uncounted attempts to summon an average frong? Don't give me that "He can summon that Gama Bunta" crap, because it's pretty damn obvious, he can't summon it on the master level like Jiraiya/the Fourth can. And, even if he can, what are the chances of Gama Bunta even listening to a kid? You gotta remember, Gama Bunta, is a high-level summon, and obviously doesn't like to be disturbed, unless absolutely necassary. Even when Gaara was a badger form, he was still griping about it, and him and Naruto bickered at each other. What the heck makes you think, he'll listen to Naruto, just for the sake of killing a lowly boy? If you want to argue with me, don't give me such bullshit one-sided arguments like "he can summon Gama Bunta."

Naruto sucks without Kyuubi. He would've lost to Neji, Haku and Gaara, if he didn't have that. Sasuke is strong, even without the Sharingan. In short, if it weren't for the main character factor, Naruto is considerably weaker than Sasuke.

At this point in the anime, even Naruto gets jealous over how much Sasuke has progressed (evidently more so than himself) since he last saw him.

Winnydapoo and Meshi. I am talking about the anime, at this point. Not the manga, I already know of Rasengan being better. But, this is discussing the anime. And, another thing. If Naruto dies, there's nothing Kyuubi can do. He's not some kind of guardian angel that protects him from death,all the time. If I were to slit Naruto's throat.. he'd die.

**Vagabond** · Sat, 03-13-2004, 08:53 AM

Alright hotsuma you're right and im wrong. I don't really give a shit about this anymore. We're fighting over something stupid.

**Hotsuma** · Sat, 03-13-2004, 02:37 PM

Glad you finally see the truth, Vagabond.

**Neji-Aniki-sama** · Thu, 03-25-2004, 06:48 AM

Sasuke-chan is not gay. He's a mysogynist, which is something totally different. The fact that he's obsessed with his bro, however, makes one wonder...
As a matter of fact, all this Oro chasing Saske, Itachi chasing Naruto and so on makes the whole story very fishy, in what gayness is concerned. Not that there's anything wrong with that. And I'd say Gai and Rocky Lee's relationship is platonic, if you're familiar with Ancient Greece ways of teaching...
As for Naruto, he has the Rasengan, which has nothing to do with the Kyuubi. He worked for it on his own. As for Gama-bunta, for now, Naruto can't drink sake, so that might contribute for the frog's difficult behavior towards Naruto. I hope that the drinking age in the Fire country is not 21, otherwise, the series will drag on forever...

**Neji-Aniki-sama** · Thu, 03-25-2004, 07:04 AM

HEY! I WEAR THAT "STUPID ORANGE JACKET" ALL THE TIME!!! *pouts*

Huh... now I understand why, when Inuyasha walks in the streets of Tokyo in his red outfit, nobody notices him...

**Xceleration** · Fri, 03-26-2004, 07:12 PM

Originally posted by: Hotsuma
At this point, Sasuke could kill Naruto. (This point being, the Chuunin arc) He's faster than Naruto, smarter than Naruto, adapts better than Naruto (Not just because of the Sharingan either), and is more level-headed than Naruto.

Plus, he doesn't wear that stupid-ass looking Orange jacket, rely on somebody else's chakra (Kyuubi), doesn't use one jutsu over and over again and actually has form in his fights.

I still don't like how arrogant he is though. Or, how he took Lee's speed. That was crap. Uchiha or not, Kishimoto messed that up, big time. I like Naruto far more than Sasuke (at this point), but Sasuke isn't "gay" or a "puss" like some of you people are putting it off as.

Sasuke actually does rely on somebody else's power(cursed seal), Orochimaru's. He doesn't realize that he needs to work hard and train to become strong, instead he seeks shortcuts. I don't believe that Sasuke could easily kill Naruto at this point, as Naruto isn't as weak as you think. About the Naruto vs Gaara fight, Gaara fully transformed into Shakuku when fighting Naruto, which was obviously alot stronger then what he used to fight Sasuke, so just because Naruto only stalemated, its still alot better than Sasuke can do even now in the manga. Other than that I agree with you completely.

**Haku no Fuyu** · Fri, 03-26-2004, 07:36 PM

Yeah, people in tokyo who dress weird can go pretty unseen. My cousin Ryoko has ALOT of purple hair, and insists on wearing a neon green jacket when we go out...

On topic now, the legal age for drinking in Japan is 20. Though if you look older, you wont be carded. It doesn't happen that often. So, Naruto COULD drink, if he made himself look older with the Henge no jutsu.

**Neji-Aniki-sama** · Fri, 03-26-2004, 08:39 PM

Did you see Gai taking Lee out for a drink? Konoha is definitly not in Japan...
I would guess that Naruto is almost there when it comes the legal age considering that...
Sorry to go off topic, but just a quick question, since we're talking about limits...what's the age limit for calling a guy -kun?

Sasuke actually does rely on somebody else's power(cursed seal), Orochimaru's. He doesn't realize that he needs to work hard and train to become strong, instead he seeks shortcuts.

You have an excelent point, there, X. Sasuke, really doesn't get that and not even what being a ninja is about. Naruto worked really hard to tame the Kyuubi. Going deep down and facing him wasn't exactly an easy task, not to mention spending the day on Gama-bunta's back. He does deserve *all* the Kyuubi chacra he got.

**Haku no Fuyu** · Sat, 03-27-2004, 12:06 AM

I'm 20 and my friends still call me Yu-kun...
Kun and chan are really reserved for children, and adults who know each other closely.

**SaSuKeRuLeS** · Sat, 03-27-2004, 12:44 AM

Originally posted by: itachi_
Sasuke is too weak, he's also a queer.

hey hey hey! everyone has a right to their own opinion but cut the guy some slack its not like sasuke has a demon inside of him!!! If garra didnt have a demon he would have been beaten by Lee so shut your mouth!!!

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