i agree, they are weak now, but the fact that it took 2 countries to do any damage to them tells me they were really strong before any of it took place.
i agree, they are weak now, but the fact that it took 2 countries to do any damage to them tells me they were really strong before any of it took place.
...they sent a bunch of gennin with a rookie chuunin leader to get back an extremely valuable leaf member that is part of an extinct clan ... [/quote]
that is my exact point, the villiage is cranking out overpowered characters. The leaf villiage sent out a bunch of kids who should not be albe to hang with these sounds elite (more like e-lame) four. How is it that they can totally own 2 jounins but get slapped around by the kids. If the claim is that it was 4 v 2, that was disproven when shikmaro proves that the guys have no team work... Hence, leaf is overpowered. Not to mention the fact that leaf cranked out 3 hokage worthy ninja out of one generation...
Hidden Leaf is, imo, going through a age of "genius ninjas" where most of the new ninjas are for whatever reason, stronger than any other generation before them.
Sound village, is made up of rejected losers who think they can become powerful by listening to a evil guy who's a bastard.
I don't think the Leaf is overpowerd. IF you think about it the sound is a new village and the sand doesn't have many nins since what the Lord of the Wind country did.
Hidden sand had their funding cut!, and hidden sound is a relatively weak and new villlage, therefore leaf is not overpower.
And about the 4 on 2, yeah sound 4 appears to have weak teamwork, but it's still a 2:1 battle where as the leaf genin get to fight 1 on 1, with the aid of a soldier pill against a tired oppenent. Imho, I do think the leaf genin are doing a little bit too well, but not so well as to make it absolutely unbelievable.
i dont' think they are doing too well, neji was pretty evenly matched, kiba is running and choji basically committed suicide to kill the other guy.I do think the leaf genin are doing a little bit too well, but not so well as to make it absolutely unbelievable.
i kinda like the way the sound 4 vs the genin played out, but my opinion could change on how shika deals with tayuya and naruto deals with kimi in the upcomming chapters. the only reason konoha may seem overpowered like said before is because the story focuses in on them more then anyone else. each character has his/her own strong/weak points. Now if they sent hinata in there and she murdered one of the sound 4 then i'd say things were getting a little weird :S
yeah i also thought about that...how they make leaf genins like so powerful!!! im like grrrrr....but oh well, i like it still cause those are the main characters anyway, eh?
yeah but the thing is they aren't THAT powerful.
If you think about it all ninja's of all diffrent countries are crazy powerful
Zabuza slaughtered a hundred or so ninja's
Itachi was leader of ANBU at 13 or w/e
There was always powerfull people around at all times, even in the times of the 1st and second, we only think that the village is overpowered because its the only thing the anime/manga zero's in on
Well, the leaf has Udon, so that is a bit too much for any other village to counter!
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jesus kid get real, its ppl like u that everyone is bitching about, would you please try to NOT bring up your pathetic little fetish in every thread?Well, the leaf has Udon, so that is a bit too much for any other village to counter!
there are 2 geniuses right now neji and sasuke and sasuke have left the village. and the genins isnt that strong the sound 4 is at chuunin level you know at most low jounin when going to curse seal 2. they just seem strong because the fights are made to look incredible. its always that way. ill say it again the sound 4 is chuunin level the only thing that makes them strong is their curse seal. they are the "elite" just because sound dont have anyone stronger exept orochimaru and kabuto( take in concideration that kimimaro shouldnt be able to move.)Originally posted by: XwingRob
Hidden Leaf is, imo, going through a age of "genius ninjas" where most of the new ninjas are for whatever reason, stronger than any other generation before them.
Sound village, is made up of rejected losers who think they can become powerful by listening to a evil guy who's a bastard.
Garra was never touched by anyone is the sand village, and rock lee was able to do it. the sand village ninjas start training really early (think about gaara's flashback, they were six but they were already training), but no one was able to scratch him, probably including some high ranked Jounins...
so basically, everyone else sucks, and the leaf owns, somehow, even though it's really unreasonable..
The more people whine and cry about Udon, the more I'll post about him [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
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Hmm Leaf does seem to be the strongest village from what we've seen, just the combination of Hyuuga, Jiraiya (sometimes when he's around), Tsunade, Naruto (getting strong), Gai, etc ... but then again, who knows what else exists in Kishimoto's universe.
what village is kimimaro from? he's clan (if he belongs to one) has to be a uber strong.
His background really hasn't been told yet [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img] I hope chap 208 divulges some more info, so far Kimi is uber-boring .. he is like wallpaper paste, but seems pretty strong. Porcupine skills~! Maybe if we get some background on Kimi, he will become a little more interesting, I've never liked the typical anime characters which are totally expressionless and emotionless, they're just so flat. I much prefer the eccentric, unpredicable characters like Dr Jackal from Get Backers, or even Oro for that matter. Even Zabuza had personality.
Udon>Kimimaro hehehe [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
i hope that kimi unleashes his 3rd dance. The "tossing of the Salad" That way kimi can be fleshed out as not only a killing machine but a ravager of assholes. lol
I think the leaf is partly overpowered because it has a lot of bloodlines. (I posted about this in the bloodline topic, but it's best repeated).
Remember the portion when Zabuza was revealing the past of.... The ice guy?? (I can't remember his name). The Ice guy was from a bloodline as well. ANd I guess they hunted down and killed bloodlines, so maybe they all run and took haven in the Konoha village, which doesn't seem to be killing their bloodlines.
And.. We've yet to see other ninja clans. But I think it is stated somewhere during the Chunnin exam's that Konoha village IS the strongest clans among all clans. (I think).
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^^ LOL!!!i hope that kimi unleashes his 3rd dance. The "tossing of the Salad" That way kimi can be fleshed out as not only a killing machine but a ravager of assholes. lol
anyway..... leaf does have exceptional bloodlines the (uchiha and hyuuga) and your right we have yet to see what other kinds of bloodlimits there are out there. but i somehow doubt that they will compare to the sharingan and byakugan
that is my exact point, the villiage is cranking out overpowered characters. The leaf villiage sent out a bunch of kids who should not be albe to hang with these sounds elite (more like e-lame) four. How is it that they can totally own 2 jounins but get slapped around by the kids. If the claim is that it was 4 v 2, that was disproven when shikmaro proves that the guys have no team work... Hence, leaf is overpowered. Not to mention the fact that leaf cranked out 3 hokage worthy ninja out of one generation...[/quote]Originally posted by: angryinjun
...they sent a bunch of gennin with a rookie chuunin leader to get back an extremely valuable leaf member that is part of an extinct clan ...
You just contradicted yourself..... you say the 2 jounin got owned, and yet you still say that the leaf is overpowered. If they were overpowered like you say, then shouldn't the jounin have won the battle?
I think I know precisely what I mean
when I say it's a schpadoinkle day
Welcome to real life. Things aren't always balanced and yes, occasionally someone is better than someone else. Why any of you expect or want it to be different in Naruto is beyond me. I don't care that the Leaf is strong so long as the storyline is entertaining and plausible (with a nice deep background) strong characters can be produced to keep the fights good. The thread's topic "leaf villiage overpowered?" is easily answered: as far as we have seen yes, the Leaf has lots of power (lots of strong bloodlines - Hyuuga/Uchiha being most important, but let's not forget all of these families with specialized techniques), but more the more important question is "Does it matter if the Leaf is overpowered?" and I'd say no, it sure doesn't.
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