Summoning no jutsu!

[Assertn]

ive noticed that, and i have no idea why they did that.....but then again, i also thought that a tattoo or some sort of marking/text was needed in combination with the blood offering for the summon. Like how orochimaru used the tattoo, kakashi used the scroll, and jiraiya had a marking on his palm too

[The_Fourth]

I agreee with Itachi, its preety reasonable.

[lionheart1012000]

well here goes the opinion of a fool who knows nothing...
my guess is that for the summoning no jutsu to be completed there has to be some sort of resistance at the end of the hand or something, ie: 3rd touching the tree, kakashi touching the ground, and well...naruto got resistance from the air itself since he was falling down pretty fast...thats how i see it, might be wrong.

[PSJ]

thats sounds pretty good to me. but it can also have something to do with kyubi chakra. nobody knows since it hasnt been explained. but my guess is that it is done to do the series more intresting, i mean whats the fun in seeing hokage just bite his tumb and then Enma appears. its more fun to see him struggle to do it.

[Assertn]

i'd say naruto's excuse is that he just had SO much power that it was possible.....
now how did jiraiya EXPECT him to perform a summon without touching a surface im not sure......

[NoKKiE]

I think the touching the ground for a stable place to pop out is more reasonable, just imho though

[Mut]

let me end the confusion quickly.

---> it doesn't matter. <---

there.

[boomorman]

no clue... Maybe since Kakashi and Hokage don't have as much Chakra as the kyubi they need to pull it out of other objects??? Perhaps kakashi drew some chakra out of the enemies back for the summon and hokage pulled some out of the tree??? Not everyone has unlimted chakra like the nine tails... just a thought.

[PSJ]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (dazzz @ Feb 21 2004, 09:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> let me end the confusion quickly.

---&#62; it doesn&#39;t matter. &lt;---

there. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
so you are kishimoto&#39;s personal assitant or something? you dont know we dont know nobody knows exept kishimoto himself.

[Junichiro]

ok, i see whats going on, i think. so if those guys needed to tuck the ground and when naruto summend the tadpoles a sign came out where the seal is.

i think it depends on where it is happening, like the monkey would have just fallen to the ground from way up there otherwise, and the dog is too small to take a fall from K&#39;s shoulders

[loser_nin]

It probably does depend on the situation. Since there was no ground for Naruto to touch when he was falling to his death, you couldn&#39;t really say that to summon something you had to touch the ground.

But I don&#39;t think that the dog or Emna would have gotten hurt if summond from a slightly taller height. Emna, being a monkey, could have easily gripped on to something on the way down. Same thing for the dog (I forgot his name...XD). He could have bitten on to something. Like when he was summoned when Kakashi was going to use Chidori on Zabzura.

[kage_bunshin]

Hey did you guys realise this?

In episode 71 the third hokage HAD to touch the tree in order to do his summoning no jutsu.

Remember in ep 56 naruto summoned gamabunta while falling from the cliff, and in ep 69 ororchimaru just clapped his hands as his last move to summon the past hokages, and again in ep 69 kakashi summoned pakkun by touching the ground.

Personally i was thinking the dog summoning by kakashi, frog summoning by naruto, and the monkey summoning by the third hokage was pretty much the same jutsu(maybe some different seals depending on the animal) coz they have to use some of their own blood to summon the animal. Naruto managed to summon gamabunta without touching the ground. But the third Hokage had to summon by &#39;touching&#39; the tree. I find this summoning very inconsistent.

Well what do you guys think?

[itsgalf]

maybe because kyubi chakra enhanced the summoning jutsu and he was able to summon the frog without touching the ground. Or mabe Gamabunta needs to be summoned from up there or something, because if he gets summoned, he&#39;ll fill up the space where the summoner is and he would squish him.

[Mut]

you guys are thinking waaay to deeply into some stuff. just take it as it is.

it doesn&#39;t matter where one summons. he/she can do it in the air, in the water, in the fire, in dirt, in your face, etc.

[TeLeKiNeSiS]

its probably just better to see him stretching his arm struggling to summon...creates suspense. mmm if not then its just that things like pakkun and enma are small and need somewhere to land, as compared to gamabunta which is so big

[Uchiha-Itachi]

You pulled of a Einstein&#39;er with that question, kage-bunshin..

Well since a tree, rock, ground or whatever consists out of moleculs, same goes for air so as in he IS touching something (air) to summon the gamabunta..

Make&#39;s you wonder why hokage wanted to touch the damn tree for his summoning-jutsu..?

well maybe he felt like touching the tree or something? i dont give a rats ass abou that

[Nara Shikamaru]

third hokage didn&#39;t want the monkey king to fall.... now that i think about it pakkun falling to the ground would be funneh XP

[loser_nin]

Come on, dazzz, thinking is good for you&#33;

[Madox]

Yeah it&#39;s pretty obviouse IMO, Kakashi and the 3rd just wanted somthing stable for there summon to be on when they were created, so they didnt fall or trip or anything. Naruto had to summon his in mid-air beucase he had no choice, and Oro had a huge snake so it did&#39;nt really matter where he summoned it.

Also Gambunta and the Snake were huge compared to the monkey and dog, so it did&#39;nt really matter where the Snake and frog were summoned.

[Assertn]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (dazzz @ Feb 21 2004, 08:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> you guys are thinking waaay to deeply into some stuff. just take it as it is.

it doesn&#39;t matter where one summons. he/she can do it in the air, in the water, in the fire, in dirt, in your face, etc. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
people like to use replies like that alot in this forum......
if only they knew that the purpose of a discussion thread is to discuss......