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**Mut** · Sat, 02-21-2004, 02:31 AM

i swear. this is making me so mad. itachi can only be beaten by sasuke. if sasuke doesn't kill itachi but naruto does it, WHY THE HELL WAS SASUKE INTRODUCED IN THE FIRST PLACE??? no, itachi will only be killed by sasuke. that's it. there is no arguing this. it's going to happen cuz i said so. and if this does not happen, then it'll be a waste of a 2nd main character. and naruto will never become hokage, kakashi will fail to always protect his teammates, lee will not become a great shinobi like gai, and your mother will die. god damnit. NO!

**Winged Dancer** · Sat, 02-21-2004, 02:35 AM

Wow, I leave for a night and this transforms into (yet another) Itachi lovefest and discussion about who will own who and whatnot...

...and Inane 205 is out. That said, I'll just add that I'm with xtort on basically everything he said. Go rational thinking, go.

**xtort** · Sat, 02-21-2004, 02:55 AM

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (dazzz @ Feb 21 2004, 02:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> i swear. this is making me so mad. itachi can only be beaten by sasuke. if sasuke doesn't kill itachi but naruto does it, WHY THE HELL WAS SASUKE INTRODUCED IN THE FIRST PLACE??? no, itachi will only be killed by sasuke. that's it. there is no arguing this. it's going to happen cuz i said so. and if this does not happen, then it'll be a waste of a 2nd main character. and naruto will never become hokage, kakashi will fail to always protect his teammates, lee will not become a great shinobi like gai, and your mother will die. god damnit. NO!

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Dazzz, there are many prescription medicines out on the market that can help with that. This is a manga; you'll live.

All in all, think of all the story elements. One of the big ones is Naruto's ability to change people. Think of Kakashi's talk with him. I'm not saying it's a definite thing, just what I think's gonna happen.

He'll either be beaten by Naruto, and Sasuke will be a changed person already, or be beaten by Sasuke, and Sasuke will become a demon.

You guys (and gals) read what you want to read into everything. Keep an open mind and read what people are saying. Foreshadowing is not that hard to miss in this series. (Edit: should be not to hard to find. Dork.) Naruto being Itachi wouldn't at all negate the possibility for Naruto becoming Hokage. (See the Hokage's conversation with the genin students when he was looking up at the monument.) Like I said, it's not a definite thing, just my supposition.

-xtortout

**Mut** · Sat, 02-21-2004, 03:07 AM

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Insomniac @ Feb 20 2004, 11:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Then Naruto will never become hokage.
Sasukes reason for living is to kill Itachi, Narutos reason for living is become Hokage. If Naruto kills Itachi then Sasuke wont stop till he kills Naruto.

not only that but Itachi cannot be brought down by a non sharigan user when he uses Mange Sharigan, theres only two possible people who can use the sharigan to beat Itachi - Sasuke and Orochimaru in Sasukes body. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
just read that.

i don't think sasuke will kill itachi for revenge, but i think he will kill him cuz he has to. for example, itachi is after naruto, itachi buries naruto's face into the dirt and itachi is about to "kill" naruto cuz he is fed up with his stupidity. then sasuke goes "noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo", chidori to itachi's face. boom. over.

BUT IT WON'T BE ANYONE ELSE KILLING ITACHI EXCEPT SASUKE.

**Rock Lee** · Sat, 02-21-2004, 03:17 AM

We all know well and good that Udon kills itachi. He killed gaara after his little apology and secretly heads up the akatsuki. Itachi fails to lure and kill Sakura due to inept nature and is thusly killed because it took and bumbeling goofus like Gai 5 seconds to see through Itachi's scary "Mange" sharingan. You can do nothing but cower under the sheer awesomeness that is Udon's "Divide by Zero no Jutsu".

**Hotsuma** · Sat, 02-21-2004, 03:22 AM

Naruto has ABSOLUTELY NO RELEVENCE TO ITACHI. AT ALL. SERIOUSLY. EVERYBODY STOP GIVING NARUTO EVERY FUCKIN SPOTLIGHT, EVEN IF HE IS THE MAIN CHARACTER.

Does being the main character make him hog everybody elses dream? Heck. No. Itachi freakin KEEPS SASUKE ALIVE, FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF HIM DYING/DEFEATED AT <u>SASUKE'S</u> HAND.

It's not about keeping our views unopen to different possibilities. It's just that, the Sasuke and Itachi fight is amongst the most hyped would-be-duels, ever. Since the beginning of the series, all he can think about, is killing his brother. That's his sole motivation in life. To avenge his clan. Just like Naruto is to become Hokage.

Saying Naruto killing Itachi, is like saying Sasuke will become Hokage. Nobody wants that to happen, because it's swapped goals.

Udon freaking owned Itachi, btw.

**AlbinoFury** · Sat, 02-21-2004, 03:32 AM

dear god cant we have one topic where the topic after a few pages doesnt switch to a fucking itachi love fest, just go get a room already fanboys.

**gaara** · Sat, 02-21-2004, 03:41 AM

what are you talking about you obsessed ass fanboy, who cares about itachi..seriously like stay on topic

**Mut** · Sat, 02-21-2004, 03:48 AM

I GOTTA ADD COUPLE MORE THINGS:

1. IMO, I THINK TEAM 7 WILL BECOME THE SANNINS. BUT I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY WILL BECOME GAMBLERS, PSYCHOS, OR PERVERTS. ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT THEY WILL BECOME THEY'RE OWN PERSONS BUT NO MATTER WHAT, BECOME THE LEGENDARY 3.

2. HOW IS SASUKE GONNA RESURECT THE UCHIHA CLAN IF THERE ARE NO FEMALE UCHIHA'S LEFT?

**Mut** · Sat, 02-21-2004, 03:59 AM

what? how is this a itachi love fest? this is more focused on naruto changing sasuke's future than anything with itachi. how about thinking first?

and don't say "well, sasuke's future has something to do with itachi, so you're wrong" or something like that. think deeper about what i'm trying to say.

**Hotsuma** · Sat, 02-21-2004, 04:02 AM

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (dazzz @ Feb 21 2004, 03:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> 2. HOW IS SASUKE GONNA RESURECT THE UCHIHA CLAN IF THERE ARE NO FEMALE UCHIHA'S LEFT? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
He learns the kagebunshin from Naruto, and has it Henshin...........

Damn, did I just say that out loud?

**Death BOO Z** · Sat, 02-21-2004, 04:43 AM

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (dazzz @ Feb 21 2004, 02:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I GOTTA ADD COUPLE MORE THINGS:

1. IMO, I THINK TEAM 7 WILL BECOME THE SANNINS. BUT I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY WILL BECOME GAMBLERS, PSYCHOS, OR PERVERTS. ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT THEY WILL BECOME THEY'RE OWN PERSONS BUT NO MATTER WHAT, BECOME THE LEGENDARY 3.

2. HOW IS SASUKE GONNA RESURECT THE UCHIHA CLAN IF THERE ARE NO FEMALE UCHIHA'S LEFT? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
1. The legendary three didn't get that title for nothing... they are exceptional ninjas who were under the same teacher and each one of them left the village.. they are the only legendary three so far (it's not an official title). team 7 cannot become the legendary three and still stay together, so if they stay in the village (either by being hokage, head of the new uchiha clan or just a academy teacher), they don't have anything to set them apart from other shinobies, so they can't become legedary.

2. Sasuke said it himself, he believes there's a way to ressuract the uchiha clan, so their probably is. for example: there might uchihas that didn't want to be ninjas so they left the village, it's possible that there are females still alive, and besides, do you really believe that Kishimoto will state that all the uchihas were born from inter-family marridge? (then again, it could explain why all uchihas are so fucked up...)

and hotsume, there's no way a kagebunshin could handle labor, Sasuke would have to be the one who uses henge and carries the baby...

**xtort** · Sat, 02-21-2004, 04:54 AM

The point is: YOU TWO CAN'T TYPE 5 POSTS WITHOUT PUTTING SOMETHING IN ALL CAPITALS.

I know it's hard, with all those raging hormones that have to be running around your body, and pubic hair (finally, at age 16) sprouting, but please, give it a rest and let people talk intelligently. We all know that you're working through your own personal psychological issues through Naruto, and that's the real reason you hate Naruto and love Itachi (OMFG HE"LL ONLY BE KILKKED BY SAUSKE&#33

, but sheesh.

Aaaanyways. I think Kimimaro is going to spin around like a top, turning effectively into the Ginsu 6000 Slicer Dicer Chipper Shredder machine. Feed him logs? No problem! Tomatoes?! He juilennes! With this all in one machine, you can cut hours from your daily... err. Nevermind.

-xtortout

PS I wanted to edit this to dispel some peoples' inane belief that Naruto has *ahem* "no relevance to Itachi", or some such tripe. Try to stay with me here.

Akatsuki is after the youma.
Itachi is in Akatsuki.
~ Itachi is after the youma.

Naruto has kyuubi in him.
Kyuubi is one of the youma.
~ Naruto has one of the youma in him.

Itachi is after the youma.
Naruto has one of the youma in him.
~ Itachi is after Naruto.

Now, I know it's a little hard to link all those thoughts together, so I put them there so you could see it and put your brains around it. Have fun.

**Destroyor** · Sat, 02-21-2004, 05:03 AM

........ (Delete *several* paragraph on non-naruto related paragraphs concerting amusing behaviors on the gotwoot naruto manga 205 raw thread)

Right....

Anyway I think the Ultimate evil would either be the leader of Akatsuki or Sasuke. It *had* been *hint* many times that Sasuke wants power no matter what the cost, and currently no one in Konoha could grant/teach him that sort of power. For crying out loud Naruto *is* the main character and Sasuke *was and always will be* Naruto's rival. Naruto's main goal is to become hokage and right now he wants Sasuke's acknowledgment. Kishimoto's Naruto's main focus about friendship (yes, friendship, not ultimate power and whoop-ass), and tons of similar type of anime+manga all ended up with main character ending the series fighting vs. a friend?-rival (hmm, s-cry-ed comes to mind) and for Naruto to end like this wouldn't be too surprising. Orochimaru is just an important growth point for the characters (good and bad) but hell by no mean the endpoint. Whether Orochimaru will die or not is beside the point, it's almost certain that Orochimaru will be beaten and everyone just moves on. (Unless of course some lameass oh-I'm-back-from-the-dead crap. Please! _No_!!!!!!!!!& #33;&#33

Well, about the Sasuke *must* kill Itachi thing, er ... no, it's not written in stone. There could be some plot twist or some stupid turn of event that put Itachi in a better spotlight (hmm, weird thought, Itachi die protecting Sasuke -_=&#33

. This is manga, _anything_ could happen, however illogical or stupid it seems.

Lastly, the Udon thing is getting tiresome. God someone scribble a stupid pic on MS paint and we all have to laugh and joke about it eternally, blah!

I didn't type in _captial_, satisfied xtort?

**oni roh** · Sat, 02-21-2004, 05:05 AM

i don't think team 7 as a whole will become somethign as legendary as the sannins but i def. think sasuke and naruto will become legendary in their own rights. the only thing that would make them legendary as a whole would naruto and sasuke being so great that it made up for sakura's suckiness. considering when you looked at the legendary three they each had some form of crazyness, sakura imo doesn't seem too serious about being a ninja furthermore draggin down the though of the 3 becoming great as a whole

**Mut** · Sat, 02-21-2004, 05:14 AM

there no need to discuss something intelligently when it's so obvious and logical.

only read the below if your name is xtort
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5DADD'>and also, do you have something against me? well, it seems like it. so if you do, instead of being a pussy, tell it to me personally through PM. don't spam by posting irrelevant crap and don't bother writing sarcastic garbage like this:
"I know it's hard, with all those raging hormones that have to be running around your body, and pubic hair (finally, at age 16) sprouting, but please, give it a rest and let people talk intelligently. We all know that you're working through your own personal psychological issues through Naruto, and that's the real reason you hate Naruto and love Itachi (OMFG HE"LL ONLY BE KILKKED BY SAUSKE&#33

, but sheesh."</span>

anyway, 205 inane out?

**Hotsuma** · Sat, 02-21-2004, 05:34 AM

I type it in caps, because some people are just stupid, and can't seem to realize just how ridiculously pointless and out of place it would be, if Naruto is the one that ends up taking out Itachi. I get the impression, that if it sticks out a little more, people would drive it into their minds.

From a literary point of view, and the characters point of view, you're pretty damn naive to think that Naruto could ever beat Itachi. I don't say this because of any bias - I personally don't give a rats ass about either. But, I will call idiotic remarks, when I see them.

It's been said more than once, hell, it's mentioned almost everytime Sasuke has a freaking flashback, that he HAS TO KILL Itachi, no matter what. I'm not defending Itachi here - more like acknowledging Sasukes own motivation, instead of throwing it at Naruto, just because he's the prime suspect. Just because he is, doesn't mean he can take him out. Try to pull your head out of your ass and realize this, or just read the manga.

Btw, please move these last few posts to the Itachi thread.

**Insomniac** · Sat, 02-21-2004, 05:49 AM

Sakon loves Tayuya

**Mut** · Sat, 02-21-2004, 05:54 AM

leaving the village has nothing to do with being legendary. orochimaru, tsunade, and jiraiya were legendary cuz they were not only awesome ninjas but probably worthy of receiving the hokage title (but obviously the 4th was even more superior). members of team7 just gotta become super shinobis in their own way but still manage to stay as one team.

**sangai** · Sat, 02-21-2004, 05:54 AM

dazzz</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>anyway, 205 inane out? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

hey where is inanes version at

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