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[xtort]

... like boxing with children.

Here's the deal. It's a story. Given the completely artificial framework that we're in, Udon really might beat Itachi, as it's been said so frequently. There is nothing inane about Naruto beating Itachi, unless you can point out in the framework of the story something to the contrary. There's really nothing you can say about anyone beating anyone, because as Kishimoto is apt to allow for, the underdog is generally the victor. No one's strength has been absoluately measured, nor will it; it's a story.

That any of this could get your backs up this much proves many things, and most of them I don't want to air here. Just have fun, speak rationally, try to back up what you say, AND DON'T TYPE IN CAPITALS. (It doesn't do anything but make you look dumb.)

-xtortout

[PSJ]

why does every thread become off topic and ends up at itachi or the sannin. i cant stand it keep itachi in his thread. and dont drag teh sannin into every god damn thread. lets discuss kiba and his suiciding.

[gaara]

that kid has nothing to do with itachi...umm yeah

[Death BOO Z]

ok, here's a question about Ukon... he said that his justu is for assassinations, but when kiba dies, so soes he.
does anyone else see the contradiction in it?

Sakon and Ukon should kill Kiba and adopt akamaru, that would be the perfect ending to this useless fight. Shikamaru should escape from Tayuya. Kimimaru should realize that he doesn't have enough time to live and focus on bringing back Sasuke to orochimaru, Naruto should get his 1000 kyubified ass kicken down for fighting ugly. Sasuke should get to Oro and wrap up his part in the story for now, and then we could see some intersting parts of the manga, and not just bad kenshin ripp offs.

Wow, i really feel murderous today, i'm ptobably even less soscial than usual!

and btw: there isn't one of the sannins that stayed in the village, even jiraya (who is portrayted as the most loyal one to the village) isn't a leaf official shinobi, it's not a soild proof, but it sure hints that the point of the legendary three is to be away from the village.

[Everon]

Ukon can integrate his body into other people yes. But he can make it so that certain parts of Kiba's body consists of Kiba's cells alone. So he can physically attack a certain spot without hurting himself. But because Kiba stabbed himself before Ukon could isolate that area, he got hurt too.

Its strange that no victim of Ukon's ever thought of that before.

[Insomniac]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>2. HOW IS SASUKE GONNA RESURECT THE UCHIHA CLAN IF THERE ARE NO FEMALE UCHIHA&#39;S LEFT? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

nothing says that the female has to have a sharigan or be of Uchiha blood, the dominant gene will carry over.

[Mut]

yeah but the thing with that is, the child of a uchiha and normal person will only be a half uchiha which results in:

1. not being able to do mange sharingan
2. not being able to fight against a mange sharingan

cuz don&#39;t you have to be a full uchiha? or am i wrong?

CONFUSING, NO?

[Vagabond]

I don&#39;t think you can be half uchiha. Either you are one or you aren&#39;t.
Do use the mange sharingan you need to have uchiha blood.
I dunno where people got the idea of &quot;half uchiha&quot; though. Maybe cause people think kakashi has uchiha blood. But if he had uchiha blood he would have the sharingan from birth.

[Mut]

half uchiha is perfectly logical. i don&#39;t see why you would question the idea of &quot;half uchiha&quot;.

[jing]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (dazzz @ Feb 21 2004, 06:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> yeah but the thing with that is, the child of a uchiha and normal person will only be a half uchiha which results in:

1. not being able to do mange sharingan
2. not being able to fight against a mange sharingan

cuz don&#39;t you have to be a full uchiha? or am i wrong?

CONFUSING, NO? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
then im guessing Sasuke is a half uchiha then

[Vagabond]

Half uchiha doesn&#39;t make sense to me because i can&#39;t imagine uchiha clan is inbred. The clan must have started with one person (could be wrong bout that). What are they gonna do, have sex with themselves? I kinda compare this with the whole adam and even theory. If there are only 2 people in the world the only way the can produce more people is if the daughters and the sons have sex with each other and have their own child. To me that sounds really weird and I can&#39;t imagine a sane person would do that.

This is gonna sound weird but, maybe its something like when a person has sex with an uchiha they gain their bloodline ability. It seems farfetched but it seems like the only explination. At least to me........
If you can think of something better please tell me.










............man i&#39;m really taking this too far.

[Immortal Boner]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (AAB @ Feb 21 2004, 12:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Did someone just badmouth Berserk?...It&#39;s a MASTER piece...a truly awesome story. Some things take time...and a well written manga (like berserk)happens to be one of them. And I for one thought Berserk was good from the get go...and it STILL is. It didn&#39;t take 10 years for it to get good...i wonder if the people who complain about mangas appreciate how difficult it is to write an ongoing story...without major plot holes...and keep it interesting for several years. Ugh...I don&#39;t think the taka no dan arc...or any other berserk arc would have been as good if it was rushed. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Ugh people always jump to conclusions. In terms of manga I prefer Beserk over Naruto due to the insane violence and sex. Shallow eh?

But seriously all I&#39;m saying is that hate the wait.

[Immortal Boner]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Insomniac @ Feb 21 2004, 05:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Sakon loves Tayuya </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I do too. With that red hair of hers she looks like one of those punk rock chicks. If only she&#39;ll change her wardrobe...

[Hotsuma]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Immortal Boner @ Feb 21 2004, 09:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (AAB &#064; Feb 21 2004, 12:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Did someone just badmouth Berserk?...It&#39;s a MASTER piece...a truly awesome story. Some things take time...and a well written manga (like berserk)happens to be one of them. And I for one thought Berserk was good from the get go...and it STILL is. It didn&#39;t take 10 years for it to get good...i wonder if the people who complain about mangas appreciate how difficult it is to write an ongoing story...without major plot holes...and keep it interesting for several years. Ugh...I don&#39;t think the taka no dan arc...or any other berserk arc would have been as good if it was rushed. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Ugh people always jump to conclusions. In terms of manga I prefer Beserk over Naruto due to the insane violence and sex. Shallow eh?

But seriously all I&#39;m saying is that hate the wait. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Berserk freakin rules. And, I only watched the anime.

[Immortal Boner]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hotsuma @ Feb 21 2004, 11:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Immortal Boner &#064; Feb 21 2004, 09:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (AAB &#064; Feb 21 2004, 12:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Did someone just badmouth Berserk?...It&#39;s a MASTER piece...a truly awesome story.* Some things take time...and a well written manga (like berserk)happens to be one of them.* And I for one thought Berserk was good from the get go...and it STILL is.* It didn&#39;t take 10 years for it to get good...i wonder if the people who complain about mangas appreciate how difficult it is to write an ongoing story...without major plot holes...and keep it interesting for several years.* Ugh...I don&#39;t think the taka no dan arc...or any other berserk arc would have been as good if it was rushed. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Ugh people always jump to conclusions. In terms of manga I prefer Beserk over Naruto due to the insane violence and sex. Shallow eh?

But seriously all I&#39;m saying is that hate the wait. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Berserk freakin rules. And, I only watched the anime. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
You should definately check out the manga just to see the story progress. Got it off of Mangareaders at IRC but I think suprnova might have. With blood and things getting mutilated on just about every page it&#39;s got to be one of the darkest series out there.

[Daniel of Lorien]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (dazzz @ Feb 20 2004, 06:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> what the hell.

ummm, naruto&#39;s fighting style is absolutely boring as hell. i can probably predict what&#39;s gonna happen next and i think a lot of others can too.

non-boring fighting styles:

kakashi
sannins
itachi
hokage
gai/lee
sasuke

to me naruto (the character) is boring to watch cuz it&#39;s ALWAYS kage bunshin no jutsu &gt; rush in &gt; all clones get whooped and then: rasengan or summon gamabunta and if everything fails, kyubi chakra. and process repeats until victory.

zZzZZZzzZZZzZZzzz...

wake me up when someone exciting fights. where is the sleepy smiley? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
eveyone except maybe the Sannins and Hokage do the same... they all have their Ace of Spades. Kakashi always uses his eye... and if that doesn&#39;t work he tries chidori... Itachi is even more predictible.... he will simply use his mange(sp?) ability and baring that he will simply use the ability you use on him back on you... so and then Gai/Lee punch and kick people really fast... Lee is going to use the Lotus... every time... so far besides the Sannins and the Hokage only Sasuke has show a great diversity of abilities(and now he&#39;s got his 2 moves... lion combo and chidori). You go with what works and if making 1000 clones and wearing down the enemy works then why wouldn&#39;t you do it? It&#39;s like playing a video game... you play the way that lets you win right? You don&#39;t go and play the way that makes you lose right? That&#39;s like going backwards in a racing game...

[Daniel of Lorien]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Insomniac @ Feb 20 2004, 08:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> thats the end of the story though, Orochimaru will die when then series finishes, hes the &#39;big bad guy&#39;

Itachi will die sometime near the end </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
what would be cooler is if the Originzation caused Oro to join with the Leaf... I&#39;d like to see the Ledgendary Three fight together ... that would be cool

[Death BOO Z]

Itachi isn&#39;t really that important to the story, he&#39;s there only to draw sasuke into oro&#39;s hands...

the manga doesn&#39;t have to end with oro dying, itachi dying or even naruto being hokage... the only important thing that should happen is team 7 not going the same route as the 3 sennins: Sakura won&#39;t lose her important people, Sasuke won&#39;t go over to the darkness completly (he has two goals in life, killing sasuke and rebuilding the uchiha clan, the rebuilding of his clan is the foreshadowing about the fact that he&#39;ll come back to the leaf someday) and Naruto won&#39;t end up as a lonely sexless pervert...

the main point of the story seems to be fighting against destiny; every character has a battle to win, naruto has to be accasepted, Sasuke has to follow his own path and not Oro&#39;s&#092;Itachi&#39;s paths, Neji has to overcome his issues concerning the main house, Hinata has to really change herself, Lee has to recover from his fatal injuries, and Gaara needs to sleep around abit (sleep as in resting, not sex... but i wonder, would the sand spirit consider him having sex as trying to hurt him?), and Sakura should find some issues to get over them.

oh, and i must say that kiba should drop dead already, and Sakon should adopt akamaru into his body as well...

oh, and the berserk manga is just great, if you liked the anime then you&#39;d go crazy for the manga...

edit:
something about this whole arc... we&#39;ve seen too many people explaining to thier enemies how thier attacks work, it&#39;s a ninja anime for crying out loud&#33; the audince should think about the explenations alone or at least hear it from someone who&#39;s analayzing the attack... think about Kiba&#39;s (kenshin&#39;s) ougie, wouldn&#39;t it to cool if Sakon figured out on his own how the attack works by looking at the scrath marks left on the ground and then he would face Kiba right on and summon the wall into kiba&#39;s face? people liked Zabuza-Kakashi first fight becuase we didn&#39;t realize completly what happened until many chapters after...

and if we compare this arc to the other battle-full arc (chunin exam, perimanry round) this arc still comes short, back then, the non important characters had short fights (less than an issue) and we pnly saw lots of emotional fights, now we have to endure the boring fights between nobodys... i hope that shika&#39;s fight will be short and sweet, like it should be (he doesn&#39;t have much to reflect on, he just needs to escape tayuya).

[Insomniac]

Oro would only do that if the Atasuki were after him (they could find out he was a reincarnation of one of the demons or something, or a child of one)
but yeah i spose that would be ok

[Mut]

yeah, thanks for biogen 101 but i got an A in it and what you said is a bit irrelevant to what i&#39;m talking about. you&#39;re still not understanding what i&#39;m saying. your scenario with the posibilities of SS, Sn, nS, and nn results from the parents who are Sn and Sn, while i&#39;m talking about SS and nn. so nevermind your biogen lesson. i&#39;m talking about the that fact that the child of a uchiha and a regular person (lez say hyuga) would result in half uchiha, half hyuga. yes, if we&#39;re talking about genetics, you&#39;d be on the mark. but the child of the SS and nn would come out only as Sn, Sn, Sn, and Sn. therefor having ZERO SS genetics. so the child would be still be a halfy and the possibilites of being able to use mange sharingan could be thrown out. i don&#39;t know why we had to go to biogen to figure this out. i thought it was pretty logical just by thinking of it, no?