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</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (dazzz @ Feb 21 2004, 07:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> yeah but the thing with that is, the child of a uchiha and normal person will only be a half uchiha which results in:

1. not being able to do mange sharingan
2. not being able to fight against a mange sharingan

cuz don&#39;t you have to be a full uchiha? or am i wrong?

CONFUSING, NO? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
The &quot;half uchiha&quot; thing isn&#39;t right. If an ability like that is linked to blood, it would be genetic. Dominant and recessive genes work this way:

There are two gene types, dominant and recessive. Let&#39;s call the dominant Sharingan gene &quot;S&quot;, and the recessive non-Sharingan gene &quot;n&quot;. Given 2 gene types, there&#39;s only four combinations:

SS Sn

nS nn

In 2 out of 4 cases, the user would have the dominant Sharingan gene, and would possess the ability. In one of the cases, they will be like Itachi and Sasuke, and ... I guess, it&#39;d be called having the bloodline limit, as in the most powerful it can be. In the last case, the &quot;nn&quot; case, the person would have no ability at Sharingan, and wouldn&#39;t even be able to pass it down.

Now, assuming Sasuke is &quot;SS&quot;, he could continue the family by having children with anyone, because 3 out of 4 of his children would have the ability. It gets tricky afterwards, because his children have children with other people (assuming they aren&#39;t incenstuous), and then depending on which child it is (SS, Sn, nS, or nn), their chances are either 1 in 4, or 1 in 2, for their children to possess the ability. Those children have to marry other children with the trait for the family to continue.

Easy, no?

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Yeah, thanks.

-xtortout

[Destroyor]

If the S is dominant then even an Sn person could use sharingan, but that doesn&#39;t cover everything.

Since so many of you claim to studied bio101+, does anyone of you remember something called multiple alleles and multigenic inheritance? For those that didn&#39;t take bio courses or simply can&#39;t remember, multiple alleles means more then two types of alleles can exist for the same gene in a population. For example: S, n and m (muhahahahaha) are all alleles for the same &quot;sharingan gene&quot;. Possible combo would be sn sm nm all coding for the same particular character. Multigenic inheritance means that more then 1 gene controls a particular character. So beside the s,n and m (hide smirk) there could be say ... another gene with the allelles F U determine whether or not the phenotype (sharingan).

Ok to simplified things all the above means that maybe sharingan is controlled by more then 1 gene and if S and F are dominant (and require to process sharingan).... any of the following genetic combo would work:
SS FF
Sn FF
Sm FF
Sm FU
Sn FU
SS FU

and lets not go into the what not if sharingan is a recessive trait ||||

If we are talking about phenotype (physically having sharingan or not) there is no &quot;half-Uchiha&quot;, either you have it or you don&#39;t. Speaking genetically &quot;half-Uchiha&quot; doesn&#39;t not make them anything less then a &quot;full-Uchiha&quot; as long as the gene they process are dominant.

Making thing even more complicated is the fact that the sharingan have to be &quot;awaken&quot;, based on what Sasuke did and said in the earlier manga chapter not a lot of Uchiha have sharingan, which could lead to some disturbing and interesting conclusion ....

[Mut]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Destroyor @ Feb 22 2004, 05:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> If we are talking about phenotype (physically having sharingan or not) there is no &quot;half-Uchiha&quot;, either you have it or you don&#39;t. Speaking genetically &quot;half-Uchiha&quot; doesn&#39;t not make them anything less then a &quot;full-Uchiha&quot; as long as the gene they process are dominant. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
ok, you&#39;re going waaaaaaay too deep into the matter...

anyway, then what is the child of a uchiha and a hyuga called?

[Destroyor]

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Depend on whose the father ....

Abilities-wise unknown ... genetic is random chance after all.

Going way too deep? Hey you guys brought it up and I just want to fill my 2 cent in that&#39;s all ...


Off topic: Jiyuuuuuuuuuuuubei-chan&#33;

[xtort]

I thought about the fact that I had done the little genetic list for Sn parents, but realistically, if the siblings mate (not unheard of in feudal societies), bam, you&#39;re back to Mange Sharingan, PLUS the child has two heads (because of inbreeding). Talk about fucked, what would Itachi do versus TWO mange sharingans&#33;?&#33;

( that&#39;s a joke, no need to bring back the whole &quot;ITACHI IB SBETTAR THAN EVERYOVNE&quot; thread.)

-xtortout

[Power PMV]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (xtort @ Feb 23 2004, 03:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I thought about the fact that I had done the little genetic list for Sn parents, but realistically, if the siblings mate (not unheard of in feudal societies), bam, you&#39;re back to Mange Sharingan, PLUS the child has two heads (because of inbreeding). Talk about fucked, what would Itachi do versus TWO mange sharingans&#33;?&#33;

( that&#39;s a joke, no need to bring back the whole &quot;ITACHI IB SBETTAR THAN EVERYOVNE&quot; thread.)

-xtortout </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
there is no need for two mange Sharingans. Udon&#39;s &quot;Dividing numbers&quot; sharingan is enough to defeat itachi.




P.S. Waiting for the comments from itachi_ and dazzz: &quot;dood, that&#39;s old, it&#39;s not funny anymore&quot;

[Hotsuma]

Udon is immortal, Power PMV. He can&#39;t ever get old.

Hey, post a link to that &quot;Perfect fighter&quot; thread, just to show Itachi being owned with his &quot;katana in hand&quot;.

[Power PMV]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hotsuma &#064; Feb 23 2004, 03:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Udon is immortal, Power PMV. He can&#39;t ever get old.

Hey, post a link to that &quot;Perfect fighter&quot; thread, just to show Itachi being owned with his &quot;katana in hand&quot;.

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