Asuma-sensei

[Raven]

*ahem* no, Sarutobi is his actual name.

[lasaire]

Well, disregarding the first name/last name discussion, here's some further proof along the lines that persuades me Asuma is somehow related to the 3rd:

1) Resemblance. Spiky hair, pointed beard vs. pointed goatee. You'll notice that in anime family members tend to be drawn closer alike than family members actually necessarily resemble in real life. A good number of people are convinced that Naruto is the 4th's son, when all they have in common is really a strong resemblance. The 4th's name is garbled, and we can't really make it out for sure. Asuma and the 3rd look alike, AND share the same name, whether first or last. View and see for yourself (apologies for the low image quality).



2) This is an interesting little tidbit: what about that scarf/bandanna thing Asuma wears at his waist? It has the character for 'fire' on it (ho). This is the same character that is used to write Hokage (ho-fire + kage-shadow). It could be that Asuma's sporting a garment that doesn't have any use except to show his connections to the Hokage title or name, much the same way we buy t-shirts for our favorite sports teams or music groups. Now, that fire character could relate to the whole of the Leaf, but nobody else wears it, so my feeling is that he has a special reason to wear it. View (again, apologies that it is small):


And yes, I started to notice these similarities before Asuma got his kickass scene in the anime.

[Uzumaki Kakashi]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (gaara @ Feb 17 2004, 06:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Sarutobi is the Hokage&#39;s nick name bakas, as in &#39;Monkey&#39;..because he looks like one, summons one, and even has the same voice as another character that is nick named Sarutobi, which would be the chief in Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex, actually the chief in all of the GITS is nick named Sarutobi too..He has the same hair cut as hokage without the hat lols, and has the same facial characteristics.. as in OLD MAN SARUTOBI&#33; old monkey man, you&#39;ll understand later on silly people. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
its funny when poeolpe try to correct us. yeah sure the 3rd looks like a monkey and can summon enma (monkey staff) but us manga readers have known the thirds name is sarutobi. and know the anime watchers know as well.

so next time before u try to correct someone, make sure ur right and not blowing steam out ur butt.

lol

[PSJ]

hmm good point yes yes. family members are often drawn very alike, for example chuoji, shikamaru, ino and their fathers look very alike. inos father almost looks like a transvestite....


and that &quot;Ho&quot; sign was a good point when i watch closely i recognize it. it is on the 3rds hat... that might be some kind of connection to the 3rd i think that is a possiblity. and ppl cant say that they know for sure that 3rd&#39;s firstname is sarutobi and not his lastname its just speculation.

[PSJ]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (gaara &#064; Feb 17 2004, 12:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Sarutobi is the Hokage&#39;s nick name bakas, as in &#39;Monkey&#39;..because he looks like one, summons one, and even has the same voice as another character that is nick named Sarutobi, which would be the chief in Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex, actually the chief in all of the GITS is nick named Sarutobi too..He has the same hair cut as hokage without the hat lols, and has the same facial characteristics.. as in OLD MAN SARUTOBI&#33; old monkey man, you&#39;ll understand later on silly people. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
eemm you are the only baka here. sarutobi is his actual name. his nickname(only called by 2nd hokage) is Saru which means monkey and is a part of his lastname. the connection with the GITS guy isnt relevant here...

why are there so many asuma threads all of a sudden?

[EpoC]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rEkKaShInObI @ Feb 17 2004, 01:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sangai sakusei &#064; Feb 17 2004, 12:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> not every body gets cancer

besides he&#39;ll probably get killed before the lung cancer takes over

hokage smoked a pipe which is much worse and the cancer didn&#39;t get him </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
True True... total druggies. they should try steroids =D </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
haha good one&#33;
I think thoose pills that choji uses in the manga is the closest thing to steroids.

[Terracosmo]

Asuma ISN&#39;T related to Sarutobi.

As somebody already said, Sarutobi is the first name of the 3rd &amp; the last name of Asuma.
If he was even just a relative to either the 3rd or Konohamaru I am pretty darned sure the manga would have shown that already, what&#39;s with the 3rd&#39;s burial and all.

My guess is that Asuma comes from a ninja family who changed their surname to Sarutobi to honor the 3rd. Doesn&#39;t that sound pretty good? It just came to mind.

[.akai]

I don&#39;t know whether or not both of them or related. I don&#39;t rule out the possibility though.

By the way, what made you all think that Sarutobi is 3rd&#39;s first name???

Sarutobi is a surname (last name).

[KakashiSensei]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (.akai &#064; Feb 17 2004, 11:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I don&#39;t know whether or not both of them or related. I don&#39;t rule out the possibility though.

By the way, what made you all think that Sarutobi is 3rd&#39;s first name???

Sarutobi is a surname (last name). </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
well for one all the sensei&#39;s are reffered to by the first name.
Kakashi-Sensei
Gai-Sensei
Asuma-Sensei

You never hear them say Hatake-Sensei

Hell we dont even know Gai&#39;s last name.

And you cant say that Oro is showing respect for saying the last name of his old teacher istead of the first name, The only thing he has is contempt for the 3rd. And i think the whole idea of him saying that was to reveal that the 3rd was his teacher.

[PSJ]

just what akai. said sarutobi is a surname. it is used so much in ninja animes because a legendary ninja was named Sarutobi Sasuke. but as far as we know asuma is not related to konohamaru and 3rd. altho we have no proof that sarutobi is 3rds surname BUT we have no proof that it is his firstname either.


kakashisensei speak for yourself about gai. i for one knows his surname. if you guys wanna know then ill tell ya. gai&#39;s surname is maito. his name is Maito Gai.

[itachi_]

Who&#39;s Konohamaru&#39;s father?

[Uzumaki Kakashi]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (itachi_ @ Feb 17 2004, 11:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Who&#39;s Konohamaru&#39;s father? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
no body knows yet.


so just to sum up, the thrid hokage is saurtobi (his first name) and known as saru by the 1st and 2nd. most people have nicknames with their FIRST name like robert can be bob or rob.

also asuma&#39;s last name is sarutobi, no reltaion. besides all the students call their teachers by first name as said earlier.

and konohamru would have atleawst been seen with asuma if somehow asuma is related to the 3rd hokage. since konohamru is the grandson.

[Legendary Nin]

Asuma is the smoking specialist.The ninja that smokes more than Joe Camal.

[itachi_]

Let&#39;s clearify some things

Hokage3rd name is <u>Sarutobi</u> his last name is unknown

Asuma&#39;s name is <u>Asuma</u> his last name is Sarutobi


My theory, they&#39;re not releated.

[TeLeKiNeSiS]

he&#39;s going to get lung cancer someday, i tell ya...



anyway, on topic: asuma seems pretty good, and i agree with the balance idea...
as for relation to sarutobi....i betcha ...

3rd hokage had a son, asuma, who then had an affair with kurenai, who gaven birth to konohamaru, who was given to hokage to take care of because a sexy jounin like her is too busy to take care of her own son? just a guess

[Uzumaki Kakashi]

thanks for saying exactly what i jsust said.

lol

[sangai]

not every body gets cancer

besides he&#39;ll probably get killed before the lung cancer takes over

hokage smoked a pipe which is much worse and the cancer didn&#39;t get him

[Terracosmo]

Good points.

But&#33;

1) So they are similar hair-wise. But you know, both Tsunade &amp; Anko have big boobs and they are (probably) not related. (Good example huh?)

2) Having the ho sign is probably not strange since he could very well use it to honor the mighty leader, Hokage.

I still say that they aren&#39;t related and if they were the manga would have shown it by now.

[Reason]

Just to add a few more pic, these are from 70..





I think he might be related, we will find out sooner or later...

The Hokage Families are somewhat hidden to us since everyone calls them by their Title...the one exception was Orochimaru calling The Third &quot;Sarutobi-Sensi&quot; Anything based off this is pure speculation...

- Reason -

[Insomniac]

if they were related then why wasnt Asuma a main morner at the 3rd&#39;s death?
wouldnt he have been centered on if he was related?
theres no reason for any family tie to the 3rd to be revealed about him anymore since the 3rd is dead.
if they are related (i doubt it) then we&#39;ll never know because it makes no sense to say it now.