71 preview

[Insomniac]

well the animators dont seem to have ANY experience at all in drawing, i mean just look at how they draw its just like they got some random people do it...

most of the fanart in the board are far better then the stuff they do.

as for people taking offense at the 'korean' team, thats what they are, they're the korean team.
If you find that racist then go tell them to change their race, personally i dont see why its racist at all - we're not talking about WHO THEY ARE, we're talking about the QUALITY of DRAWING.
theres nothing racist in saying they suck, they're a team from korea so we can call them the korean team cant we? its not like we're saying all koreans suck at drawing just THEM.

[itachi_]

We should send a "Hitokiri" to assaassinate them all .. they're ruin the joy of watching Naruto

[Destroyor]

In the preview only the "fat oro" scene is mess up, so it's not really for sure that 71 will be a "mess-up-crappy-korean draw-eps". Maybe Oro is doing a jutsu that's why he look fat???

[itachi_]

Not only Orochimaru, but Hokage 3rd also, he looked like a ape to me, just look at his face

[revel911]

I think the best point so far was by Hatake Kakashi, they should let the Koreans or Team B do a good percentage of the backgrounds while the Japanese premier artist do the forgrounds and characters, this could really help balance the budget so that EVERY episode is up to par.

[Insomniac]

no he doesnt use a jutsu to make him fat, geez some people :/

[itachi_]

I just want to throw up when i see the preview, Orochimaru is like "the lard man".

I hope that that one won't be like epsiode 65

[TeLeKiNeSiS]

maybe oro has something inside him that he needs to shoot out...a fireball perhaps? or maybe its some jutsu, i duno. how do you know he isnt intentionally drawn that way?

[itachi_]

A little bit roughly spoked about the episode...btw don't you think that asuma is one of the psysically biggest jounin's along with baki, i'd like to see one of those fight against Kakashi, would they be able to beat him?

[Tenkei]

^^* Still .. you guys are talking like the artwork stinks in comparison to, say, fanart done on this bored. Which, yes, the fanart may be better. But you have to consider that the people drawing the fanart don't do it in such a way as to plan ahead like they're animating it.

During animation, they have to consider how to draw things so it'll be easy to animate for them. They can't add too much detail or too many lines. It would slow them down.

Shortening it up a bit, people doing fanart and other single pieces of artwork is completely different than an animation team, who has to focus on doing thousands of pieces in a short period of time. So, it's a lot different.

It certainly shouldn't be said that these people don't work hard. Animators work very hard to get their deadlines and things. It's not an easy job at all, if you want to go read up on it a little bit.

If you want high-quality artwork that stays consistent, you can read the manga. ^^* No long anime like Naruto will stay looking top-notch every episode. It's just impossible. Shorter series will look nicer every time.

It's not something new, anyways. The animation has been doing this for quite a while, actually. Ever since the end of the Haku/Zabuza arc, it's been unstable. So..

[Insomniac]

why cant they just hire one animation team the whole time?
i'm sure kishimoto wouldnt be happy with the quality of work thats being churned out by the lesser team.
its not that its a massive effort - THEY GET PAID TO DO IT.
they're not doing it for free, its their JOB to make it look good.

[Hatake Kakashi]

The reason the Japanese have them is to save money. Korean animators do work for cheap, but their work tends to be subpar. It is just Bird Studio or whatever it is trying to cut some costs on animation teams. Which is pretty stupid because they could hire up and coming Japanese animators and get better work for the same price.

[itachi_]

It's strange that they don't have the money that's required, i don't get it. It's so popular, it should't be a problem.

[Hyuga Koji]

They probably have the money it's simple business if they can get the work done for cheaper occasionally they're going to do it.

It's not really that many people bitching about it so they don't really think twice about saving some cash.

[Insomniac]

its simple - they want to make as much money out of it as they can, which means lower the quality to get more money.

[Assertn]

i tend to wonder how other anime series that have lots of episodes manage to keep their quality alot more consistent. Like One Piece and Kenshin for example. Although then again the quality in those are consistently good, while naruto fluctuates between awesome and annoying, so i guess it balances out. I thought it was very painful to see orochimaru in the previews, but then i remembered that there IS a time when he takes his face off to show what the body he possesses REALLY looks like, so maybe they tried to make him shorter and noticeably different cause of the younger body he reveals to Sarutobi.

[Insomniac]

if they tried to make him shorter why would they make him fatter?
thats really just a bad attempt at Orochimaru's normal form if you look, when he takes off his face his height doesnt change either just his face.

i dont understand why its so hard to just keep one team doing each episode, other less popular animes do it.
i'm just sooo disappointed that naruto choose to crap up the hokage fight
i guess they're valueing gaara vs naruto more

[Jman]

preview stunk. Oro gained, while Hokage lost pounds

[Kyuubi_Rage]

Well i never seen them use taijutsu, that makes some fights boring.

[Hotsuma]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Tenkei @ Feb 13 2004, 03:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> It just sounds kind of offensive the way you guys are saying it ...

Things like &quot;Koreans suck at character designs&quot;, and &quot;If the Koreans mess up the fight&quot; can make it sound like you&#39;re being pretty offensive, don&#39;t you think?

Honestly, they aren&#39;t paid to do quality character designs. The reason that they get the work is because they&#39;ll do it for cheaper. They pay cheap for episodes that the staff doesn&#39;t care much about, and so, the amount of money will effect the quality of the episode.
For the nicer episodes, they&#39;ll head more towards a higher quality.

I&#39;m not saying you guys were trying to make Korean people sound bad. I&#39;m just letting you know from an outside perspective that it sounds like you&#39;re bashing all Korean artists/animators. XD

But yeah. Not every episode can look super good. Due to the series being huge, it would be impossible of even think of having a budget large enough to pay for the best animation for everything. The best is saved for the fights and scenes they think are most important.
Honestly, doesn&#39;t it make those fight scenes just that much better?

(Personally, I hate the Hokage vs. Orochimaru fight, anyways ^^* At least. It&#39;s good story-wise, but I found the actual fight to be boring.) </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I wish Koreans didn&#39;t develop such a bad rap, with the episode right before the big Sasuke-Gaara fight.

I&#39;m Korean, and when I see that my country is being knocked on for bad animation, I get pissed. But, the fact that they&#39;d do such a half-assed job to begin with, really burns me up more.

It seems that the only thing Koreans really excel at making, are cell phones.

If anybody actually knows of a Korean animated series that&#39;s as good as various anime, please inform me. The only &quot;anime&quot; from Korea I saw in the states was Armageddon - and that fucking blew chunks.