Who was in the third summoned coffin?

[Nine Tailed Demon]

Did we get a definite answer?

[Insomniac]

there are a fair few people that look like naruto

about 6ish
they're not all related either

[XwingRob]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (CmDr_RavEn @ Feb 14 2004, 11:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Hey has anyone noticed that the 4th looks like Naruto? Maybe they&#39;re father and son&#33; *nods furiously*

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NO WAY&#33; GET OUT&#33; *pushes CmDr_RavEn back.

[Noonan]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lasaire @ Feb 13 2004, 02:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> The 3rd jutsu says that with the completion of that jutsu, his soul will be consumed and along with the soul of the one whose soul is sealed, they will battle and mingle together in the belly of death, hating each other for all eternity. He says it&#39;s the jutsu of one who sacrificed his life for the Leaf; at which point Orochimaru realizes that &quot;So, this is the jutsu that sealed even the Kyubi.&quot;
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Okay - after seeing the anime version of the summoning of the dead scene I have an odd theory about this

#1 Orochi was trying to summon Hokage&#39;s 1,2,4 (i think we all agree on this)

#2 Sandaime says in the manga that the Jutsu the 4th uses seals the 2 souls together for all eternity, where they MINGLE and fight.

#3 Sandaime specifically reacts to the 4th&#39;s coffin. - more than the other 2 he feels the need to stop THAT ONE.

#4 The anime re-inforces the image of Sandiame stopping the ressurection of the 4th, rather than it failing on its own (the manga is a bit vague on this point)

so - when Naruto see&#39;s the Kyuubi inside him - all he ever sees is it&#39;s eyes and the darkness surrounding it - is it possible that Yondaime and the Kyuubi have merged?

If so that would explain why the 3rd was so concerned about seeing Yondaime&#39;s coffin, it might have contained him, or it may have been a way to free Kyuubi due to its connection to Yondaime.

It would also be an alternate explanation for why Naruto can access the Kyuubi chackra so easily - Yondaime&#39;s spirit is helping him.

[Insomniac]

yeah thats kinda my impression of it, unless they&#39;re being vague on the sealed for eternity fighting thing

could be just a bad translation

[TeLeKiNeSiS]

it was the fourth. there&#39;s a 4 on the coffin.

[Yondaime]

Naruto can extract the kyubi chakra because of 4th because of the way the sealing technique was performed. The overflow of Kyubi&#39;s chakra mixes with Nartuo&#39;s . And about Naruto being able to communicate with Kyubi was just a way to explain us...that he has found the key to use Kyubi&#39;s locked powers inside of him.....its a little hard to believe that he actually went inside his body with corridors and water and than there is a door with kyubi inside of it....and he speaks to him.....and it all happened while he was falling down.....

so its just that he found out that if he tries to extract kyubi&#39;s chakra it comes automatically.

and abt the 3rd coffin...yes it was the 4th.....but i guess we&#39;ll never find out the truth...unless we get Kishimoto and make him answer all our questions...

Can anybody do that??? hmmmm...it be COOL

[Uzumaki Naruto]

that would be nice, but then hell prolly just threaten to stop drawing naruto mangas bc we wont leave his ass alone

[primalspas]

i just realized something, in the manga, the third coffin stays where it is and that little eye keeps watching and commenting through the coffin, but in the anime the 3rd pushes the coffin back through the portal thing. Anyone speculate as to why they would make that change, it seems to me to actually be somewhat important in terms of future implications.

[Yondaime]

If Oro can summon people like 1st, 2nd and 4th.....why don&#39;t have just ask them to teach Oro all their forbidden jutsus....coz we know the summons have to obey their master....and after Oro put the Kunai&#39;s on their head they are without emotions and just merely puppets.....whatelse does Oro need...he wants to learn all the jutsu&#39;s in the world...and those 3 hokage&#39;s were the best shinobis in the world so got to know all the secret jutsus they created...hmmm Oro is stupid,

[Raven]

Well there&#39;s not exactly much time mid battle to learn new jutsus.

[Insomniac]

he can probably only summon them once, and jutsus take awhile to learn you know.
obviously the jutsu wouldnt just have them walking around for ages - he has to remove their thoughts and such to regenerate their bodies so they can exist for a longer period of time (theory)

[PSJ]

well for the summoning thing i think orochimaru can summon a soul many diffrent times but he needs a new host body each time. but it would be a great way to learn jutsus. just summon all the four hokages(if he can summon sealed souls) and learn their jutsus. btw isnt it kinda stupid of orochimaru to want the sharingan to learn all the jutsus in the world seeing as the sharingan cant copy all jutsus?

[Nine Tailed Demon]

I want to also add, Good fucking question&#33;

[itachi_]

I first though that you woould have to sacrifise a human before creating a summoning from edo-tensei, i don&#39;t remember when it happend in the manga, it was kin and zaku, right? shouldn&#39;t it have been a flashback when he sacrifised them in episode 69 or 70 ? did orochimaru sacrifise them after or before the fight with the hokage?

[.akai]

There was a human body in the 3rd coffin. Whose was that? We don&#39;t know. (but definitely not 4th&#39;s body)
All I know is that Orochimaru was going to summon the 4th Hokage... he needed a body(vessel) to contain the soul of the 4th Hokage if the summon was successful.

Since the summon failed, we won&#39;t know for sure whether or not 4th soul even existed. All we saw was nothing more than just an empty vessel in a coffin labeled &quot;四&quot; (four/forth).



For those who were asking about this earlier, the word on the first coffin is 初, which is &quot;first&quot;.
And 一, simply means &quot;one&quot;.
The two word more or less mean the same thing depending on the context.

[Death BOO Z]

actually, the quate in my sig comes from a disscusion about this subject in the open naruto forum...

i guess that dosu was the supposed body that would become the forth... sure, he died long ago, but we don&#39;t know when zaku and kin died...

[BakaShinji]

interesting.

the third coffin doesn&#39;t sink back down - and comments on the fight as it goes along?

since when? where is it in the manga? I thought it sank like it did in the anime.

[Mut]

it can be assumed that kimimaro had a greater ability that was more useful, effctive and convinient than the sharingan, since he was orochimaru&#39;s first choice.

[.akai]

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No. I thought it sank down like it did in the anime.
-scratches head-