I guess we'll never know for sure who was in the 3rd coffin. We can speculate all we like, but we'll never find out. How convenient that the Sarutobi was able to dispel it.
I guess we'll never know for sure who was in the 3rd coffin. We can speculate all we like, but we'll never find out. How convenient that the Sarutobi was able to dispel it.
I think I know precisely what I mean
when I say it's a schpadoinkle day
the most likely theory is that it was intended for the 4th
now people say that if the 4th is sealed and fighting the kyuubi for eternity that means that he cant be summoned but we dont know that for sure, i mean hell the other 2 were dead a long time and their souls were summonable - i think that it doesnt matter where the soul is as long as its dead and the jutsu is proformed without being dispelled
A lot of people have made comments about how the Nine Tails Fox and the Fourth Hokage are supposedly fighting for all eternity... well, when Naruto went to visit the fox inside of him and demands that he pay rent, thus allowing him to summon the Big Frog, the Big Fox didn't seem to be fighting with anybody, just, errr, sitting there. Just a thought.
That's probably why the 3rd coffin was never opened...... because Kishimoto just cbf explaining all the soul/sealing/summoning stuff and how it relates to the 4th already being sealed, etc.
He probably thought "it's too complicated, people will ask too many questions, oh well I'll make it so the summon is unsuccessful".
I think I know precisely what I mean
when I say it's a schpadoinkle day
that and the fact that no one could take on 3 hokages at a time, no matter what
Yeah, that too.
I would have thought that Orochimaru would have prefered the honor of fighting Sarutobi by himself with his own abilities, rather than raising the dead to fight for him. It gives the impression that he couldn't do it himself. But then again, maybe he couldn't. But he always claimed to be able to. Ah, I dunno.
I think I know precisely what I mean
when I say it's a schpadoinkle day
As i said, I've checked the kanji sign on the coffin and it's transelated to "four" or "fourth", It was the 4th hokage, no doubt.
Orochimaru probably could have, after it he summoned the dead - you cant underestimate someone with that ability.
but the 3rd was the god of all nin's, strongest hokage ever so you cant discount that either.
it was more ironic to have him fight the 1st and 2nd then anything, in terms of vengence thats a perfect choice for Orochimaru.
he was overlooked for the 4th hokage spot so he takes revenge on the 3rd by using the previous hokages to kill him.
ah the poetic irony
Plus he wants him to fight his old masters to the death, so he knows how it feels.
I miss that old guy though
I love the voice actors they picked for the 1st and 2nd in the anime, their designs were very cool and I think the scene came off very well, I can't wait to see the fight actually starting to happen!!
Well just think of it this way. If the 3rd never died naruto might of never learned the rasengan. Also we may of never seen Itachi.
Alright the firsy coffin says "first generation" in kanji, the second and third on are 2 and 4 in kanji. Yep so he was gonna summon the 4th like itachi_ said.
if the 4th was summoned there would have been no reason for the 3rd to fight, he would have died no matter what he did
I have one question actually among many...but for now.....If 4th sealed Kyubi inside Naruto. So that would mean either Naruto was on the battle field and he quickly put Kyubi's seal inside Naruto and than had a conversation with 3rd on how to treat Naruto. Or he walked away with Kyubi's soul in himself to Naruto and than performed the seal again on him and transfered the soul from his body to Naruto's and than his soul was taken away....WHY SUCH A LONG PROCESS ? WHY DID THEY NEED TO SEAL KYUBI INSIDE A KID? Why not just take Kyubi's seal inside of him and go to hell...Coz that was the whole point of that Jutsu. If you remember when 3rd finished sealing Oro's hands inside his body....the same seal appeared on his body as Naruto's. So obviously no doubt that its the same jutsu. Second Oro's hands were sealed inside 3rd. So Imagine 4th performing the seal from top of Gamabunta's head than the sould of Kyubi would obviously go inside him...Okay i am just repeating myself....
the 4th probably didnt have enough knowledge to control the jutsu as the 3rd did, also he could have sealed the kyuubi into Naruto because Naruto is pure and wouldnt be tainted by the kyuubi, i think that if he sealed the kyuubi inside of him and he died the kyuubi would just be released again.
I think perhaps the 4th was thinking about the future. Hidden Leaf Village might get attacked by some other demon or some powerful force again. So what better way to counter such a strong force then with a human having the power of Kyuubi under his control?
Sure you got the risk of Kyuubi breaking out, but the advantages probaly outweigh the disadvatages.
i dont think that the seal works that kinda of way, i mean by sealing the power into ur self, nah, so u have to find a container to put in
I also think he was thinking into the future. The thing about the seal is that as naruto becomes older the kyuubis chakra mixes more with his. Maybe it was the fourths intention to have naruto be the next hokage.
what you still haven't answered is that after performing the seal...the soul is sealed inside the person performing the jutsu..and that person's soul is taken away along with the other soul....so why was there a need to seal kyubi inside Naruto...I don't think Hokage was thinking in future.....because at the time of the Kyubi incident they just wanted to get rid of him because he was causing tsunami's with just his tail and he had nine of them....so its hard to believe they had enough time to come up with a plan for future.....they must have just been thinking on how to kill the demon. so i think that takes care of "Future Plan". Next it is possible that since Nine-tails was so huge they probably needed a bigger sacrifice....which they didn't have ...so instead of that trade off they just kept the soul of Kyubi inside Naruto. Plus i think 4th didn't die because of the jutsu...otherwise he wouldn't have the time to seal kyubi inside naruto and than explain the whole hero part to Sarutobi. I think he just died because he first summoned Gamabunta which requires alot of chakra than he probably fought with Kyubi performing high level jutsus and than performing the seal on kyubi....and than performing another seal on Naruto to seal Kyubi inside of him......which probably took alot of Chakra out of him....and its very much possible he got badly injured during the fight and just died.
One of the reason Oro was able to summon 4th because his soul wasn't sealed.
but what really screws up my above theory is that....Oro explained how the summoning works.....the dust covering the body of the summon comes togethar and takes the form of the person....and also for the memory of the summon you don't need the soul....just the information inside the brain ....(the whole dust part)....so basically 1st and 2nd were without their soul but had all their memories.
so another reason why Oro was able to summon 4th.
I don't think that the 4th is "that" much greater then hokage 1st and 2nd and 3rd, you think he's the best because he sealed kyubi, maybe he just mastered the quality of sealing..
Hey has anyone noticed that the 4th looks like Naruto? Maybe they're father and son! *nods furiously*
I agree with the theory that he sealed it in Naruto because he was pure and untainted, it makes sense.
I think I know precisely what I mean
when I say it's a schpadoinkle day
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