Sasuke-> "lee" speed

[_Sasuke_]

it is obviously physically impossible for someone to improve THAT much in "speed" but it's an anime AND SASUKE CAN DO WHATEVER HE WANTS the rock lee fans are just jealous cuz sasuke is like more dangerous than a stampede of hippopotami.


Agree on this post it's an anime, they can do whatever they want, hell what about Kyubi that's cheap too, well I cant win, let's get out the Kyubi chakra. It's the same cheapness Sasuke and Itachi have with their sharingan and even greater they just get b*tched because you guys don't like em

[Uchiha Sasuke]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Pervert&#045;Sennin Jiraiya &#064; Feb 6 2004, 04:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>geez ok, he cant open but lee ll die if he uses that &quot;AGAIN&quot;
</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> replied to this one....


lee will hurt himself if he opens 5 gates yes but he wont die that just happens with the 8th gate. you should do your homework before you starts giving answers. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
i said again and not first time that means thats the second time that he uses that, so it ll prolly hurt a lot/kill him

[PSJ]

i dont bitch aobut the sharingan i bitch about sasukes speed theres no way he can get that speed in a month. and it has nothing to do with his sharingan unless he can &quot;look&quot; his body into better shape.

[Vagabond]

Like a lot of people have mention Sasuke gained the speed but not the endurance. Sasuke can&#39;t sustain the same speed for as much time as Lee can.

[jing]

Well before we get scientific about this muscle growing, we should realize that this is an anime and its not humanly possible to obtain that speed anyways.

[PSJ]

hehe this is actually a manga..... lol and an anime. but if we were to talk about real human potential we can just scrap all discussions in all 3 naruto forums.

[jing]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Pervert-Sennin Jiraiya @ Feb 6 2004, 05:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> hehe this is actually a manga..... lol and an anime. but if we were to talk about real human potential we can just scrap all discussions in all 3 naruto forums. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
so if then ninjas can do ninjutsus, then sasuke can obtain Lee&#39;s speed, this is anime afterall. Muscle growths do not apply =P.

[PSJ]

well sure but we need something to discuss this forum isnt alive enough(or maybe im here to often lol)


well anyway this is my 1600th post saved it for my own thread w00t&#33;&#33;&#33; only 400 to 2000 now.

[Hyuga Koji]

Sasuke got knockoff speed.

He can emulate the effects of Lee&#39;s speed with conditioning and Chakra but he can&#39;t keep the effect for anywhere near as long as Lee can.

Also Sasuke had to bust his ass to even get that far he used the natural talents he had over Lee to get there which is perfectly okay.

Without gates it&#39;ll be a close fight Lee and Sasuke are roughly the same speed and with the Sharingan Sasuke will see Lee&#39;s attacks coming well before they land.

Lee will have to stall him to win easily which i don&#39;t see him doing.

If he uses the 1st gate he&#39;ll be much faster and stronger than Sasuke and the fight will shift to his favor unless Sasuke busts out the seal and then it&#39;s either or.

I don&#39;t see Lee going 3rd gate or higher because Gai and Tsunade would probably forbid it as it wouldn&#39;t be smart at all and Lee would have to be pretty dense to risk his newfound health over a small spat with Sasuke.

If Lee does then we could expect Sasuke to go Level 2 if he acheives it and i have no idea what that&#39;ll improve.

In essence this fight it too close to call definitively for either person

[Insomniac]

he did what took Lee many years to do in such a little time, he was just proving that &#39;theres a wall you cant supass with just hardwork&#39; (dosu&#39;s quote upon beating Lee)

hard work only gets you so far, you have to have at least some talent or something else that&#39;ll help you (ie Naruto has no talent but the kyuubi makes up for that and more)

[PSJ]

its wrong to say that naruto got no talent. thats just unfair. he learned kage bunshin in 1 night and even sasuke was suprised that naruto even knew that skill. it is a high level jounin skill and bunshins were narutos worst skill when he was in the ninja academy. and then he learned the rasengan in 1 week. so to call him a no talent is just not right. and lee has a talent to he can open gates. as kakashi said he is a genius of some sort not everybody can open the gates. but sure a true genius is someone like neji and sasuke. thats also true talent.

[itachi_]

He learned rasengan in a week, for hokage 4th it took a few years.. that&#39;s not reasonable, but fact... 4th:s must have been stronger then naruto&#39;s then.

[PSJ]

yea but it took 4th hokage 3 years to learn it. which would mean that he wasnt a genius and that shows that naruto got a good chance to become hokage. but that wasnt the point in my post, my point was that its unfair to call naruto a no talent guy.

[Insomniac]

no no

baka&#39;s

it took the 4th 3 years TO CREATE IT, NOT TO LEARN IT theres a difference between creating something and learning it.

and yes Naruto has been introduced as the no talent ninja, he doesnt even know any of the basics and his taijutsu techniques are sloppy and show no improvement at all from the start of the series till now.
He may learn stronger moves but thats mainly because of the raw power he holds letting him take shortcuts

if you dont like it tell Kishimoto, hes the one who identifies Naruto as the no talent and its constantly refered to by Jiraiya, Orochimaru and nearly everyone basically.

[Death BOO Z]

it took the 4th three years to create it, not to learn it...

the diffrence in diffuclties is incomparable, saying naruto is a genious and the 4th isn&#39;t is like saying we&#39;re geniouses cuz we learnt to use the forum in a day and the people who invented the PHHP system are idiots cuz it took them 4 months to make it...

it&#39;s about the same, there&#39;s a whole world between learning and inventing...

[PSJ]

in my opinion the part where jiraiya tells anruto about rasengan is vague and possibly bad translated also it says on narutoguide that jiraiya created the jutsu and it does make sense. besides i didnt say that naruto was a genius i said that he has talent and that 4th probably wasnt a genius. look at it this way. 4th was trained by jiraiya, then jiraiya left the village to write novel and training peeping skills lol. if 4th created the rasengan it would have been after jiraiya left probably that makes sense and since jiraiya came back to the village first time when he was helping naruto he couldnt have learned the rasengan from 4th and its not likely that the sensei learns jutsus from his students. what jiraiya tells naruto is that rasengan is 4th jutsu that part is probably translated bad or a part that&#39;s hard to translate it probably says something else and then he says it took 4th 3 yearsa to get from the 1st stage to the 6th stage( there are two stages in each stage, understanding it and then do it). form what it looks like jiraiya knows this jutsu like his own pocket and it is not likely that 4th taught it to him. i dont even jiraiya would take himself time to learn a jutsu his student created if it wasnt a perverted jutsu.

[PSJ]

well this kinda have bothered me alot when in the chuuunin prelims sasuke was a snail compared to Lee&#39;s full speed. a month later sasuke have the same speed Lee had without weights. this seems a bit too cheap even if he is a genius muscles are mucsles and it took lee years to get that speed there is no way in hell that sasuke can get it in a month. i dont care what body condicions he got its still impossible.

feel free to talk about anything else conrecning sasuke exept &quot; i hate sasuke&quot; and stuff like that. you can post those posts in &quot;the i hate sasuke topic&quot; which exists in the open discussions forum made by me.

[Raven]

It&#39;s because the Uchiha clan are so outstanding, they have exceptional learning abilities. Sasuke is a genius. But still, it&#39;s cheap I know, the fact that Lee put in so much hard work.

[Hotsuma]

The fourth created the Rasengan @ idiotic people who think it took him 4 years to learn it. Would somebody who takes 4 years to master a single jutsu, really be Hokage-material?

[Mut]

the rasengan was created by tayuya, k thanks.