Haku V.S. Shikamaru

[HokageSama]

also remember that Haku didn't want to kill Sasuke and Naruto. he just delayed it as much as possible. naruto used kage bunshin to help sasuke see haku's movements. perhaps it was never been defeated before because haku didn't waste anytime in killing whoever was inside the ice mirror.

[SilentSnake]

shika is not so slow... temari is so fast that tenten couldn't see her, shika lying on the ground escaped her attack easily, after all he ALSO trained for a month like everyone else in the chuunin final exam. but that on the other note.

I believe shika would come up with something and it would be like "ahh.... kage mane no jutsu finally succeded"

[Nara Shikamaru]

ah so much people doubting shikamaru.. yet i agree because haku is amazing. but now that i think about it shikamaru after the war will have to become a chuunin i mean cmon i know he's lazy but he makes a great leader(i know im going off topic >_&gt so much thought into one little thing!*ahem* my prediction u heard it here on gotwoot forums >_> i think shikamaru/sasuke will become chuunin. but im more sure of shikamaru because sasuke's match was stopped. (sorry went off topic agains )

[Destiny]

Haku would win for sure, no competition there. If he wanted to finish it off quickly, he wouldnt give the time for shikamaru to devise a strategy over the mirrors.

[The_Fourth]

I think Haku would win. I also got the sensation that it was a pointless thread.

[Hotsuma]

Itachi. You have a bad-ass sig.

Anyways. Shikamaru would win. Because Haku is already dead. Therefore, Shikamaru wins by default.

[NarutoOtaku]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Assassin @ Feb 4 2004, 02:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (NarutoOtaku &#064; Feb 3 2004, 10:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Assassin

First of all, that is his ultimate move. Do not compare his with the Chidori or any other technique that may seem stronger. That is the case. And besides, all techniques require Chakra. The more extreme the move... the more Chakra it uses up, perhaps. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
well then his ultimate move isn&#39;t so ultimate. besides, i wasn&#39;t comparing it with anyotehr move, i was just saying that itd not as powerful a jutsu as zabuza made it seem. he said that no one had ever defeated it, and that made it sound like it was some crazy ass jutsu....i just wanted to say that it could be defeated if the rite person came along.

and about the more chakra thing, ya ur probably rite.....gaara&#39;s armor of sand has the same thing....takes too much chakra, so he can&#39;t keep it up for long. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
You dont get it. That is his ultimate move. Each individual has their own signature move. The Demonic Ice Mirror was Haku&#39;s. You&#39;re saying that his technique isnt ultimate just because it uses up a lot of Chakra. Well, the Chidori uses up a lot of Chakra. That doesnt mean that it isnt Kakashi&#39;s ultimate move.

[RoMuLuu]

I&#39;d say Haku would win. He didn&#39;t even try to kill Sasuke and Naruto when they fought. If he wanted to, he could have killed them both in the very beginning, as it took time from Sasuke to get a read on his movements. He aimed to non-critical points with his needles, and he did hit them. So that means that if he wanted, he could have thrown needles to very critical points and hit them.

[Nara Shikamaru]

shikamaru only has one technique it&#39;s his disadvantage against haku. you guys think shika gunna get another move? his dad look kinda strong getting drunk ... hey what if his dad is like a super super lazy ass genius b/c the scene where shika goes to see his dad in a bar is kinda pointless OR IS IT BECAUSE SHIKA&#39;S DAD GUNNA DO SOMETHING BIG....

[Uchiha-Itachi]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Assassin @ Feb 3 2004, 10:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> haku&#39;s so called &quot;ultimate&quot; jutsu wasn&#39;t all that ultimate....if u watch the eps, he says &quot;i can&#39;t keep this up much longer. this jutsu requires alot of chakra&quot; or somethign like that.......so if the user can outlast his jutsu, then they win. granted shika probably doesn&#39;t have enuff stamina (or is even willing) to outlast.....but someone like naruto or sasuke (as they are now) could certainly defeat haku..... </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
That was his ultimate jutsu and TBH he could tear Sasuke appart in a blink of an eye if he wanted too.. just be realistic draw a kunai lightning speed movement and stab the kunai in his head..

But that would make the serie to end to quick for Sasuke

[TeLeKiNeSiS]

well..since that whole ice mirror thing seems to cast a shadow...maybe shikamaru can just get haku like that..and start smacking his hands around the air, and since haku would be inside the ice...that would end up destroying his own ice mirrors, no?

[Fox Fire]

Haku, just because he&#39;s my fav...acually I think shika would come up with something, he is pretty smart....tho he probly would had talked his way out of fighting or something(that lazy bastard ).

[.akai]

Haku would win... definitely.

[r3n]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Krbadass @ Feb 4 2004, 03:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> But then again, the ice casted a huge shadow, so he could just make one huge one. Not only that but he can reflect his shadow off the mirrors. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
meh? reflecting shadows off mirrors. surely he has to be connected to the shadow. and correct me if im a wrong. but u dont get shadows in mid air? shadows are caused by the lack of light on a SURFACE?

[-ANBU-Sasuke-]

Haku will definatly win.

His skill level and ablitiy is way too good.

[Karasu]

well just to end the discussion, throw in a pissed Gaara in the middle and he will kill them both end of story and life goes on.

[spectre270]

<span style='color:blue'>shikamaru isn&#39;t even near the spped of haku and since he never touch to ground or anything else touch by a shadow he would be destroyed in the first round.</span>

[Karasu]

Well without making the thread into something it should not be.. Yeah Haku is far from a looser that cant do anything. But I think if Gaara freaks out the way he did in the Sasuke fight 66-67 and that evil eye thing there I honestly belive Hakus life will end in a couple of seconds.. Said countless of times there has to be something extreem about Gaara otherwise he wouldnt have gotten all the mystery time he has got and all the husch husch talk.. And a normal shinobi like Haku or Sasuke in my oppinion wont win.

And yeah one of them Ura renge hits Gaara took from Lee would probably have if not kill then knock pretty much anyone unconcious.. and when hit the ground at the speed lee punches it would have killed.. Lee mad and in ura renge mode is a dangerous force The fight there was to show off Lee and the awsome power Lee can obtain. And also to hint the resistance of Gaara.. again shown by getting hit by the *crowd goes wild screams* Chidori that is supposed to cut anything bla bla one hit one kill.. didnt work that well..

I dont know what will happen to Sasuke but if he catches up with Gaara he will be in the deeep shiat..

[Pakkun]

Since Shikamaru is weaker then Haku, he would lose. (but Shikamaru is still way more cool then Haku)

[Nautek]

I think Haku would win. Shika is super smart but I think that Haku is pretty smart too, and fast