Will Kabuto change sides?

[Insomniac]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>He has expressed... I wouldn&#39;t call it disgust, but rather a sort of sickened amusement at some of the actions Orochimaru has taken. He doesn&#39;t put Orochimaru on the same pedestal that Kimimaro seems to. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

Kabuto made Kimimaro go after Sasuke, even with his body decaying and sick, remember when Orochimaru said he that he was cruel for doing such things?
Kabuto commits actions just as &#39;sick&#39; as Orochimaru, the only reason everyone thinks that he&#39;ll change sides or is one iota of good is because of his meeting with Naruto - which was ONLY to gain information on them.

Notice later he had the full intention to kill Naruto without mercy

Kabuto wont betray Orochimaru in any sense, although he could be using Orochimaru to get to his goal but he wont physically betray him


as for Kabuto being introduced to Orochimaru through Itachi, Itachi was the reason Orochimaru left Atasuki - hes not a very trusting person and i doubt he would ever trust Itachi.
also Itachi isnt the leader of Atasuki, no where near so i wonder why people keep saying that if its Atasuki based then its something involving Itachi.

[Raven]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Insomniac @ Feb 2 2004, 08:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Kabuto made Kimimaro go after Sasuke, even with his body decaying and sick, remember when Orochimaru said he that he was cruel for doing such things? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Not true. Kabuto then explained that he didn&#39;t order Kimimaro to do anything, but he moved on his own, through loyalty to Orochimaru whom he worships.

[Hatake Kakashi]

Well Kabuto kind of guilted him into doing it. Saying how Orochimaru found a new body, I think it made Kimimaro jealous a bit. So when/if Sasuke somehow comes out of the barrel, Kimimaro might try to kill him.

Then we will see which is stronger, Heaven or Earth.

[Insomniac]

&#39;one of Itachi&#39;s boys&#39;
lol, Itachi commands no one anymore

for all those people suspecting Itachi to be the leader of something we know he isnt because their are higher authorities in Atasuki, if anything Kabuto would be working for them, not Itachi.
Although we have nothing to suggest that Kabuto is in league with Atasuki and the fact that Orochimaru left Atasuki would probably prove that he isnt.
so far we know of no reason for Kabuto to be spying on Orochimaru for Atasuki, unless Orochimaru is one of the higher level demons himself.


infact, not since the early chapters have we seen Kabuto flinch at the thought of betraying Orochimaru.

hes become increasingly loyal, fixing his medicine, offering his body as a vessel, guarding him against Shizune and Tsunade, sucking up to Manda for him, protecting Oro from Tsunades harmful healing, making Kimimaro go get Sasuke for Orochimaru...

i cant see why you&#39;d think he was going to betray him after he went through all that.

[Death BOO Z]

Actually, i have a theory about it...

we already know that Akatsuki is after the nine tails to harvest it&#39;s power, so they&#39;re probably after other demons as well. Orochimaru was one of the Akatsuki members, so it&#39;s possible that he was after demons as well.

my theory is that Oro already got a demon of his own and merged with it (his immortality jutsu, binding his soul to the world, might be becuase he merged with a demon), but when he betrayed them, they decided to take the demon back, so they used one of there &#39;sleepers&#39;, Kabuto and conttacted him through Itachi to make him gain Orochimaru&#39;s trust and get him to a situation where he releases his demon and makes it &#39;catchable&#39;...

after Orochimaru transsfered into the winner of the tournament, Kabuto said that the next chance would persent itself only after a few years. sure, he could mean the chance to take over Sasuke&#39;s body, but it would be too obvious.

Kabuto might not be as young as it seems, it&#39;s possible that he too is using some jutsu to make himself seem young (like tsunde) and he used &#39;dead body no jutsu&#39; to make the medical captian of the leaf to adopt him...

Kabuto is the most mysterious villian guy right now, if he ends up dying like shit, i&#39;ll be pissed off.

[itachi_]

I don&#39;t see why Kabuto is going to switch sides. He&#39;s like that guy in RK that hangs with Shishio, like 100 % trustful.

[Rothman]

I have a feeling Kabuto mite betray Oro since he is such a cunning bastard

[Insomniac]

Oro is like a father to Kabuto.

Kabuto even offered his OWN BODY to transfer into, how the hell do you think hes gonna betray him

[_Sasuke_]

I dont know, but I think Kabuto has his own hidden agenda, he would betray oro in the end, but he won&#39;t go to the leaf, but some project of his own, osmething like that I believe

[Raven]

I think he was only bluffing though, he knew Oro would decline. I still think he has his own agenda.

[sangai]

im startin to suspect that kabuto&#39;s from the grass village

cause in episode 35 or 36 or 37 cant rember whish somewhere in there they show a war scene when hokage is taking and they show them fighting he village of the grass so i just thought maybe hes from there

along with that sceen you see to other summonings that i dont think anyone took notice to cause we did know there where summonings then well i guess we did and didn&#39;t, but there is a dragon like snake but its more dragon like and a big orange blob with a tail

[DDBen]

its been stated he can betray Oro at anytime. I think overall he will eventually betray Oro because in the long run he has never truely stood up and fought for him. He has done a lot of small jobs even protected Oro but he definatly seems to have his own reasons.

Also as a note Kabuto was the adopted son of the top medical ninja&#39;s of the Leaf. So no matter where he was born he&#39;s from the Leaf. Oro is in no way like a father to him he simply took a interest in him and through a yet undetermaned means got Kabuto to follow him.

I&#39;m guessing Oro has someone or something that Kubuto wants and is willing to work for Oro to gain back atleast until he&#39;s strong enough to kill him AND determine its location. I also feel the offer of his body was basically another way to fullfill the contract and say free a younger blood sybling from Oro. Dying in his service is likely the same to him as living until he completes his contract.

[Death BOO Z]

The reason why Oro didn&#39;t change bodies right away was becuase he wanted to wait for Sasuke to come to him, now that he changed his body he can move around perfectly but he needs to wait a few years to transfer his soul again...

Kabuto&#39;s skill in taijutsu is probably the same as naruto&#39;s, nothing special. but he uses Taijutsu to mess with his enemies body...

[Lithonite]

kimmimaro, is not as strong as Kabuto... and i dont i dont believe any of the 5 were @ Jounin lvl with maybe the excption of Kimmimaro. if they were why were the 4 so worn out from fighting 2 kohona jounin, and why is it a group of Genin are making quik work of them one by one; even if the genin are dieing in the process. Not to mention Kabuto stood his own against the 5th- who granted is arguably the weakest of the 3 Sannin, in terms of offensive fighting strength, but still a feat i dont think any of the sound 5 would have been up to. @least not im kimmimaro&#39;s physical condition.

Kimmimaro was sent out by Kabuto, although it was not an order, her was manipulated into going after Sasuke; just as good IMHO.

As for Kabuto, i dont think he could kill Orochimaru, and well i do think its likely he might not always agree with Oro, i dont think he will betray him- he offered himself for the mind/soul switch when Oro condition became critical. no there is some kind of loyalty there, or he is trying ot gain Oro absolute trust- like someone mentions before Oro, isnt absolutely trusting of Kabuto,and is keeping an watchful eye on him @ all times.

[DemonRyu]

WOw. if kabuto is not strong with taijutsu that means his ninjutsu and genjutsu must be amazing.

[PSJ]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lithonite @ Feb 17 2004, 11:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> kimmimaro, is not as strong as Kabuto... and i dont i dont believe any of the 5 were @ Jounin lvl with maybe the excption of Kimmimaro. if they were why were the 4 so worn out from fighting 2 kohona jounin, and why is it a group of Genin are making quik work of them one by one; even if the genin are dieing in the process. Not to mention Kabuto stood his own against the 5th- who granted is arguably the weakest of the 3 Sannin, in terms of offensive fighting strength, but still a feat i dont think any of the sound 5 would have been up to. @least not im kimmimaro&#39;s physical condition.

Kimmimaro was sent out by Kabuto, although it was not an order, her was manipulated into going after Sasuke; just as good IMHO.

As for Kabuto, i dont think he could kill Orochimaru, and well i do think its likely he might not always agree with Oro, i dont think he will betray him- he offered himself for the mind/soul switch when Oro condition became critical. no there is some kind of loyalty there, or he is trying ot gain Oro absolute trust- like someone mentions before Oro, isnt absolutely trusting of Kabuto,and is keeping an watchful eye on him @ all times. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
hmm you said kabuto was beating Tsunade? did you roget she had a phobia during the battle and couldnt stand blood? her body froze when she saw blood thats why he could fight her and he got his ass kicked by naruto. even tho naruto almost died in the process he still kicked kabutos ass.kabuto was lying on the ground spitting blood.


oh and as a side note you dont need to say the 3 sannin since SanNin means three ninjas.....

[Uchiha]

Kabuto can probaly kill Orochimaru now if he wants. Remember Orochimaru can&#39;t use his arms. Kabuto is also really strong he stood his ground againts Tsunande who is one of the strongest in Taijutsu we&#39;ve seen so far and I think taijutsu is Kabuto&#39;s weakest jutsu-style. Here is a quote from chapter 164 that made me think like that,

&quot;Although I&#39;m not that strong with taijutsu...&quot; that&#39;s right before he starts to fight.




Another thing I&#39;ve notice,(I&#39;m slow to notice stuff ) is when Jiraiya,Naruto and shizune appears to help Tsunande. Kabuto thinks this(chapter 165).

&quot;It is bad for even me to go againts two of the three great ninjas&quot;

When I notice that (slow again) i thought he is alot stronger then what he seems b/c if he were much weaker then 1 of the 3 he would never think something like that imo.....

[Insomniac]

why dont people keep up with the latest manga chapters?

ORO CAN USE HIS ARMS AGAIN. HE HAS A NEW BODY OK?&#33;


also how the hell can you think that Kabuto is weak at taijutsu considering he kept up with Tsunade in it?
although his punches might not pack her strength he can certainly keep up with jounin and higher level taijutsu

Kabuto has definately not shown us all he can do.
in that fight he took on Tsunade and &#39;won&#39;, took on Shizune and won, summoned 2 giant snakes and Manda (HUGE SNAKE) then survived a rasengen.
Kakashi gets stared at and goes down (hey its happened twice, Oro and Itachi)

[Raven]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Insomniac @ Feb 17 2004, 08:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Kakashi gets stared at and goes down (hey its happened twice, Oro and Itachi) </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Kabuto probably would too, though, in both those situations.

But yeah, I get what you&#39;re saying.

[Arcn3ss]

uhh...this is sorta off topic ..

How can Orochimaru use his arms again? I am well aware of his new body, but didnt the 3rd rip Orochimaru&#39;s arms from his soul(Orochimaru&#39;s soul) with the god of death? Thus would stop him from using his arms in any body? Cuz the 3rd knew that Orochimaru can change bodies, so he sealed Orochimaru&#39;s soul arms inside his own soul.

Maybe I missed it when i was reading back then, but thats what I thought. He used the seal method, TO SEAL oro&#39;s arms, cuz he couldnt seal oro&#39;s soul completely.

Chapter 137 - pg 15 - 16 - The 3rd sealed Orochimaru&#39;s arms from Orochimaru&#39;s soul. The body Orochimaru was in, you see his hands rot as his soul arms are removed. The 3rd said he was stealing Oro&#39;s Jutsus thus stopping him from using his arms again. So it doesnt make any sense for Orochimaru to have working arms in a new body if it was his soul that his arms were removed. OR <span style='color:red'>Does the arms rot in a matter of time?</span>

o.o someone wanna field that one? I would like to know...