He's already outsmarted her once (in 201) so he'll do it again, he won't lose.
He's already outsmarted her once (in 201) so he'll do it again, he won't lose.
I think I know precisely what I mean
when I say it's a schpadoinkle day
yeah i forgot about that
he will think of something briallnt. he does in fact think a hundred moves ahead. like against temari.
Given the trend that Kishimoto has started with these battles, I'm not certain how Shika's battle is going to go. He seems to have tried to display how the characters are learning and growing even up to now -- by having Chouji, the ever-cowardly back-liner stand up even in the face of death; and having Neji, the destiny-obsessed guy with a superiority complex, admit to and even use his weaknesses in battle. This makes me think that for Kiba's battle, he may have to rely on a deceptive measure to win, and Shikamaru... heck, he might have to learn to go on gut instinct.
i hope that kiba will take his precaution this time and wear a breathing mask
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (moridin @ Feb 1 2004, 05:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I know you meant individually...which is why I listed them individually and did not add "together." Where in the manga does it say he can beat them one on one? If you can present the evidence, I will stop arguing. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
do i really need to back up what i said?
orochimaru: itachi is stronger than i am
and
orochimaru is just as strong as the other sannins. neither one of them is stronger than the other cuz they're suppose to be like rock, paper, scissors.
the end.
EDIT: i'm not saying that itachi can beat them without a sweat, but all i'm saying is itachi will win in a fight against a sannin. anyway, i still don't understand how anyone can think that another character is stronger than itachi. it just baffles me.
naruto can in the future. why are you surprised that itachi would loose to someone. the show is not name ITACHI. eventhough itachi is strong, he will get own later in the series. probably get beaten like a rag doll.
In a fight, its not a simple "I am stronger, I win" thing. Consider Shikamaru vs. Temari...or consider a fight between Naruto and Kidoumaru...Naruto beat Neji so according to your logic, he should also be able to beat Kidoumaru. However, as was shown in the manga, Neji was the ONLY one capable of beating Kidoumaru...because of his Byakugan.
I can't believe you don't even consider the chance that another ninja could be stronger than Itachi.
I don't believe its a gollum, main reason being Oro named it by name calling him the most violent or whatever. Golem's in general are contructs made from various substances the reference as some here said before was the gollum of jewish myth made from sand, it drove away soldiers from the ghetto were the jews were forced to live at the time. Later on when the stop giving the golem commands it flips and starts to destroy things. Besides the other guy doesn't seem to need commands he does things on his own. Hes had that second head on him for some time im guessing its some kinda conjoined twin no jutsu or something..... Btw his father had beaten DW7, the reason i know because im waiting on dw 8 which isn't out yet.... sadly..... For those of you know don't know the art director for those games is Akira Toriyama and DW is also the first NES rpg, even older than ff1. That it for my contribution of random bits of information.
*edit* Something for all you Itachi fans, i found out the other day that apparnetly "Itachi" is jap slang for lesbian.... It means a butch woman by definition.
ok, i'm not even gonna argue this anymore after this post. as stubborn as this sounds, i know that itachi can't be beaten by anyone as of this moment.
kaigan: yeah, no shit naruto will be the strongest in the end and no one is talking about naruto beating itachi later on cuz he won't. sauske will...god...
moridin: it's all about techniques. you're trying to compare naruto's crap-tasitc kage bunshin against neji's moves. it's obvious that it doesn't match. naruto and all the rest of the genins lack many techniques and it's also obvious that someone like kidoumaru can't beat itachi (don't argue this cuz you know it's true). why do you think orochimaru wants sasuke? it's for the sharingan so he can learn all the jutsus and itachi obviously knows tons of jutsus since he's got all these accomplishments in his record to back it up. don't try to state retarded and obvious facts to prove your 'point' cuz it's actually proving nothing.
EDIT: moridin, your should know that your argument is invalid as soon as you compared naruto and neji. naruto cannot lose. he just can't. if somehow, naruto was matched up with kidoumaru (this is if neji vs kido never happened), then kishimoto would've made it that naruto would somehow come out as the winner.
sorry for being so damn off-topic btw.
Itachi is the strongest so far that we know of
for all we know Orochimarus new body could be stronger or Kabuto could be stronger then any sannin - theres no use discussing powers of characters, at any moment they can change.
for all we know Orochimaru could have some ultimate snake transformation mutation thingy or whatever
OK, one more thing and i'm really done.
insomniac has a pretty good point, but i think the guy, orochimaru bodys-wapped with, isn't any better than itachi's cuz if he was stronger, then why would he be captured by orochimaru?
k, i'm really done now.
mental and physical strength are two completely different things
also Itachi knows about the cursed seal when he looked at Sasuke 'the seal is unraveling' i wonder how he knew what a cursed seal was - even if he was in Atasuki they're teams of 2 and Kabuto was Orochimarus teammate so Oro and Itachi wouldnt have been close
Are you sure Kabuto was Orochimaru's teammate? I think he was in Konoha undercover for his whole life.
I think that Orochimaru had another team mate instead of Kabuto.
Their are 9 of them, so that would mean one of them didn't have a partner. I always assumed the head of the organization wouldn't have one. I don't know how the organization is now since he left and they are back to 8, unless they got another person to join.
Itachi might be the strongest character but doesnt mean its unbeatable... Just look at a sports ladder, the number 1 team doesnt always win and given game... same applies... This series is defiently not about Stronger = Win ... we have many characters to proove that... any how... the next chapter is gonna be good
hm for some reason i've got to think that there are more than 8 members in the akatsuki. The reason i think this is because when itachi is in konoha he says that there are higher ups in the akatsuki. So some of them must not be volunteers, someone must have planed it from the beginning. Also this proves that there is some stronger than itachi (I know you were talking about characters that have been introduced) because if they wasn't as strong as itachi than why would itachi be taking orders from them. That is unless they have some hold on itachi.(something like blackmail) Another weird thing. Read these scan from the manga. Kakashi and jiraiya refer to someone as "that man". Its not oro or itachi because kakashi says its the ninetails. I dunno itds confusing but just read it and tell me what you understand from it.
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I think those pages were badly translated, because all of it is just jibberish.
That man that they are talking about at the beggining is Orochimaru.
When they are talking about the Kyubi, they are saying how Akatsuki wants to get it. It is one of the things that they are after. Hence why Jiraiya is going to keep an eye on Naruto.
What manga group did that? I have that scan too and I guess there were a lot of LQ Naruto scans during this time, before Inane came out.
its N-G. I know its really bad translations but for some reason I can't stop thinking that they are saying something important. ahh its fucking with my headProbably nothing though.
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>moridin: it's all about techniques. you're trying to compare naruto's crap-tasitc kage bunshin against neji's moves. it's obvious that it doesn't match. naruto and all the rest of the genins lack many techniques and it's also obvious that someone like kidoumaru can't beat itachi (don't argue this cuz you know it's true). why do you think orochimaru wants sasuke? it's for the sharingan so he can learn all the jutsus and itachi obviously knows tons of jutsus since he's got all these accomplishments in his record to back it up. don't try to state retarded and obvious facts to prove your 'point' cuz it's actually proving nothing.
EDIT: moridin, your should know that your argument is invalid as soon as you compared naruto and neji. naruto cannot lose. he just can't. if somehow, naruto was matched up with kidoumaru (this is if neji vs kido never happened), then kishimoto would've made it that naruto would somehow come out as the winner.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
First: Of course it's all about techniques. What do you think I was saying when I stated that in Naruto, just because A can beat B and B can beat C, A can beat C. I did not "state retarded and obvious facts" to prove my point. I was "obviously" providing a counterexample (big word...you understand it?) for the argument you employed in the following post.
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>do i really need to back up what i said?
orochimaru: itachi is stronger than i am
and
orochimaru is just as strong as the other sannins. neither one of them is stronger than the other cuz they're suppose to be like rock, paper, scissors.
the end.
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Now let's disect your argument. "why do you think orochimaru wants sasuke? it's for the sharingan so he can learn all the jutsus and itachi obviously knows tons of jutsus since he's got all these accomplishments in his record to back it up." Total red herring there. You go from my argument, we'll call it Janken analogy to simplify it, to why Orochimaru wants Sasuke to "proving," as you seem to believe that Itachi knows "tons of jutsus." Now it says Itachi is talented, agreed, and that he is a genius, agreed, but Orochimaru has been around for what...mmm 50 years? One thing you also seem to have forgotten is Orochimaru is also a "genius." Now if we want to state assumptions as facts, I would say Orochimaru knows more jutsus than Itachi, but we're not doing that right? Good. Next point. "You should know your argument is invalid once you compared Naruto and Neji. Naruto can't lose." Funny, it seems my argument was perfectly illustrated by the Naruto and Neji comparison. Of course Neji has better techniques than Naruto, and obviously, Neji is the "genius" in this case. Now according to your argument, again from the post above, Neji should have beaten Naruto. The fact that Naruto is the main character does not nullify this argument. If anything, it highlights how much Kishimoto enjoys the whole idea that stronger does not equal a win. Now you did not even address Shikamaru vs. Temari. Temari has the better techniques and she has multiple ones and yet she lost, in every sense except for the technical outcome of the match. Now the only proof you have so far introduced in support of your "facts," is a statement by Orochimaru that Itachi is stronger than him. I'm sorry if I don't accept that one thing as the be-all, end-all of evidence.
about tho jewish golem story, here's the version that i know
it takes place somewhere in the 15-16th hundred, at some europian country...
the story goes like this, there was a rabi and he was supposed to protecet all the jews from Anti-sementizem and pogroms, so he took a human shaped lump of stone and wrote god's true name on top of it and the word truth ("AMET" אמת) on it's chest, the golem was used to check whatever merchendize which was sent to the jewish 'getho' and uncover what the chirstian tried to sneak in (mostly babies bodies, to incourge the belief the jews used babies blood to bake Matzot on passover). The Rabi earesed god's name from the gollem each weekend, so that the gollem won't work over Saturday, until one week he forgot to do it and the golem went on a rampage becuase he was a sin (doing work over Shabat), so the Rabi earesed the first letter of the "AMET" (Truth) and ledt him with "Met" (Dead) so the golem collapssed and died.
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I just thought of something funny while re reading chap 202
On the last page play "Where's Naruto?" can you find the real one?
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