The only way Sasuke is coming out of the barrel is by his own free will now. I think that somehow he will overcome this coma and break free of this barrier jutsu as well.
Then he and Naruto will kick the shit out of Kimimaro, then fight each other.
The only way Sasuke is coming out of the barrel is by his own free will now. I think that somehow he will overcome this coma and break free of this barrier jutsu as well.
Then he and Naruto will kick the shit out of Kimimaro, then fight each other.
Barrel.. at worst, Sasuke will die. But then, he'd deserve to, because of the code of Konoha..or any village. He betrayed his home, therefore, he should die. Not dissing Sasuke or anything, but objectively, that's what is supposed to be happening.
How the hell did this get from about Shikamaru to the most recent happenings in the manga, specifically the barrel and Kimimaro?
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You do realize that you are in the Naruto Manga section of Got Woot right?
I'm just talking about the topic of the thread.... somehow we started talking about the barrel and Kimimaro when we're supposed to be talking about whether or not Shika is worthy of the chuunin rank.
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I'm just saying stuff like this happens a lot here..but if you want to get back to Shikamaru.
He deserves it, he proved it during the exam, when the council picked him to be promoted, I think they know what they are doing better than a bunch of rabid Neji, Shino, Naruto, and Sasuke fanboys on a message board.
Also, he has done the best with what he had to work with recently in the Pursuit Arc, he should continue to do well as a Chuunin.
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hatake Kakashi @ Feb 5 2004, 02:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> He deserves it, he proved it during the exam, when the council picked him to be promoted, I think they know what they are doing better than a bunch of rabid Neji, Shino, Naruto, and Sasuke fanboys on a message board.
Also, he has done the best with what he had to work with recently in the Pursuit Arc, he should continue to do well as a Chuunin. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I wholeheartedly agree.
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Lets just think about what chuunin level means. From what we've seen of chuunins in an actual fight (Iruka/Mizuki) they are pathetically weak. Can you imagine if Iruka was taking the chuunin exam the same time Naruto and co. did. If by some miracle his team made it out of the forest of death then he would have been slaughtered by almost anyone he faced in the prelims. Forget the fact that he would have had no chance against any of the finalists. Therefore, strength is not a significant requirement for becoming a chuunin.
I don't think anyone would deny the fact that physically Shikamaru is weak. He did prove his intelligence and analysis skills however and this is why he is now a chuunin.
Unfortunatly for Shikamaru, unless he gets alot stronger, he will never become a jounin since you definitly need both intelligence and power to achieve that rank.
We don't know anything about Iruka, though. For all we know he could be a weak fighter but brilliant tactician who simply decided to settle into a teaching job, similar sort of person to Shika. I can see Shika becoming a teacher, because there wouldn't be any physical labour involved.
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</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (CmDr_RavEn @ Feb 5 2004, 04:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> We don't know anything about Iruka, though. For all we know he could be a weak fighter but brilliant tactician who simply decided to settle into a teaching job, similar sort of person to Shika. I can see Shika becoming a teacher, because there wouldn't be any physical labour involved. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
That is exactly my point. Intelligence alone is not enough to go beyond the chuunin level, just as power alone is not enough. You must possess both.
But aren't you also saying that it's hard to believe that Iruka made it to chuunin level considering the exam? He probably just got through the same way that Shika did. Shika doesn't have power, but he still made it. It's probably the same with Iruka.
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No I'm saying that unless they go through some drastic changes, chuunin is are far as either of them will go. I do think they were both lucky to get through the chuunin exam considering that it seems to favor the nins who rely more on brute strength than intelligence. Can you imagine if Shikamaru had to fight someone like Lee or Neji or Gaara during the prelims. He could not have won any of those fights and thus he would not have had the opportunity to show his talents to the observers in the finals therefore he would not have become chuunin. This is also why Shino doesn't deserve to be a chuunin. The fighters were not being judged for becoming chuunins in the prelims only in the finals. But since Kishimoto fixed the outcome of everything by being the one who wrote the manga, things pretty much went as he saw fit.
Considering how brilliant he is as a strategist, there's a possibility that he may have come up with ways to beat them. I can't think of any, but that's his job, he's the genius after all. He said that in battles he does plan 100 moves ahead. We'll have to wait and see how well he does against Tayuya.
And anyway, who says that either of them actually WANT to become jounin? Both of them are probably content as they are.
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</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (CmDr_RavEn @ Feb 5 2004, 05:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Considering how brilliant he is as a strategist, there's a possibility that he may have come up with ways to beat them. I can't think of any, but that's his job, he's the genius after all. He said that in battles he does plan 100 moves ahead. We'll have to wait and see how well he does against Tayuya.
And anyway, who says that either of them actually WANT to become jounin? Both of them are probably content as they are. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I don't know about Iruka, but I'm pretty sure Shikamaru wouldn't want to become a jounin. That would be too troublesome.
Yeah, I agree. So the problem will probably never arise, it would be too big of a plothole for Kishimoto to work around. And Iruka seems to be happy as a teacher, seeing as he seems to have done it for a few years at least.
*EDIT* Maybe if they do a timejump, Shika will already be a jounin, therefore it never gets explained how he actually manages to get promoted - if strength is indeed required of course, which I think it is.
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