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  1. #41
    Kimimaro's going to kick Kyuubi Naruto's ass down to Chinatown. (Meet the parents)

    If Naruto fought using his own power from the start, and maybe figure out Kimimaro's jutsu secrets, then use Kyuubi chakra, things might be better for him, but since he's using the Kyuubi chakra from the get-go, it's pretty obvious that he's not going to win.

    If, by chance, he does win though, it'd be a really big waste of a cool character that just got introduced.

  2. #42
    </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (CmDr_RavEn @ Jan 24 2004, 09:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Insomniac &#064; Jan 24 2004, 08:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>how do you think Sasuke would counter if Naruto was to summon Gammabunta? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

    thats if though, Naruto usually gets those little frogs first off too, i&#39;m not sure that Gamabunta will fight Sasuke considering Sasuke is so small compared.
    Gamabunta usually comes out when theres a huge demon about </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
    I&#39;m talking about a hypothetical battle though. I don&#39;t think Naruto would ever get the little frogs again because he&#39;s learnt properly how to control his kyuubi chakra at will.
    Let&#39;s say Gammabunta will fight for Naruto no matter who or what he&#39;s fighting. In that case, I think it would be difficult for anyone to compete against him unless they could summon something of a similar size and strength. There&#39;s not much a single 6 ft person can do against a giant super strong toad no matter who they are.

    Don&#39;t worry, I&#39;m only thinking aloud really..... just trying to imagine the battle... not that it would ever happen of course, Gammabunta would never fight in the story..... I&#39;m just thinking hypothetically.... </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
    I&#39;m thinking Kimimaro can handle even Gamabunta. When that fat Sound ninja (he sucked so much that I forgot his name) fought against the supersized Chouji, he somehow made him change back. Now, obviously,Kimimaro is way above the fat ninja&#39;s level. But then, Gama Bunta is considerably more powerful than large Chouji... so, the question really is, who&#39;s level of power is higher than the comparision..

    Fat sound ninja VS Kimimaro
    Large Chouji VS Gamabunta..

    I&#39;m thinking Kimi.

  3. #43
    Nevermind about the first part.
    Anyways I wish Kimimaro would have a more important role too but in the end we all know he is gonna die.

  4. #44
    </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Insomniac @ Jan 23 2004, 09:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>He&#39;s gonna win, he&#39;s the main character. Get used to it.
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    is that why he beat Orochimaru in the forest of death and stopped him from putting the seal on Sasuke, oh wait... he didnt
    geez i thought he was the main character and would win&#33; lol
    main characters DO have you to lose sometimes to keep the plot interesting, all narutos been doing lately is winning. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
    Naruto lost in the forest of death, as did Sasuke for two reasons. 1) It was to establish how bad-ass Orochimaru was, he took out Kyube Naruto with very little effort, and then took out Sasuke (Who we know, working together, were able to exhaust and take out someone said to be far beyond Jounin level). 2) It was to introduce the main bad guy and antagonist for the next while.

    Now, Kimimaro works for Orochimaru, so he won&#39;t win to show he&#39;s the next big baddy. Also, it&#39;s been told to us several times that Kimimaro is an incredibly bad-ass ninja, as he was only bypassed as a body for Oro because 1) no sharingan and 2) sick, we know he must be incredibly uber.

    So now what we have is this. 1) Barring this fight ending with Naruto dying and calling out to Sasuke for help (doubt that&#39;ll happen) or more likely, Naruto losing and getting up saying he promised Sakura-chan he&#39;d bring Sasuke-kun back which causes Sasuke to remember whats truly important and wake up (Again, I doubt that, as it would make this whole arc fairly pointless) there is no reason for Naruto to lose to Kimimaro.

    My call is that Naruto beats Kimimaro, maybe barely, he is an uber ninja after all. Then, after he beats Kimimaro, Sasuke comes out of the barrel and tells Naruto to piss off before he vanishes to go and do his thing alone.

  5. #45
    </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (jing @ Jan 24 2004, 12:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> naruto will be beaten, unfortunatel, and sasuke will try to help naruto because he still has abit of kindness and friendship with naruto. furthermore, sasuke will obliterate kimimaro and leaves naruto. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
    Heh, I&#39;d say Sasuke would help naruto just because it would be a way for him to gloat that he saved Naruto and just go &quot;See, I AM better than you&quot;.

    If Sasuke saves Naruto, I&#39;m sure on SOME level it&#39;d be out of friendship, but primarily, or conciously, it&#39;ll be to show that he is still the Elite Ninja and Naruto is still the loser.

  6. #46
    The reason Naruto went into Kyuubi form is because he is in a state of heightened emotion, most likely because he cares greatly for Sasuke.

    Look at every time that Naruto has gone berserk.

    -Sasuke presumed to be dead while fighting Haku.
    -Sasuke being attacked by Orochimaru&#39;s giant snake.
    -Sasuke being taken to Orochimaru.

    The Kyuubi mode is to show that to Naruto, this has become a VERY important situation. Even moreso now that he&#39;s on his own without Shikamaru to lead or Kiba to back him up.

    On a slightly different note, is anyone here dying to see a Red Chakra Rasengan?

  7. #47
    </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (itachi_ &#064; Jan 24 2004, 06:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Seijuro Hiko isn&#39;t as strong as kenshin when kenshin have learned amakkaru ryou sen or what it&#39;s called, the ultimate attack within the hiten mitsugiri style </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
    Nah, Hiko is much stronger than Kenshin throughout the entire series. When Kenshin used the Succession technique on Hiko, it worked because Hiko only used the Kuzu Ryu Sen. When they both used the Kuzu Ryu Sen, Hiko&#39;s was stronger. He explained to Kenshin that it was because of body strength, weight, and speed, which Hiko was way above Kenshin in all those areas. The only way to counter his Kuzu was the succession technique which is nothing more than a Battou-jutsu sword drawing strike, leading with the left leg. Hiko was even able to beat the giant, Anji, rather easily. Something Kenshin would not be able to do.

    Trust me I have read all the manga volumes, and at the end Kenshins body starts to suffer from using HMR, because he doesn&#39;t have the muscles and abilities that Hiko has.

    Face it Hiko ownz Kenshin, and everyone else in the manga. I dont count that damn Shimabara Arc in the anime, because it doesn&#39;t take place in the manga. The manga has the Revenge Arc with Enishi, which is 10X better.

    Back to Naruto -

    If Naruto summons Gamabunta, it would be pretty cheap. If he summoned one of the medium support frogs, like Jiraiya did in the hallway against Itachi, I wouldn&#39;t have a problem with that. But..Naruto has no control over his chakra, it is either a miss or a huge hit. If he summoned a medium one, then perhaps that could act as a support unit for him and a few Shadow Clones. Now that he is in his Kyubi mode he should have a lot of chakra to spare, plus he will most likely heal faster.

    We haven&#39;t seen him like this since the Forest of Death, and there Orochimaru had to put the seal on him. Naruto just goes nuts when he&#39;s like this so there is no telling what can happen.

    Kimimaro is a bad ass uberninja who is sick, but for all we know Naruto has similar lineage(Yondaime, Jiraiya, etc), and he has a demon inside of him. I have to say photo finish.

  8. #48
    im thinking sasuke will defiantly interupt the fight.
    kimimaro will nail naruto and then sasuke will come out and stop kimimaro form kiilling him. naruto will try and convince sasuke not to go.
    i believe sasuke will go to orichimaro because kabuto said ori cant take over sasuke&#39;s body for another few years because he had taken over that gaara/naruto-looking guy.
    i reckon this was done for the story, so it gives naruto and the gang a few years to try and get sasuke back to the leaf.

    just my thoughts

  9. #49
    </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (SDShamshel @ Jan 24 2004, 02:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> The reason Naruto went into Kyuubi form is because he is in a state of heightened emotion, most likely because he cares greatly for Sasuke.

    Look at every time that Naruto has gone berserk.

    -Sasuke presumed to be dead while fighting Haku.
    -Sasuke being attacked by Orochimaru&#39;s giant snake.
    -Sasuke being taken to Orochimaru.

    The Kyuubi mode is to show that to Naruto, this has become a VERY important situation. Even moreso now that he&#39;s on his own without Shikamaru to lead or Kiba to back him up.

    On a slightly different note, is anyone here dying to see a Red Chakra Rasengan? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
    almost to the of drulling for it. or even the shadow clones with kyubi charka which he hasnt did yet. i wonder would a kyubi-naruto shadow clone vanish with a strong hit like his normal clones do. with all this points being made i can see naruto not fighting kimi at all just leting his clones wear him down for the kill.

    off topic i still believe kyubi has some influcence over naruto because ever since kyubi charka emered naruto been craving a good fight one after another.

  10. #50
    my current inclination now that oro has a new body lends me to believe that indeed sasuke will go to oro, because since oro cant change bodies for a few years you can have some arcs where he is a sound ninja and his partner in crime will be kimimaro. Obviously theyve hyped up his character to keep him around for awhile, so while naruto will probably either win or take the advantage in this fight, i think both kimi and sasuke will survive. Then we will be able to see the reprecussions of them failing a mission, and naruto losing his best friend, and the needless sacrifices made, namely choujis probable death(BECAUSE NEJI IS ALIVE DAMMIT&#33;&#33;&#33 thatll change the dynamic of the story pretty well cause it would set up a similar situation to jiraiya and oro.

  11. #51
    hmm is it just me or does it seem that there is a unsaid rule in the manga that no one can actually watch when Naruto fights and owns.

    because of that it kinda gives me the impression it&#39;ll be somthing like garra fight as far as the magnitude of it taht is coming up

  12. #52
    Yeah if Neji did indeed die, they would zoom into his forhead and show the Swatstika Type Curse Seal on his forehead disappearing.

    I don&#39;t think Chouji is dead either. I think he took what little bit of Chakra he had left and Henged into a butterfly or something like that.

  13. #53
    i think the kyuubi naruto vs. kimimaro fight is going to be good, and probably end like the naruto vs. gaara fight does; with Naruto being completely wasted, and probbaly kimimaro about the same then dying. then sasuke might leave on his own or be takin by something else; but who knows he he. and naruto is due in for a loss soon, but i dont think hes going to get completely owned by kimimaro---

  14. #54
    Yeah its not like Naruto is a weakling. Kabuto wondered whether Sasuke or Kimimaro was the stronger among the two. Naruto would have beaten Sasuke if Kakashi hadn&#39;t jumped in. So if Kimimaro is more towards Sasuke&#39;s level, then I don&#39;t see the big deal here about this fight. Although I am sure Kimimaro is stronger than Sasuke, since they wouldn&#39;t go to all of this trouble to have Naruto beat the crap out of someone pretty quick, like what would have happened with Sasuke.

  15. #55
    this is what I think 1.) Naruto wins and defeats his apponent... Sasuke gets out and defeats Naruto who is already tired from his fight with the other guy. Sasuke makes his decision... whatever it may be
    or

    2.) Naruto is about to die... Sasuke saves Naruto and comes back to Konaha (I&#39;d really like that to happen.)

  16. #56
    we know for a fact that Sasuske HATES it when Naruto saves him, every time he does he just grows deeper and deeper anxiety to what hes going to do to beat Itachi

    if Naruto saves Sasuke then Sasuke will try to kill Naruto, no matter what - remember that fight just before Sasuke was approached by Kakashi
    dubbed the &#39;chidori vs rasengen&#39;

    if Sasuke acknowledges Naruto then hes lost his reason to live because Sasuke cannot acknowledge that Narutos become stronger, because that acknowledges that Sasuke is weak... and to him he lives only to beat Itachi - that&#39;d be a massive blow to him

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    I think Kimimaro&#39;s gonna die. Sure, he&#39;s a cool character who just got introduced, but remember Haku?

    Haku - Real pretty boy.
    Kimimaro - Real pretty too.

    Haku - Advanced bloodline.
    Kimimaro - Advanced bloodline too.

    Haku - Was able to defeat anyone he wanted.
    Kimimaro - So far, it seems he can defeat most people as well.

    And now its Kimimaro vs. Kyubi Naruto.
    My bet is he&#39;s gonna die, but not before largely damaging Naruto too.

    &#39;Sides, I insist.... Naruto&#39;s gone Kyubi now, but not berseker. Not yet...

    無理してここまでやってきて これからもすっと同じだろう
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  18. #58
    like I said... I&#39;d perfer my second choice...

  19. #59
    </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Delirium &#064; Jan 24 2004, 01:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Insomniac &#064; Jan 23 2004, 09:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>He&#39;s gonna win, he&#39;s the main character. Get used to it.
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    is that why he beat Orochimaru in the forest of death and stopped him from putting the seal on Sasuke, oh wait... he didnt
    geez i thought he was the main character and would win&#33; lol
    main characters DO have you to lose sometimes to keep the plot interesting, all narutos been doing lately is winning. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
    Naruto lost in the forest of death, as did Sasuke for two reasons. 1) It was to establish how bad-ass Orochimaru was, he took out Kyube Naruto with very little effort, and then took out Sasuke (Who we know, working together, were able to exhaust and take out someone said to be far beyond Jounin level). 2) It was to introduce the main bad guy and antagonist for the next while.

    Now, Kimimaro works for Orochimaru, so he won&#39;t win to show he&#39;s the next big baddy. Also, it&#39;s been told to us several times that Kimimaro is an incredibly bad-ass ninja, as he was only bypassed as a body for Oro because 1) no sharingan and 2) sick, we know he must be incredibly uber.

    So now what we have is this. 1) Barring this fight ending with Naruto dying and calling out to Sasuke for help (doubt that&#39;ll happen) or more likely, Naruto losing and getting up saying he promised Sakura-chan he&#39;d bring Sasuke-kun back which causes Sasuke to remember whats truly important and wake up (Again, I doubt that, as it would make this whole arc fairly pointless) there is no reason for Naruto to lose to Kimimaro.

    My call is that Naruto beats Kimimaro, maybe barely, he is an uber ninja after all. Then, after he beats Kimimaro, Sasuke comes out of the barrel and tells Naruto to piss off before he vanishes to go and do his thing alone. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
    Remember that naruto also had that five element seal that restricted his chakra stream. He probably could have done a better match right now, because of rasengan and gamabunta.

    Edit:
    </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> think Itachi is a cool character, but he falls into the &quot;ultra super strong&quot; character type. This character type appears in most manga, they are the type that are so strong, that they can&#39;t do a whole lot with them until the main characters get more towards that level. Seijuro Hiko in Rurouni Kenshin is a good example of this, but there are more such as Tawara Bunischi in Tenjo Tenge</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

    Seijuro Hiko isn&#39;t as strong as kenshin when kenshin have learned amakkaru ryou sen or what it&#39;s called, the ultimate attack within the hiten mitsugiri style

  20. #60
    I think naruto uses kyubi chakra at first. Kimimaro will still beat him.
    Then Sasuke will get up and call naruto a loser.
    After that naruto will go kyubi crazy (haku fight) and kill kimimaro.
    Naruto will be so shocked that he killed someone for the first time and how evil he is in kyubi mode that he cant get sasuke back to leaf and sasuke will go to the sound, saying something I&#39;m sorry naruto but I need to get stronger one way or another to kill Itachi. It doesnt matter to me if its not right my only goal in life is to kill Itachi and in the end we will fight someday to see who is stronger.

    Naruto will return in shock to konoha, because he killed someone and that kyubi can make him really crazy.

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