Eps 66-67

[rleland]

alot of people miss the point that just because you're strong doesn't mean your lame
i.e. "sasuke is so strong" is not a valid counterargument to "sasuke is lame"

other than that this has also been discussed to pieces lol

[Viet-Elite]

That last part of the episode was interesting when they were launching the "Plan"

[Karasu]

Correct.. I think the discussion should stop with that.. Different ppl like different chars in the series, it's as easy as that ..

It's their techniques that makes the different chars cool.. Everyone is cool in their own way.. You either like it or you dont.. Hate Gaara all you want but dont underestimate him just cause he dont use alot of jutsus. Same thing with Lee Dont underestimate him just cause he cant use any jutsus.. All Genins in the show are kids.. everyone of them will evolve eventually and become probably aloot stronger/faster/smarter and whatnot during the series Im pretty sure of it..

Just look at Naruto. Sasuke is still superior to Naruto as a Shinobi without his Sharingan activated.. But just as Lee, Naruto works pretty hard and dont give up. So Naruto will probably become a pretty decent shinobi when he grows some more.. He still has a pretty awsome amount of his own chakara.

[KevKoN]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rEkKaShInObI @ Jan 18 2004, 11:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> o yea, the sasuke copy lee gig, he cant copy it because he was in the hospital and didnt even see lee fight, and he was out with kakashi while lee was in the hospital. so whatchu guys talking about? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
ok maybe you didnt watch the anime before the exam actually started because sasuke fought lee and lee whipped his ass. pay more attention to flashbacks and shit before you make yourself look like a noob.

[rEkKaShInObI]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (KevKoN &#064; Jan 19 2004, 03:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rEkKaShInObI &#064; Jan 18 2004, 11:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> o yea, the sasuke copy lee gig, he cant copy it because he was in the hospital and didnt even see lee fight, and he was out with kakashi while lee was in the hospital. so whatchu guys talking about? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
ok maybe you didnt watch the anime before the exam actually started because sasuke fought lee and lee whipped his ass. pay more attention to flashbacks and shit before you make yourself look like a noob. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

why dont u shut the hell up and PM me instead, when he was fighting lee before the final exam he didnt take off his weights so basically lee didnt show off his full speed for sasuke to copy. you got owned.

[Assertn]

well.....it was lee&#39;s STYLE that was important.....not witnessing the speed that he moved....if sasuke can master lee&#39;s style, then getting that speed is just a matter of physical exercise

[Destiny]

Yeh, spose yer right.
I mean anyone can obtain speed if they work on it. It&#39;s not even an ability, but simple physical characteristic. During his training, Sasuke pictured Lee&#39;s speed as a goal, and i guess he reached it.

[Grey_wolf]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>saske ran so gay </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

Yeah well naruto farted so gay,Naruto danced so gay, Naruto acted so gayish in certian EPS

You found an EP when sasuke runs funny.. suddenly he is gay..

I would like to see you run that fast in a cool way

[Uchiha-Itachi]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DB_Hunter @ Jan 19 2004, 03:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Sasuke isn&#39;t the strongest Genin in Konoha, if you are trying to say he can beat everyone else. He still can&#39;t beat Rock Lee, but he seems to be giving Gaara a kicking because he knows how to do Jutsu. Chidori would be useless against Lee is Lee opened his gates again... he would just dodge it. I would say though that Sasuke MAY be the best all round fighter now, though he isn&#39;t used to the taijitsu yet and he runs out of breath quite quickly, whereas Naruto, even though it has yet to be seen if his Kyuubi speed is as fast as Sasuke/Lee&#39;s speed, does not run out of breath because he uses chakra to give him that speed. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I think Naruto is the strongest Genin of Konoha

He might act like a baka, but in combat he just pwnz period.

[rEkKaShInObI]

Grey_wof, karasu, and rleland are all correct on their posts, guys should listen to them more often.

[itsgalf]

yah, I agree with DB_Hunter

Gaining Speed is a matter of how hard and how much time you work at it. It doesn&#39;t matter if he&#39;s a genius, I don&#39;t see how he can become as fast as Lee in 1 month when it took Lee years to gain that speed...and we&#39;ve all seen how hard and how much Lee worked at it.

[Grey_wolf]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rEkKaShInObI @ Jan 19 2004, 05:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Grey_wof, karasu, and rleland are all correct on their posts, guys should listen to them more often. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
mm yeah true.. just get so annoyed.. try to find stupid excuses to call someone.. bah screw this&#33;

everybody got his own opinion.

[Aegis Runestone]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rEkKaShInObI @ Jan 19 2004, 02:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> sasuke built up stamina over the month, so hes kicking ass&#33;&#33;

and naruto always needs kyubi now. why cant he just win matches without him?

some people have time to complain about how fast sasuke is and how hard he didnt work n crap like that. well look at naruto, he became faster and stronger then neji in 2 seconds&#33;&#33; if u have time to complain about sasuke, reflect back at naruto.

Being a shinobi isnt about playing fair, its about being strong, </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I think you are missing the point of Naruto learning to control Kyubi. That&#39;s a MAJOR accomplishment and it does show that Naruto is strong&#33; I don&#39;t see why you should complain about Kyubi, frist off, remember that Neji WOULD have beaten Naruto if Naruto had not used Shadow Replication and dug underground, leaving a replication behind to trick Neji into thinking he won. So if Naruto hadn&#39;t been clever like he is in most of the episodes, he would have lost, even with Kyubi&#39;s power.

Second off, I agree, Sasuke is an awesome character and he kicks rear. I&#39;m Pro-Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura and just about everyone else except the villians. Both Sasuke and Naruto have their strengths, IMO, Sasuke is stronger right now, but I could be wrong. Personally I agree that it&#39;s unfair to complain about Sasuke so much, considering he took a major beating from Oro(which at that time, Naruto was stronger). In any case, I hope it comes to a point where Naruot will fight Sasuke, but until then, I&#39;d like to see them work together again like they did against Zabuza.

[rEkKaShInObI]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Aegis Runestone @ Jan 19 2004, 05:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rEkKaShInObI &#064; Jan 19 2004, 02:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> sasuke built up stamina over the month, so hes kicking ass&#33;&#33;

and naruto always needs kyubi now. why cant he just win matches without him?

some people have time to complain about how fast sasuke is and how hard he didnt work n crap like that. well look at naruto, he became faster and stronger then neji in 2 seconds&#33;&#33; if u have time to complain about sasuke, reflect back at naruto.

Being a shinobi isnt about playing fair, its about being strong, </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I think you are missing the point of Naruto learning to control Kyubi. That&#39;s a MAJOR accomplishment and it does show that Naruto is strong&#33; I don&#39;t see why you should complain about Kyubi, frist off, remember that Neji WOULD have beaten Naruto if Naruto had not used Shadow Replication and dug underground, leaving a replication behind to trick Neji into thinking he won. So if Naruto hadn&#39;t been clever like he is in most of the episodes, he would have lost, even with Kyubi&#39;s power.

Second off, I agree, Sasuke is an awesome character and he kicks rear. I&#39;m Pro-Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura and just about everyone else except the villians. Both Sasuke and Naruto have their strengths, IMO, Sasuke is stronger right now, but I could be wrong. Personally I agree that it&#39;s unfair to complain about Sasuke so much, considering he took a major beating from Oro(which at that time, Naruto was stronger). In any case, I hope it comes to a point where Naruot will fight Sasuke, but until then, I&#39;d like to see them work together again like they did against Zabuza. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
you could be right. but can naruto really control kyubi? or does kyubi just want naruto to live long enough so he can find a way out?

[Naruto-god]

I think Naruto is very strong. Remember in the beggining of naruto when he could do clone technique right. After he got mad when his teacher was about to die he broke the seal on his body. This cause naruto&#39;s chakra to flow regularly. Because the seal seal kyubi&#39;s chakra and cause naruto&#39;s chakra to not flow right so he couldn&#39;t really control it. Lol thats all i have to say. Even without kyubi naruto still learns hot moves in the future.

Sasuke , Rock lee, Neji , shikamaru, kid with the dog never could remember your name., and even Fat Choji later on your the man all of yall.

[Harageki]

dont wanna turn this into an anti-sasuke thingie, but...

The use of sharingan is to copy stuff, of course..but something thats wierd is he trained sasuke in taijutsu to give him awesome speed for the chidori (as Gai/kakashi say). Why would you have to learn taijutsu specifically to increase your speed? 0-o...taijutsu is martial arts, hand to hand combat, defending yourself with fists/feet/etc...increasing your speed is completely different really. Are Track runners martial artists? also...Sasuke didnt need to use any of his taijutsu in the beginning; he was just showing off his stolen skills and being his usual arragont bee-atchy self. He could have used chidori from the beginning, or even some other jutsus..he knew Taijutsu alone couldnt defeat Gaara, so whats the use on pounding on him for a bit? all it accomplished was him looking good and Lee feeling like crap. But I guess he`s only doing whats in his nature &gt;_&gt;

[Aegis Runestone]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rEkKaShInObI @ Jan 19 2004, 06:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Aegis Runestone &#064; Jan 19 2004, 05:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rEkKaShInObI &#064; Jan 19 2004, 02:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> sasuke built up stamina over the month, so hes kicking ass&#33;&#33;

and naruto always needs kyubi now. why cant he just win matches without him?

some people have time to complain about how fast sasuke is and how hard he didnt work n crap like that. well look at naruto, he became faster and stronger then neji in 2 seconds&#33;&#33; if u have time to complain about sasuke, reflect back at naruto.

Being a shinobi isnt about playing fair, its about being strong, </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I think you are missing the point of Naruto learning to control Kyubi. That&#39;s a MAJOR accomplishment and it does show that Naruto is strong&#33; I don&#39;t see why you should complain about Kyubi, frist off, remember that Neji WOULD have beaten Naruto if Naruto had not used Shadow Replication and dug underground, leaving a replication behind to trick Neji into thinking he won. So if Naruto hadn&#39;t been clever like he is in most of the episodes, he would have lost, even with Kyubi&#39;s power.

Second off, I agree, Sasuke is an awesome character and he kicks rear. I&#39;m Pro-Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura and just about everyone else except the villians. Both Sasuke and Naruto have their strengths, IMO, Sasuke is stronger right now, but I could be wrong. Personally I agree that it&#39;s unfair to complain about Sasuke so much, considering he took a major beating from Oro(which at that time, Naruto was stronger). In any case, I hope it comes to a point where Naruot will fight Sasuke, but until then, I&#39;d like to see them work together again like they did against Zabuza. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
you could be right. but can naruto really control kyubi? or does kyubi just want naruto to live long enough so he can find a way out? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
That&#39;s true too, what is Kyubi up to anyway? &gt;.&gt;

[fishfish]

this episode sucked.. in terms of animation..
compare this episode with the ones with lee vs garra.. big difference..

manga is much betta than anime in this part..

just my opinion..

[Iznogoud]

Ok as you all saw it, he was ALMOST as fast as lee without his weights...
BUT his body won&#39;t allow him to use that very long...Lee can do it without being tired, since he trained so much, and always wear weights&#33;
I&#39;ll also add that Rock Lee can open 5 gates, which makes him even faster and stronger and sasuke cannot.
I think rock lee still kicks ass and he would wipe sasuke&#39;s ass...
Well of course sasuke has other jutsus but i don&#39;t think he&#39;d be fast enough to use them against lee.
Gaara was the worst possible matchup for Lee, he would have pwned Neji, Shikamaru, Temari, kankuro, naruto, Shino and well every other genin.
Well of course if you don&#39;t think about kyubi, with it naruto really kicks ass ^^
@uchiha itachi: I think sasuke would beat naruto with just taijutsu...

[kimunist]

what...

first, the animation of 66-67 was MUCH better than 65...and it was very close to the animation of the rock lee vs gaara eps...

and i dont know why people would think just because sasuke has the sharingan that he is cheap, or if naruto uses kyubi&#39;s chakra hes not that strong...seriously

they had to learn to use and control such horrific (in potential) powers...i mean...not everyone has the courage to ask the demon fox to lend him his powers, right?

as for sasuke, his sharigan and abilites are very strong in the sense that not only does he have potential to become very strong, it also requires him to train and practice very to hard to master them

(notice he only has 2 things in each eye when there should be 3)

as for the kyubi...

hes stuck inside naruto because of the seal, and he cannot get out...

so while hes at it, he might as well make sure his owner can fight and kill his oppoent, or else he dies too...

kyubi doesnt want to die, so he has to help naruto...

its a lose-lose situation for him really.