</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (jing &#064; Jan 10 2004, 02:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Jing

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>yes kakashi was careles..... he said so himself, that he got trapped in his stupid water prison. n he said he used up too much chakra cuz of sharingan, he needed to recover. even now i think neji woulda owned zabuza, or gaara woulda owned him, even rock lee with his gate speeds. they all these guys are gennins. kakashi who fought zabuza the second time, he ANNOUNCED he was going to end the fight, and he did almost right away. he had control and he knew it. water prison was careless of him.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

Insomniac

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>even when Kakashi announanced that he was ending the fight and stabbed Zabuza, disabling his arms - Zabuza was still able to kill all those hired people and Gattou, with just his kunerai in his teeth.
You&#39;re obviously missing that Zabuza was a master of silent killing, the mist allowed him to override the sharigan which means he could have easily overridden the Byakugan - which makes Neji useless.
now for Gaara, Gaaras personality would have been so offensive to Haku that he would have actually killed him instead of being kind, Gaaras sand is slow and couldnt have caught up to Haku&#39;s movements.

even Gaara probably wouldnt beat Ebisu in a fight, theres a HUGE gap between jounins and genins, there arent genins as strong as jounins with the exception of Kabuto (Kabuto compared to Haku and Naruto is far stronger)

Haku wasnt as strong as a jounin, only his demonic ice mirror jutsu was, that doesnt make him automatically jounin level. Most jounins could kill him before he does the seals to execute the techinque</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>the sharigan was meant to have been able to as well.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

itachi_

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>But Byakugan has a &quot;blind-spot&quot; </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
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Jing, at that point of the anime... not many of the characters that were introduced... had their skills developed. Most likely they were stronger than Naruto was at that point but against Zabuza or Haku... they couldnt have beaten Zabuza or Haku so easily.

Insomniac
You are forgetting the ability of the Byakugan and, therefore, underestimating it. Neji, the genius of the Hyuuga Clan, has the ability to see 360 degrees. Even if he couldnt see 360 degrees he could still see the majority of the area and thus, giving him a chance to counter Zabuza&#39;s attacks. Though it would be a small chance because the difference level of a Genin and a Jounin is extremely large.

What you said about Haku killing Gaara at the spot may be correct if that actually happened.

But to say that Haku wasnt at a level as that of a Jounin may be incorrect. You see... Zabuza told Kakashi that Haku&#39;s level was also above Zabuza&#39;s. If that was the case (and it is) then Haku&#39;s level was indeed that of a Jounin even though he is not an official one.

The Sharingan&#39;s ability is different than the Byakugan. Both of Byakugan and the Sharingan are completely different besides the fact that Sharingan originated from the Byakugan and it is in the eyes.
Right to the point, the Sharingan can not see through anything. It can not see through mist nor wall nor body.

itachi_

Although your theory does not relate our debate I am curious to what you mean by the &quot;blind spot&quot;