Going to murder Sasuke..

**OshadowO** · Fri, 01-02-2004, 02:38 AM

making the obvious observaton...sasuke's the anti-naruto. They're two characters on different extremities. naruto is easy to love because he's funny, works hard and he's a good guy. By the same token Sasuke's easy to hate because he's dark, from the looks of it willing to sell his soul to the devil for more power and he's not exactly a nice guy (putting people down etc)
so why should anyone be surprised over all the hate he gets.
He's a cool complex character, the type who is fun to hate-atleast for me.

**Hotsuma** · Fri, 01-02-2004, 03:27 AM

The same thing could be said about Naruto and Kyuubi. We all know Kyuubi is way more evil than Oro could ever be, and there Naruto is, tapping power from it. From everything we've seen so far, though, the cursed seal is actually a little more forgiving than the Kyuubi's power. In every case we've seen, the user has full control over the sudden boost. Naruto can STILL be controlled by the sheer power of Kyuubi.

**Death BOO Z** · Fri, 01-02-2004, 04:09 AM

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hotsuma @ Jan 2 2004, 02:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> The same thing could be said about Naruto and Kyuubi. We all know Kyuubi is way more evil than Oro could ever be, and there Naruto is, tapping power from it. From everything we've seen so far, though, the cursed seal is actually a little more forgiving than the Kyuubi's power. In every case we've seen, the user has full control over the sudden boost. Naruto can STILL be controlled by the sheer power of Kyuubi. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
a few points, concerning the nine tails demon.

A. he's about as evil as an earthquake can be evil, we don't know much about him, and from what we do know, he's more of a nature force than a of a demon. We use 'nine tailes demon fox' while jap ppl use "kyubi' becuase he's part of their culture, and not necsicrally in an evil way, just like a phoinx isn't evil from a westren point of view.

B. actually, the Curse seal and the Kyubi power seem to go reverse.
Curse seal: you almost die, burst of power, you almost die, the power starts eating you to death.
Kyubi Chackra: you almost die, the power burst saves you from death, and each time you use it you control it more.

sure, it's not immpossible that using the Kyubi chackra weakns the seal of Naruto, but it's only speculations, and in fact, Orochimaru (who has no motivation to get Naruto to use the kyubi power) says that the power is mixing with he's own chackra.

So, to make myself short and clear. Oro and his curse seal are more 'evil' than the Kyubi chackra.

**Mut** · Fri, 01-02-2004, 04:15 AM

rofl, this is too funny. all these lee fans and sasuke haters gettin all mad cuz they finally realize how much of of a piece of trash lee really is. lee trains for years and sasuke just goes off for a month or so and has equal or better taijutsu abilities than lee. ahahaha. is lee dead yet?

**Legendary Nin** · Fri, 01-02-2004, 04:24 AM

I say its time for some people to start looking up to a real sharingan user.I don't know,maybe someone like Itachi.Sasuke is only a genin,Itachi was already the captain of the Anbu squad.I say its time to forget about Sasuke.

**Legendary Nin** · Fri, 01-02-2004, 04:25 AM

Curse seal=suicide.Sasukes power is coming at a very expensive price.Will he be able to pay the price to play is the question.

**Uzumaki Naruto** · Fri, 01-02-2004, 04:39 AM

yes where do we sign up to kill sasuke, hate that copy nija so much just a hunch but who thinks that when sasuke grows up hes going to be the other copy ninja of the village u know just like kakashi

**hyuga_hinata** · Fri, 01-02-2004, 04:46 AM

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (OshadowO @ Jan 2 2004, 01:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>making the obvious observaton...sasuke's the anti-naruto. They're two characters on different extremities. naruto is easy to love because he's funny, works hard and he's a good guy. By the same token Sasuke's easy to hate because he's dark, from the looks of it willing to sell his soul to the devil for more power and he's not exactly a nice guy (putting people down etc)
so why should anyone be surprised over all the hate he gets.
He's a cool complex character, the type who is fun to hate-atleast for me.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I think this sums it up pretty well.

There are characters made for us to like and those we are meant to hate.
To an extent, Sasuke seems to fall in the 'Characters to hate' category... to me anyway...

it may be vice-versa for some ppl...

**Nine Tailed Demon** · Fri, 01-02-2004, 05:01 AM

Good, not one

Vegeta=Sasuke
Goku=Naruto

Comparison.........OH SHIT!!

**Death BOO Z** · Fri, 01-02-2004, 05:25 AM

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nine Tailed Demon @ Jan 2 2004, 04:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Good, not one

Vegeta=Sasuke
Goku=Naruto

Comparison.........OH SHIT!! </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
not really, Sasuke and Naruto have parts of both Goku and Vegita inside them, it isn't that simple.

Vegita always trained to be able to keep in par with goku and to pass him, but in the end he was always saved by goku time after time, like how Naruto was in the start, and even now.

Everybody is always expecting Goku to come and save the day, while Vegita is always second class, and even when he did something, almost nobody cared. Everyone always look forward to see how Sasuke kicks ass, and almost nobody gave a damn about the Naruto Neji match.

The main reason that i hate Sasuke for is because I know, that if I would have met him in reallife, i would still hate him. it's hard to pinpoint what i hate the most about him, it's more becuase of his whole attitude combined...

just one last thing, about Sasuke equaling Goku.

Goku's weakness was his tail, so he trained it and made that weakness vanish, he didn't use some startegy or anything to cover up for it, he just dissed his weakness away.

Sasuke's weakness was high speed Taijutsu, so he traind for one month and dissed it away, while getting even more annoying..

**Insomniac** · Fri, 01-02-2004, 05:59 AM

Lee was never much more then a struggling character

his sole purpose in Naruto was to struggle, once it seemed that he was winning Kishimoto introduced a new struggle for him

Basically Sasuke copying his techniques got rid of Lee's usefulness as a fighter - we wont see him fight again.

**Mut** · Fri, 01-02-2004, 06:48 AM

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Death BOO Z @ Jan 2 2004, 04:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Goku's weakness was his tail, so he trained it and made that weakness vanish, he didn't use some startegy or anything to cover up for it, he just dissed his weakness away. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
i believe goku's tail was cut off by his guardian (the old man who took care of him) when goku turned ape. i don't think he made his 'weakness vanish.'

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Is this even worth replying to? I hate trash like you the most. The person before has structured a well formed, logical arguement with points. You come here and say something you obviously know is gonna start something off. Maybe other people ignored it, but it annoys me to see such stupidity...I`m not even going to bother making a counter arguement, to be honest.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

hey, i hate trash like YOU the most and i will make a counter argument to what you said. what the hell did i do wrong? it's freaking clear that sasuke possesses far greater abilities than lee and i made that point. it may have been stated in a way you didn't like, but why don't you go attack the guys who has called sasuke, 'sasugay' or whatever and about sasuke's being 'arrogant', 'bitter', and such. get off my back you a-hole.

**Harageki** · Fri, 01-02-2004, 07:12 AM

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (dazzz @ Jan 2 2004, 05:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Death BOO Z @ Jan 2 2004, 04:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Goku's weakness was his tail, so he trained it and made that weakness vanish, he didn't use some startegy or anything to cover up for it, he just dissed his weakness away. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
i believe goku's tail was cut off by his guardian (the old man who took care of him) when goku turned ape. i don't think he made his 'weakness vanish.'

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Is this even worth replying to? I hate trash like you the most. The person before has structured a well formed, logical arguement with points. You come here and say something you obviously know is gonna start something off. Maybe other people ignored it, but it annoys me to see such stupidity...I`m not even going to bother making a counter arguement, to be honest.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

hey, i hate trash like YOU the most and i will make a counter argument to what you said. what the hell did i do wrong? it's freaking clear that sasuke possesses far greater abilities than lee and i made that point. it may have been stated in a way you didn't like, but why don't you go attack the guys who has called sasuke, 'sasugay' or whatever and about sasuke's being 'arrogant', 'bitter', and such. get off my back you a-hole. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
`but why don't you go attack the guys who has called sasuke, 'sasugay' or whatever and about sasuke's being 'arrogant', 'bitter', and such.`

huh? I dislike sasuke, why would I stick up for him? if you mean why didnt I attack the guy who defended sasuke from those points, its because he had a good, well formed arguement...I respect that.

Bleh, sorry if I came off a bit angry, its just that you coulda expressed your point a bit...better? not just saying `has he died yet` or whatever. It makes you seem a bit immature..but anyway, sorry bout the sharp retort, I`m normally not that bad

**DeathscytheVII** · Fri, 01-02-2004, 07:28 AM

Actually, Sasuke during the Chuunin exams was pretty cool, i started resenting his character when he ran off.

Kakashi just gave him a huge speech about how he sympathizes with him and how if he continues to go that path it will destroy him, he downright ignores him and goes off with oro, indirectly killing genins like Chouji and Neji who risk their skins to save him.

I also begin to wonder whether he is going after Itachi for himself or for his family that was killed by Itachi, Not once during his encounter with Itachi did he say anything about his parents. Its all "You made my life hell" and "I hate you" crap. Naruto at least repects him and treats Sasuke as an equal, but then again this is unacceptable for him isn't it? The elite Uchiha? What happens when he sees that even Naruto is stronger than him? He cheats and takes a pill to make him stronger.

So yes, Sasuke is a selfish brat and continually chooses not to face facts and probably doesn't even know where the hell he's going or where he is for that matter..

**Hotsuma** · Fri, 01-02-2004, 08:09 AM

We don't even know if Neji is dead. He probably isn't, though.

Second, why would Sasuke re-emphasize on Itachi killing the family, when he was the one who did it? "I hate you.. you killed our family!" See how useless that last part was?

Also, before the entire Itachi ditching him and saying "It's not you, we're after. It's Naruto", Sasuke was amazed at Naruto's growth. Not once, did he envy or feel insecure about himself. Throughout the rest of the series, he was looking out for Naruto, like a team-mate. AND he saved his life, multiple times.

He's not taking the pill, to become stronger than Naruto. He's doing it, because when Itachi told him he was nothing, he only felt more insecure about himself.

**Harageki** · Fri, 01-02-2004, 09:04 AM

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Okay, before I get back to defending Sasuke, I just have to say: that stuck up, Arrogant, and selfish, are basically the same thing.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

Your right >_>` but heck, I needed more words to enforce the point...so shoot me. Anyway, you make some good, logical points there..nice, tho I still dont like sasuke in the slightest.

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>rofl, this is too funny. all these lee fans and sasuke haters gettin all mad cuz they finally realize how much of of a piece of trash lee really is. lee trains for years and sasuke just goes off for a month or so and has equal or better taijutsu abilities than lee. ahahaha. is lee dead yet? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

Is this even worth replying to? I hate trash like you the most. The person before has structured a well formed, logical arguement with points. You come here and say something you obviously know is gonna start something off. Maybe other people ignored it, but it annoys me to see such stupidity...I`m not even going to bother making a counter arguement, to be honest.

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>There's always the possibilty that the entire purpose of kishimoto creating a character like lee was solely for sasuke to copy him. ::runs from the angry mob of lee fans:: </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

Thats exactly what I was thinking. Thats what annoyed me so much..its like they needed some way for the `cool guy` to have awesome taijutsu, so take it off some loser, cripple him, and all set, full steam ahead. Its so annoying...

**Sasuke's Goddess** · Fri, 01-02-2004, 09:59 AM

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (RockLeeisHOT @ Jan 2 2004, 08:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I dislike sasuke... but my intent to kill him won't happen until it's established that chouji and Neji are ACTUALLY dead. if they died trying to bring back his sorry ass, I'll never forgive him. I don't care HOW MUCH kishimoto loves Sasugay </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Oh my God, did you not even read my post. Well if you didn't I'll quote a little part that your post relates to.

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I'm sick of all this 'Sasgay' stuff. (Which by the way is VERY offensive. What the hell is wrong with being gay exactly. It has two meanings; To be happy, or liking the same sex. Explain to me why you use this term for a character you don't like.)</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

I'm not trying to tell you what to do, but 'Sasugay' not only offends me but perhaps others on this board. To me that is like saying (now this is just an example): "Hey niger" to a African American. It is totally offensive.

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Sasuke's goddess - You freakin' rule.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

Thanks.

**Insomniac** · Fri, 01-02-2004, 10:08 AM

just like to say again

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Basically Sasuke copying his techniques got rid of Lee's usefulness as a fighter - we wont see him fight again.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

Lee is only still in the series now because of his large fanbase but he doesnt have a big importance anymore

Sasuke is Kishimotos favourite character btw

**Hotsuma** · Fri, 01-02-2004, 10:11 AM

Sad to say, but you're gonna have to get used to it. This board is infested with Naruto fanboys, who cock-ride the overhyped Kyuubi form, and ride off any new idea of innovation that Kishimoto might apply to Narutos fights.

Can't beat them? Use Kyuubi, I say!

**RockLeeisHOT** · Fri, 01-02-2004, 10:51 AM

I dislike sasuke... but my intent to kill him won't happen until it's established that chouji and Neji are ACTUALLY dead. if they died trying to bring back his sorry ass, I'll never forgive him. I don't care HOW MUCH kishimoto loves Sasugay

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