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Tue, 12-30-2003, 02:37 AM
#21
ANBU Captain
I bet the people who don't believe Kimimaro is strong, are the same idiots that thought he was some kind of Battle Royale.
Look
The Sound 4 say that Kimimaro is stronger than Sasuke, after they whoop on Sasuke.
Kidoumaru says that he hadn't been beaten up so badly since he was whooped by Kimimaro, during the Neji fight.
Kabuto believes that now Sasuke and Kimimaro are on the same level.
You have to remember now that Sasuke is going to be a lot stronger since he has gone level 2. Not as strong as Naruto since he has the raw power of the Kyubi, but still.
EDIT: That page of manga you posted has no relevance at all. And is it just me or was the art a lot better back then?
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Tue, 12-30-2003, 03:00 AM
#22
Genin
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Reason @ Dec 30 2003, 06:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Some perspective...
As for this whole "Heaven vs Earth" seal thing, I believe its referring to how they were brought to the service of Orochimaru...
In other words, Sasuke`s mind was targeted by Orochimaru, using the `Heaven Seal` and Kimimaro's Body was targeted with the "Gaia/Earth Seal" because he was so strong...
Could also mean Sasuke was hit with the Heaven seal because he is a "genius" and Kimimaro was hit with the Gaia/Earth seal because he is not...etc etc etc...
Also, I believe we are going to see Konoha vs Sound here, sound will be beaten down, then Kimimaro will show up, and it will end up with Naruto vs Kimimaro, but it will end in a stalemate between the two, and Sasuke will end up with Orochimaru...I dont think Sasuke will wake up until he reaches Orochimaru.
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Wow... cant believe you remembered stuff from all the way back regarding Heaven and Earth.
It could once again be Kishimoto's plan. I must say kishimoto is good.
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Tue, 12-30-2003, 03:40 AM
#23
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>That page of manga you posted has no relevance at all. And is it just me or was the art a lot better back then?</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
But of course it does...it gives you a guide...I could be right, or I could be wrong. Its all speculation until its released... Its usually a good idea to use parts of the story to understand later events...especially when the author is giving them to you...Plus, it makes sense, to a certain degree...I am sure there are other parts not revealed to me that are about to be through the Anime...and those would probably support my argument...
Heaven seal was used to undermine Sasuke and use his mentality of revenge against him, so I assume the Gaia thing was used on Kimimoro to undermine him via his body...etc.
But like I said, I could be right, I could be wrong...nothing is written in stone until we find out from the source itself...
Of course, I will probably be waiting a bit longer, since I am following the Anime...Been spoiled on enough things already, Also, I believe it looks better because its a Toriyama World scan,
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Tue, 12-30-2003, 06:12 AM
#24
yeah but what about those that recieved oro's seal besides the ones that are his container? Anko also has a heaven seal, and i dont think they even show what types of seals the other 4 sound nins have
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Tue, 12-30-2003, 07:54 AM
#25
Some perspective...
As for this whole "Heaven vs Earth" seal thing, I believe its referring to how they were brought to the service of Orochimaru...
In other words, Sasuke`s mind was targeted by Orochimaru, using the `Heaven Seal` and Kimimaro's Body was targeted with the "Gaia/Earth Seal" because he was so strong...
Could also mean Sasuke was hit with the Heaven seal because he is a "genius" and Kimimaro was hit with the Gaia/Earth seal because he is not...etc etc etc...
Also, I believe we are going to see Konoha vs Sound here, sound will be beaten down, then Kimimaro will show up, and it will end up with Naruto vs Kimimaro, but it will end in a stalemate between the two, and Sasuke will end up with Orochimaru...I dont think Sasuke will wake up until he reaches Orochimaru.
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Tue, 12-30-2003, 08:26 AM
#26
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>he didnt say he was as strong, he said he hadnt been this close to losing since Kimimaro, doesnt say much though because Kimimaro was one of the '5' sound nins with spidey and could have been taking it easy
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I think it was
"I haven't been this close to death since Kimmimaro" According to the Inane Translation. I think Kimmimaro is also a powerful guy, perhaps as powerful as Sasuke if not more.
MmmMmm. Ooiiishiii
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Tue, 12-30-2003, 08:50 AM
#27
Jounin
yeah the other 4 sound nin have pretty weird seals, maybe Gaia?
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Tue, 12-30-2003, 09:36 AM
#28
Mist Lord
why not gaara vs kimimarro, may he becomes a good guy after naruto fixed him up. since he was much like kimimaro anyways. how about that? maybe gaara comes n rescues naruto cuz hes getting his ass kicked
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Tue, 12-30-2003, 10:24 AM
#29
Jounin
err, Gaaras far from a good guy
he said sorry to his brother and sister not to Naruto, he still wants to kill him.
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Tue, 12-30-2003, 10:49 AM
#30
ANBU Captain
Gaara is a lot closer to becoming a good guy, than he was, prior to his fight with Naruto. People who fight against Naruto learn a lot about kindness and all that other mumbo jumbo.
I reiterate - People give the Kyuubi WAY too much credit. Yeah, it's badass and all, but is it always going to be a 100% working trump card? No.
Here's what I'm probably seeing. (I didn't read this thread yet, btw)
"This next guy looks pretty strong. Oh well, that's ok. Naruto has Kyuubi. He'll surely win!"
See what I'm getting at? Give the new guy some credit, before shutting him out and saying he'd lose.
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Tue, 12-30-2003, 11:41 AM
#31
Jounin
yeah most people think that Naruto will beat Kimimaro which i think is totally wrong
Naruto may beat the sound nins but Kimimaro will show up and make short work of them, leave with Sasuke and Sasuke will come out
Kimimaro will try to kill Sasuke but Sasuke will kill him and make his way to Orochimaru to be trained
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Tue, 12-30-2003, 01:46 PM
#32
ANBU
Didn't spider guy say that Neji is as strong as kimimaro? if so then theorically speaking naruto wouldn't have any problem wif kimimaro. since naruto wooped neji ass before learning rasangan. but i bet u some crap is gonna happen like... gaia seal not turns life energy to chikra so kimimaro will get a massive power boost and then naruto will get injured... everyone else is gonna go and get their ass wooped... then sasuke comes out and then its gaia seal vs heaven seal. and ofcorse heaven seal will win since Gaia means earth if im not mistaken and heaven woops earth!
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Wed, 12-31-2003, 02:57 AM
#33
ANBU Captain
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Insomniac @ Dec 30 2003, 11:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> yeah most people think that Naruto will beat Kimimaro which i think is totally wrong
Naruto may beat the sound nins but Kimimaro will show up and make short work of them, leave with Sasuke and Sasuke will come out
Kimimaro will try to kill Sasuke but Sasuke will kill him and make his way to Orochimaru to be trained </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Seriously, man. What's the point of introducing a new character, only to have him lose his first actual fight? That's pointless.
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Wed, 12-31-2003, 03:10 AM
#34
Mist Lord
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Insomniac @ Dec 30 2003, 09:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> err, Gaaras far from a good guy
he said sorry to his brother and sister not to Naruto, he still wants to kill him. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
gaara seems like he learnt something from naruto. did he not.
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Wed, 12-31-2003, 07:26 AM
#35
Genin
mt Theory is that the name of the guy which won the Battle Royale is Kimmimarro (or however it is spelled) and orochimaru gave him the Gaia seal.. and then he was going to make kimmimarro get to level 2 and then take him over, but then Oro met sasuke. i think in ep 199 that Kabuto is watching a video tape from something which already have happened.
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Thu, 01-01-2004, 02:41 AM
#36
Jounin
it doesnt look like the same guy at all
and Kabuto said Orochimaru is now in a body that doesnt allow transfer for another few years, which means hes not in Kimimaro and took the other guys body (lets call him OroX for now lol)
as for Kimimaro, hes been built up during the whole arc and you guys think he'll lose to Naruto? geez
if anyone it'll probably be Sasuke that beats on him when the genins have failed and Kimimaro decides to test his existance
also some people give Gaara too much credit as for 'learning' stuff, i'm sure hes still going to go around killing people, maybe even training up more just to kill Naruto - he was killing people as a child even though he didnt want to remember? its not something he can just stop
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