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Thread: Is Kakashi the strongest jounin in the leaf??

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    ok, i don't know where i heard this, but i remember someone saying kakashi knows the most jutsu in the leaf, does this mean he's the stongest jounin? if not who?

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    ..I`m not really sure ..

    in this site its says that he is known around the world for his incredible powers

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    wah 10 views, 1 reply, u rock anbu girl
    yeah i read the site, and i already know all this, but im still wondering is he the strongest in the leaf, or is it gai? i think everyone else should be under kakashi's level, maybe apart from gai. ohh yeah another thing, is anbu memebers jounins as well, or higher/lower?

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    I have the feeling Hyuuga Hiashi is stronger than Kakashi and Gai. While both are very powerful, there's the matter of Hiashi posssessing the strongest Leaf Taijutsu, and just basically at the moment being an ultra-powered Neji.

    I mean, did you SEE the size of his Kaiten?

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    I would say Kakashi is one of the weaker Jounins,he isn't that strong.If anything,he is pretty weak.

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    Remember how Kabuto killed all those anbu guarding Sasuke? And Kakashi and Kabuto are supposedly equal level so I'm guessing anbu are just your "run-of-the-mill" chuunin and jounin and Kakashi is a top but not "the" top ninja.

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    i think we only know enough to make assumptions about the jounins so far, am i wrong? we haven't really seen many, if any, fight all out. Hopefully we get some facts sometime

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    Anbu are jounins that specialize in a certain field,that being Leafs top squad.Kabuto is stronger than Kakashi imo,he pretty much was beating the shit out of Tsunade,and she is hokage.If Kakashi was near such a strength,why wasn't he even considered for becoming the 5th hokage.If you've only watched the anime so far.then you have reason to believe he is strong,but he really isn't.Itachi tossed Kakashi away like Kakashi was tossing Naruto in the Genin exam.Maybe that was being too generous,he wasn't even worth Itachi's effort,not like he put any in on jounin like Kakashi.

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    just for everyone that doesnt know, Orochimaru Tsunade and Jiyaira are all jounins.
    so no Kakashi isnt the strongest jounin.

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    first off, Sennin isnt an official military rank. Jiraiya is a Sennin, Orochimaru and Tsunade are not. Sennin, just means Hermit ie, wise man etc...

    the Sannin are offically Jounin rank. well, Tsunade now isnt. Jiraiya and Orochimaru arent part of Konoha anymore...

    and for those who are mistaken, knowing 1000 jutsu does mean you own. if someone specialises in one type of jutsu for example Neji, it will be hard for them to counter someone who realises their weakness. therefore having a variety of jutsu means you have better choice in different situations. bigger variety of jutsu = more ownage

    Kakashi is the "copy ninja" he know how to counter an attack. Because he knows more than 1000 jutsus. But Gai who is good at hand-to-hand combat can defeat kakashi with less problems than others, because sharingan can't see the movements of hand-to-hand combat. So i think that kakashi is the best jounin in leaf "overall"


    i really dont want to dive into another Sharingan vs Taijutsu discussion, but, Sharingan does own every type of jutsu, Taijutsu/Ninjutsu/Genjutsu. it can predict and copy Taijutsu, it can counter and copy Genjutsu, and it can copy Ninjutsu and show the person a jutsu's weakness. and anyway, Kakashi seems to have the same level of Taijutsu as Gai since he was able to teach the same Taijutsu to Sasuke in a month.

    Copy Ninja Kakashi >> all

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    If Gai is stronger than kakashi ,I dont think that he will keep feeling jealous from him.. he is better than him thats why Gai feels jealous

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    Maybe Shikamarus dad is stronger? we dont know, cant really make the statement 'strongest' jounin in the leaf when we havent seen enough of the other jounins.

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    they wernt Kages till recently.

    Their official titles were jounin, Orochimaru is only a kage to the sound village, hes not an official kage.
    Tsunade is only recently a kage and Jiraiya is still a jounin

    Kage is a title you can get the moment you own a village, its not an indication of skill level, their actual titles are jounins


    Zabuza was still a jounin even if he was a missing nin by the way

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    only the five grand hidden villages can get the title of 'Kage', it doesn't mean there arn't anyother villiges, but only five kages... oro doesn't count as a kage, if he would have destroyed the leaf, then maybe he would have been granted with the title, but for now, he's just the boss of the sound village.

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    Kakashi is the "copy ninja" he know how to counter an attack. Because he knows more than 1000 jutsus. But Gai who is good at hand-to-hand combat can defeat kakashi with less problems than others, because sharingan can't see the movements of hand-to-hand combat. So i think that kakashi is the best jounin in leaf "overall"

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    he isnt really,
    most of the jounins from clans are stronger.
    If Jiyaira did missions for the leaf he'd be considered a jounin so he'd the strongest, Orochimaru was the strongest jounin at the time that he was in the leaf.
    Kakashi hasnt got a reputation the size of theirs, hes good but hes an average jounin when you compare him to some of the strongest

    Hyugas leader isnt really a jounin either though - he doesnt wear a head protector and let Hinata train with Kunerai only after he had rejected her, this suggests that the main family train all their members and therefore they dont have the ranks such as genin jounin etc, they're only equivilent.

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    As far as im concerned, I think that Kakashi was strong but has become less active since becoming Sensei over Team 7 so his skills arent as polished as other jounins that are out and about but he still has the Sharingan so its hard to tell, As for Oro, Jira, and Tsun-they are sage nins and have abilities above and beyond jounins. I am undecided right now on who is the "strongest jounin" in leaf village

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    No Kakashi isn't the strongest jounin technically but he's right up there he is very well known as one of the three people with a sharingan and one of only two who really know how to use it.

    He knows well over a thousand jutsu and can collect and use new ones almost instantaneously (like the shark jutsu of kisame)

    I'd say he's tied with Gai as one of the best afterall even Tsunade was scolding him for getting beaten by Itachi of all people so that says something about how strong he is considered.

    Jiraiya would technically be a jounin but he's one of the legendary three Kakashi isn't in his league.

    Kakashi didn't teach Sasuke Lee's taijutsu he had him mimic what they had both already copied from watching Lee fight.

    I'd say that Gai's got better taijutsu (he said he could fight Itachi by looking at just his feet/reflection) but Kakashi is no slouch and is probably right behind him.

    If the clan leaders were considered Jounin i think they'd be better than Kakashi.

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    It's inaccurate to use the term "strongest" when discussing this.

    Define "strength" when it comes to shinobi. Knowing 1000 jutsus doesn't mean anything if your opponent knows how to counter them all or can copy them. Different styles of combat work better or worse against certain other types. A shinobi's style might be effective against someone, but totally ineffective against someone else.

    It seems to work like rock-paper-scissors a lot of the time. I really can't be bothered going into examples, someone do it for me.
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