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    That's not it. The entire concept of not listening to someone trying to explain themselves is incredibly off-putting. If you want to dismiss them, listen and then make the decision. Otherwise, no excuse, just fucking idiocy.

    It is in fact made even worse by the fact she doesn't hate him that much. If she did, then they can break up and move on. If she didn't, she is just a stubborn asshat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    That's not it. The entire concept of not listening to someone trying to explain themselves is incredibly off-putting. If you want to dismiss them, listen and then make the decision. Otherwise, no excuse, just fucking idiocy.
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    I get frustrated at this too. It's entirely avoidable and can easily be identified and fixed through self reflection. Most people have probably grown up with experiences where their parents didn't listen to them, to realise that listening is important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    shinta: "I'm infuriated by Sitcom Writing 101!"
    Correct, which is why I don't watch sitcoms. Drama can be done without this nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    The entire concept of not listening to someone trying to explain themselves is incredibly off-putting.
    Even if you're really mad? I can visualize not wanting to interact (including listening) with someone who just slighted you. More so if they're kids. The promise that they can 'explain it' isn't going to magically make what you thought you saw and the conclusions you drew from it better; now you're just embarrassed that you jumped to the 'wrong' conclusion... that anybody else would have also made. Like a delayed 'gotcha'.

    I get that the whole 'no fault' anime 'misunderstanding' is its own trope at this point and I eye roll as well when it is used as a lazy injection of tension between protagonists without vilifying either party, but it isn't completely without precedent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neflight86 View Post
    Even if you're really mad? I can visualize not wanting to interact (including listening) with someone who just slighted you. More so if they're kids.
    That's what separates adults from children, the ability to take control of their emotions when necessary. I know many adults IRL cannot do that, and they are definitely emotionally immature. I don't want to watch such characters either. I can tolerate it in this show because they are kids.
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    Isn't it exactly taking control of your emotions when your first inclination is to lash out, but instead you withdraw and separate knowing you are emotionally compromised and upset? That should count for something in any age context.

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    That's not really different from lashing out. The direction is different, but both are emotional reactions. One is attack, the other is retreat, but both are giving into one's emotions instead of controlling them and doing the rational thing. It is not too late to resume the outrage after getting an explanation.

    Again, I don't fault them too much since they are kids and are naturally immature, but adults doing the same shit? Hard pass for me.
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    So the rational thing is to pretend you're not upset? Or are you saying its possible to simply decide to not be upset in the moment to face the situation?

    I guess my take on emotional maturity isn't suppressing them (emotions) entirely, but rather recognizing and averting the baser instincts to cause harm when inclined to do so. You sound like a better person than I. If I'm angry enough at a person or situation, I typically try to distance myself from it or mental deep breath to gain the time I need to calm down instead of what I may want to do in that moment, because I know it will lead to no good. Of course, no one ever realizes I have/had those thoughts because I don't act on them or show it outwardly, if I can help it. But part of that is not seeking out interaction with the thing driving me bonkers. Like you said, much can be forgiven because kids.

    ...just to beat the dead horse one last time before the next ep drops. Interesting discussion!

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    In this specific case, emotional maturity is being able to set your feelings aside temporarily because you don't know the full picture, listen to the explanation, and then doing with that as you will. Letting the situation deteriorate because you refuse to listen benefits no one, and is thus objectively a bad move.

    I understand that keeping away from a situation or entity that causes the negative emotions is a valid and even common coping strategy, but that is not a sign of emotional maturity. It isn't as terrible as simply lashing out right there and then, but the ideal is to have enough of a handle of your emotions and mentality that minor incidents can be handled well. I would understand if one was in a much more dire situation, like dealing with loss and/or grief, but petty jealousy over someone you aren't even in a romantic relationship with is not that.

    This actually happens fairly often in my marriage, where my wife does something aggravating, but no matter how angry or annoyed or disappointed I feel, I always calm myself and listen to her side immediately. Usually, that enlightens me to the fact that no harm was meant or some extenuating circumstance, leading to the negative emotion subsiding significantly or even completely.

    It'd be another thing if the aggressor in question has a pattern of behavior (that they cannot or refuse to fix) causing you to be upset. In that case, the emotionally mature thing to do is to cut off that person from your life and be happier for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    It'd be another thing if the aggressor in question has a pattern of behavior (that they cannot or refuse to fix) causing you to be upset. In that case, the emotionally mature thing to do is to cut off that person from your life and be happier for it.
    Uh...in this case, Momo's ex-boyfriends ALL have a pattern of behavior of being dirtbags. This is exactly the type of behavior she has come to expect from boys, especially ones that she gains interest in but fail to live up to her ideal dream, so it isn't a leap for her to jump to the same conclusion about Okarun.

    The duo will never be capable of cutting the other out of each others lives. Okarun has no friends and is absolutely desperate to keep close the one he actually trusts (as opposed to the overbearing and kinda creepy super vain new addition), and Momo knows deep down that Okarun is literally and figuratively exactly who she's been dreaming would come along even if he physically doesn't match.

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    That statement is unrelated to this story and is more of a general opinion of mine.

    When I say pattern of behavior, I meant from the same person, not from many different people. Either way, it is unrelated to their case. Theirs is a minor misunderstanding that obviously doesn't warrant any drastic decisions.
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    Hilarious episode.

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    I... wish they would stay away from drawn-out fights like this. I was getting pretty bored by the end; as nothing really made sense and I was just waiting to see how the team would get in their combination kill shot. Fights are not DanDaDan's strong suit, at least for me. The character moments were still really good and the bit at the end was gold. Silky's transformation and animation were a highlight, for what little screen time they got.

    I hope 'getting everybody naked like its Kill la Kill' isn't going to be a motif going forward!

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    I absolutely agree. The action is chaotic and nonsensical, which is in theme but not something I enjoy.

    So are they gonna be a trio now? Poor Momo. She is in a love triangle with fucking Guh-linda...
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    A few manga panels that I saw had more detail and looked good, but the action was messy in the anime. Lots of colour but the details are missing.

    I was trying to figure out what they meant by the mantis shrimp not being able to punch as well above water before I realised they're talking about the fact that its punch lacks cavitation damage when dry.

    I did quite like the sumo fight however.

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    Eps 10

    Seiko is hot.

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    I'm glad that the naked hallway incident didn't entirely blow over, because everyone saw it.

    The rest of the eps with the shrimp guy was silly because what good is a cow on a warzone water planet without any grass, but we got more Seiko, so whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    Eps 10

    Seiko is hot.

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    I'm glad that the naked hallway incident didn't entirely blow over, because everyone saw it.

    The rest of the eps with the shrimp guy was silly because what good is a cow on a warzone water planet without any grass, but we got more Seiko, so whatever.
    Yeah it made more sense to adopt the alien family to Earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    Eps 10

    Seiko is hot.

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    I'm glad that the naked hallway incident didn't entirely blow over, because everyone saw it.

    The rest of the eps with the shrimp guy was silly because what good is a cow on a warzone water planet without any grass, but we got more Seiko, so whatever.
    Yeah it made more sense to adopt the alien family to Earth.

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    The new guy is too much.

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