Zenless Zone Zero - ZZZ

[KrayZ33]

Anyone playing?
The game is seriously fun. I started on release and I absolutely love the way the story is told. The comics are awesome whenever they are there, and the cutscenes are great.

Characters are dripping in style, and it's just such a huge upgrade to Genshin and HSR (back when I played both still)
Hopefully the soundtracks keep up in the future as well.

my favorite character so far:





I don't think I have to explain the ASSets which are used in this game are phenomenal.
Hey and you can date your characters too... kinda. At least I went to watch a movie with her and had a dinner too, we even held hands, which is basically the same as being married.
Heck, even though I signed something to not speak about it... I even watched porn with her.

And for good measure, a sweet fanmade video:




and from DJ Legend Tiesto:

[Ryllharu]

Zhu Yuan is very good (an actually normally adjusted cop without a tragic backstory. Works hard but clocks out on time), but Nicole is hard to best in terms of characterization, as is Ben the Scary Construction Worker Bear who is actually an accountant and his boss Koleda.

The Ether characters are certainly some of my favorites.

My single favorite though? Terrifyingly powerful (in lore) Alexandrina "Rina" Sebastiane, the maid who plays like Psycho Mantis.



The bears are really funny in the game. They're literally talking bears that still act like bears who wear clothes and do construction work. Activates some Richard Scarry book memories for me.

[shinta|hikari]

How is the story of this game? Is it just battle after battle type? Or is there actual exploration?

[shinta|hikari]

I tried this out and got Grace on my first 10 draw.

Wakiness.

https://ibb.co/y0qTQqH

[shinta|hikari]

Who is your main team?

Mine is Nekomata, Piper, and Lucy.

I also have Grace, Soldier 11, and Lycaon, but don't use the latter because he is a dood.

[Ryllharu]

Who is your main team?

My primary currently is Zhu Yuan, Nicole, Anby.

You do need two teams. I haven't been able to clear Shiyu Defense 10 because I didn't have any true DPS before Zhu Yuan.

Working on a second, which will be Jane, Rina, Grace for the Disorder composition.

Third will be fire/physical based, assuming I get Caesar and Burnice. I've been building up Koleda recently and have been working on Lucy for a long time. Piper was my old DPS before Zhu Yuan.

I have wolfguy, but since I don't have Ellen, there's no point in running ice comps.

[shinta|hikari]

Are you F2P?

I was thinking of making a fire team with Soldier 11, Koleda, and the bear. Is that one any good?

I'm mainly aiming for waki characters. Unfortunately, all support characters have sleeves...

[Ryllharu]

F2P, but I might have to whale a little to get both Caesar and Burnice.

Soldier 11 is the DPS you need for the team. Ben and Koleda are a little redundant, since they both operate in the role of building daze rapidly. You can use both and run chain attacks more often, or replace one of them with Lucy if you have her (or anyone else that might boost attack or cause debuffs or generate anomaly for Disorder procs).

[shinta|hikari]

I have Lucy, and that's great because I prefer using female characters in virtually anything. Lucy's batting combat is also pretty cool. I love it when the final blow freeze frame is her batting a bear into the enemy, like a walk off home run pose.

Thank you for the advice!

[shinta|hikari]

Also, did you guys know if you go to Piper's Equipment screen, then to Skills, she has a third post with raised arms? Some characters seem to have extra poses specifically for when you do this.

[Ryllharu]

Lucy's batting combat is also pretty cool. I love it when the final blow freeze frame is her batting a bear into the enemy, like a walk off home run pose.

Lucy has some of the best animation details which are normally too fast to catch unless you're focusing on her.
- Normal parry she gets caught by her pigs and pushed back upright
- Strong parry she gets pushed into her pigs and then they all fall over like a cheerleader catch




edit:

Ben and Koleda are a little redundant, since they both operate in the role of building daze rapidly. You can use both and run chain attacks more often

I take part of this back, they're not redundant at all. Try the event trial where you use S11, Ben, and Koleda as trial characters and trigger buffs on Defensive Assists.

Holy. Shit.

[shinta|hikari]

Man, her animations are awesome, and the bear aspect is cute.

What makes that fire team good? I don't really understand a lot about the combat because everything has been easy so far. I'm only at level 38.

[Ryllharu]

Are you playing on Challenge mode and pushing either Hollow Zero or Shiyu Defense? It will get a bit more challenging towards endgame, as does trying to hit S-ranks on higher-level resource runs.

What makes that fire team good is their ability to very quickly cause Chain attacks over and over because they generate a large amount of Daze (the yellow bar below an enemy's HP, which trips stuns (goes gray), which starts chain attacks) and being a mono-element team, also cause a fair amount of Anomaly (circle to the right of enemy HP bar) which triggers Burn in their case which is especially great for human enemies because it interrupts their attacks.

Using the switch button when the yellow cross flashes from an enemy's attack triggers a Defensive Assist. Koleda generates a decent of daze when she does a Defensive assist, which costs two slots on your switch UI element. Ben is a Defender, so his Defensive Assists only cost one slot, and they also generate a significant amount of Daze (about as much or more than Koleda doing her stun attacks properly on 2nd/4th hits). Those assist slots refill when you trigger a chain attack.

So if you're good with the Defensive Assists, the end result is triggering chain attacks repeatedly, refilling the assist bar over and over, and leaving the enemy stunned a lot for Solider 11 to capitalize on with her Burst and specials (she needs to be on field the entire time when she's capable of doing fire attacks) at the right moment when the enemy is stunned and taking extra damage and racking up a lot of anomaly even though she's an attacker.

I don't blame you for not understanding the combat. It is very poorly explained in game and all over the internet on the AI copy-paste guides.

Once you know what you're doing, ZZZ combat is super fluid and extremely satisfying.

[shinta|hikari]

Holy fucking shit, I didn't even know the enemies had indicators for those things. I also didn't know that daze causes chain attacks, or that defensive characters have that benefit from Defensive Assists. This game can be so deep for a gacha game.

Thank you for all this. It will actually make my main Nekomata, Piper, and Lucy team better because I understand the mechanics now.

I have not been doing any of the challenging content yet because I've been focusing on the story and agent stories, as well as mats for skills and disc drives. Once I finish Rina's story and the ratgirl's story, I will do the harder content, which will likely require me to use these mechanics to the fullest.

Have you tried playing Wuthering Waves?