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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    It was luring not just the dwarf, but any idiot to ride it so it can drown them in underwater. It wasn't a very strong beast. On land, it would've been killed instantly, but in water it has an extreme advantage. Even then, it died. What a zako.
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    Was the water horse really just waiting for the dwarf to get on his back to attack as supposed, or did it get spooked and turn feral when its tail got lassoed? I'm torn, and either way it could turn out is interesting.
    Shinta said it, but that's exactly what kelpies do in all myths about them. Encourage a rider to think getting on is a good idea, immediately drown them and eat them. We saw one do the same in the Ancient Magus' Bride.

    The encounter says more about Senshi's trusting nature than anything else. Laios knew what it would do. Senshi's experiences living in the dungeon for so long by himself have let him relax his guard or even find some beneficial.

    Laios in contrast, LOVES monsters, but he also knows their behavior like the back of his hand, and knows exactly how far to trust their behavior. Shown, not told, like with the siren-mermaids.

    Real growth for Senshi this episode. He relaxed his superstitions about Marcille's magics and changed his opinion after her gesture of apology. She didn't criticize him after seeing how shocked he was about what happened. She reached out in trust instead.

    All this stuff is what makes the series so good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neflight86 View Post
    Was the water horse really just waiting for the dwarf to get on his back to attack as supposed
    That is, traditionally, how Kelpies operate in mythology. They get you to ride them, then they drown you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    Real growth for Senshi this episode. He relaxed his superstitions about Marcille's magics and changed his opinion after her gesture of apology.
    He didn't let her braid his beard though!

    Fucking cave hobo...

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    Somehow myths or beasts from legends are like an algorithm or program. When you have the right inputs, it will invariably work as intended. Regardless of the experience you have living with them when not triggering their program/algorithm/myth
    Like the scorpio and the frog, or demons in Frieren.

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    Technically if food cooks quickly, then Adamantine would be bad against fire. It shouldn't melt, but you'd cook.

    But anyway, this episode explains why revival is a thing in the dungeon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    But anyway, this episode explains why revival is a thing in the dungeon.
    Which didn't seem like it needed to be explained beyond "there's resurrection spells". But I guess it only works in the dungeon.

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    Technically if food cooks quickly, then Adamantine would be bad against fire. It shouldn't melt, but you'd cook.
    I imagine when it was still a proper shield, it probably had suitable handles or straps so that it could be held even if the metal got super hot when deflecting fire breath or something.

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    Or it is a mystical metal that conducts or insulates well depending on what the story needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DEX
    Which didn't seem like it needed to be explained beyond "there's resurrection spells". But I guess it only works in the dungeon.
    But we now know that resurrection isn't normal outside of dungeons. Consequences are more definite outside, but within a dungeon you can play it like a video game - and we know it's by design.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shinta
    Or it is a mystical metal that conducts or insulates well depending on what the story needed.
    Well that's no fun.

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    Episode 11

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    So, turns out the shield is no good insulating against heat after all (though they did prove that in episode 9 when they boiled the Undine. We just got proof of that against dragonfire now - at least without an insulating handle of some description.)

    I can enjoy slow motion scenes for effect, but here it actually feels like they used less frames than usual. It looked jarring in the two or so instances that they used it.

    Otherwise, the episode was tight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    So, turns out the shield is no good insulating against heat after all
    Another reason shields have handles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    Another reason shields have handles.
    Yeah, handles would be a good start.

    Cloth or something to insulate would help it last another hit or two. It wouldn't be something that'd turn the shield into an unlimited blocking machine though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    Cloth or something to insulate would help it last another hit or two.
    That dragon's hide would probably work pretty good.


    Man, I'm weirdly looking forward to them eating that dragon.

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    Why is that weird?
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    E12

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    Yep, that dragon hide turned out to be a good insulator, though why that'd be good for baking is also an unknown. You want something that distributes even heat but also not necessarily insulate.

    Lots of lore here
    -Black Magic exists, and is black for some reason.

    -Falin has godly mana right now, which might either be to do with that she's been revived using dragon flesh, or that it's the summoning circle, or both.

    -Dark Elves also dabble in forbiden magic, and for whatever reason they're not very happy about this spell, and Maricelle despite her lack of guilt suggested erasing this circle. I don't know if it's because it's not supposed to be used, or that it's not supposed to be known. Luckily it's incomplete because Senshi blew half of it up, but it's recognisable anyway.

    Adding all this up, it looks like the Dungeon's revival system + Elven magic is a way to power up mages in their world, and it's about to spark a war or something.

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    A detail I really like is how much taller and broader that Falin is compared to Marcille. An actual emphasis on the Tall Man race being legitimately taller than the other races, it's not just Laios being tall because he's their bulky fighter.
    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    Falin has godly mana right now, which might either be to do with that she's been revived using dragon flesh, or that it's the summoning circle, or both.

    Adding all this up, it looks like the Dungeon's revival system + Elven magic is a way to power up mages in their world, and it's about to spark a war or something.
    Falin isn't a mage though, she's a cleric (different magic heritage going on here). Heavily implied that she uses the same magic that gnomes do, since she teleported the entire party in the first episode, and the old gnome that Namari is working for now also has gateway paintings set up to transit between the middle levels and his base of operations on the surface.

    But given Falin's power boost, even before they ate and considering she should have been basically drained completely like Marcille was a few episodes ago, something is definitely off with the method they used to revive her and the means they took to accomplish it. She shouldn't be flush with magic, and they all noticed it.

    Marcille said they usually use lambs or goats when they have to pull someone back without a mostly intact dead body. Those are surface animals. Marcille just used a dungeon monster imbued with magic, on account of it being a dragon.

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    Dragon pizza!!!

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    Oh, they also played it off as normal that Falin can see ghosts. Not the freezing ghost-monsters, but actual ghosts are just invisible people.

    If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    Not the freezing ghost-monsters, but actual ghosts are just invisible people.
    I mean, the little girl ghost can probably also freeze people. She's just choosing not to because Falin is placating her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    Marcille just used a dungeon monster imbued with magic, on account of it being a dragon.
    Oh, so she's probably a hybrid and can't leave the dungeon is what it implies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David75 View Post
    Oh, so she's probably a hybrid and can't leave the dungeon is what it implies?
    Why would being part monster mean you can't leave the dungeon?

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