Ore Dake Level Up na Ken / Solo Leveling

[Kraco]

It ought to be somewhat pointless to ponder about the hunters vs non-hunters situation, or non-hunters vs dungeons. These kinds of stories don't want to delve too deep into that issue. For example, those crystals. They ought to be magical to be worth anything. So, what if you make a bullet out of that stuff? Besides, what exactly prevents a hunter from dying from exposure to a nerve agent and other chemical weapons? The same goes for living monsters, for that matter. Stories like this simply must assume that it's worth it only for hunters, using their special powers, to enter the dungeons. And then they also use only medieval weapons for the sake of the style alone.

[MFauli]

It ought to be somewhat pointless to ponder about the hunters vs non-hunters situation, or non-hunters vs dungeons. These kinds of stories don't want to delve too deep into that issue. For example, those crystals. They ought to be magical to be worth anything. So, what if you make a bullet out of that stuff? Besides, what exactly prevents a hunter from dying from exposure to a nerve agent and other chemical weapons? The same goes for living monsters, for that matter. Stories like this simply must assume that it's worth it only for hunters, using their special powers, to enter the dungeons. And then they also use only medieval weapons for the sake of the style alone.

All of these are things that GOOD writing would answer.

[Kraco]

All of these are things that GOOD writing would answer.

Indeed, but the only genuinely good wiriting in this story are the parts that make Jinwoo look cool. That's pretty much the only concern the author ever had. The other characters are pretty weak (as personality depictions and their impact to the story). The female characters are pretty faces, but that's it.

At least only hunters ever entering the dungeons could be explained with the gates themselves. Maybe only someone with mana (that is, a hunter) can enter a gate. Non-hunters would see it but couldn't interact with it. I don't actually remember if this series ever bothered to come up with such a detail.

If you consider how weak Jinwoo, the weakest hunter in the world, used to be, it's impossible to imagine that he couldn't have been killed by a bullet. In fact I don't really see why the magician class, to name one, wouldn't die to a sniper rifle bullet if surprised. The fighters can take a real punch, so maybe they would passively deflect a bullet. On the other hand, if we consider heat energy, Jinwoo did seek protection from it before entering the demon realm. If heat from magic different from heat from a chemical reaction? This story wouldn't want to bother with it.

[Buffalobiian]

At least only hunters ever entering the dungeons could be explained with the gates themselves. Maybe only someone with mana (that is, a hunter) can enter a gate. Non-hunters would see it but couldn't interact with it. I don't actually remember if this series ever bothered to come up with such a detail.

I think that's at least implied. There's no need for pack mules or salvage crews to be hunters otherwise when all they do is manual labour.

[MFauli]

Btw Kraco, you are literally THE ONLY active Gotwoot-member not yet in the Gotwoot-discord. Join so we don't lose you in case this website ever goes down :>

[KrayZ33]

I think that's at least implied. There's no need for pack mules or salvage crews to be hunters otherwise when all they do is manual labour.

People without mana, and thus without being able to be a hunter, get the eternal sleep sickness over time, just by standing near hunters.

[shinta|hikari]

Based on what I'm reading from everyone, monsters and hunters are immune to anything non-magical, and that even monster/hunter melee fighter attacks are by nature magical, which allows the to kill each other. Is this correct?

[KrayZ33]

Monsters are... not sure about hunters.
Perhaps it's the "magic" that makes them invulnerable to normal weapons.
But this story is probably never going to bother actually explaining it because it takes the attention towards how the world would work under these new rules

The author just doesn't want you to think about it, because he doesn't want to write anything about it and find a solution.

It's the same with the magic stones.
Also we don't know how weapons are crafted.
And if we knew how wepaons are crafted, we'd think about why the military won't get these weapons or as someone already suggested, why the ammo won't have magic-stone tips or whatever etc. etc. etc.

[Buffalobiian]

People without mana, and thus without being able to be a hunter, get the eternal sleep sickness over time, just by standing near hunters.

I had totally forgotten about this detail.

[DarthEnderX]

Btw Kraco, you are literally THE ONLY active Gotwoot-member not yet in the Gotwoot-discord. Join so we don't lose you in case this website ever goes down :>

Do it Krac!

People without mana, and thus without being able to be a hunter, get the eternal sleep sickness over time, just by standing near hunters.

I'm pretty sure they only might get it. Otherwise they'd be completely quarantined from normal people. Because they'd be functionally radioactive.

[KrayZ33]

I'm pretty sure they only might get it. Otherwise they'd be completely quarantined from normal people. Because they'd be functionally radioactive.

Probably, but I guess tolerance against magic is a thing then and magic power leaks out of gates that can be measured.

[Buffalobiian]

E25

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The whole "Shadows have their personality and memory" bit doesn't quite gel with how Iron was just a selfish twat before he died. That doesn't really work with here. At least monsters seem to fit into pecking order.

[Kraco]

The end didn't announce a new season and there was that strange speech about hunters. I wonder if that means this is it for the anime. Introducing the new characters could still be explained with this being advertisement for the novel and manhwa. But I hope there will be a third season.

The whole "Shadows have their personality and memory" bit doesn't quite gel with how Iron was just a selfish twat before he died. That doesn't really work with here. At least monsters seem to fit into pecking order.

It seems like the stronger a monster (or a hunter) was in life, the more intelligent they will be as a shadow. Shadow-Iron doesn't speak, but he has got some personality left, even if it's not exactly the same personality he had in life.

[MFauli]

Would be insane if the anime didn't continue.

I guess Cha's speech confirms that there WILL be a way to get stronger for all the S-ranks, otherwise her scene would have made no sense at all. It will be pure bs when suddenly everyone can re-re-awaken, but I guess that's what it is.

Also did Jinwoo hit a level cap at level 100 or does it just continue with level 101?

Getting THAT many EXP for destroying the ant eggs was dumb, though, lol. When you're at level 95 or something, stomping eggs shoudln't get you several level-ups

I still think it's BS that S-ranks from other countries are THAT much stronger than Korea's and Japan's S-ranks that they apparently could have defeated Beru. Then what we saw before is just dumb misrepresentation by the author, because it should be public knowledge in this world how powerful certain S-ranks in other countries are. "It's all secret" blabla.

Releasing the healer felt super dumb, but you'd think Jinwoo would simply learn some healing abilities himself at this point.

Anyway, we'll see. The major thing I fear will happen is that powerlevels stop making ANY sense, with new villains being introduced every time Jinwoo overcomes the next obstacle. Basically what Dragon Ball did, except Dragon Ball is not to be taken seriously, this show takes itself over-serious.

The final question remains: Which is the hottest girl?
- Healer
- Step-sister
- School girl
- Cha Hae
- Demon elf girl

For now I'll go with Cha, but demon elf girl has potential.

[Buffalobiian]

I guess Cha's speech confirms that there WILL be a way to get stronger for all the S-ranks, otherwise her scene would have made no sense at all. It will be pure bs when suddenly everyone can re-re-awaken, but I guess that's what it is.

You get "stronger" by learning Judo etc. You don't get stronger by getting better stats or getting new skills. That's why Go still trained when people asked him why he bothered when he's an S-rank, and why Tank dude said that the white ants were as strong as an S-rank, but hunters with coordination and thinking could kill them.

It seems like the stronger a monster (or a hunter) was in life, the more intelligent they will be as a shadow. Shadow-Iron doesn't speak, but he has got some personality left, even if it's not exactly the same personality he had in life.

Iron has a personality currently, yes. The shadows also apparently appear to have varying willingness to serve or have initiative on their own. Iron should be a pain in the ass for Jinwoo to control given Iron's dislike for Jinwoo, but that's not what we're shown.

[MFauli]

You get "stronger" by learning Judo etc. You don't get stronger by getting better stats or getting new skills. That's why Go still trained when people asked him why he bothered when he's an S-rank, and why Tank dude said that the white ants were as strong as an S-rank, but hunters with coordination and thinking could kill them.
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Wat? No, all of that is wrong.

Your rank decides how strong you are. The training we saw S-rank hunters do might make them minmally stronger just like real training would do, but it has nothing on Jinwoo's level rising. So unless they all re-re-awaken, training will never get Cha significantly stronger, she wouldn't even be able to defeat Igris.

[Kraco]

Iron has a personality currently, yes. The shadows also apparently appear to have varying willingness to serve or have initiative on their own. Iron should be a pain in the ass for Jinwoo to control given Iron's dislike for Jinwoo, but that's not what we're shown.

Since those shadows are basically undead ghosts, Jinwoo being the necromancer, they are all his slaves, to put it bluntly. He should never have any trouble controlling them, regardless of what they thought of him while alive. However, we have already seen Iron do some stupid stunts as a shadow, just like he was stupid in life. The stunts are just somewhat different since as a necromancer's summon, he will be forever loyal and thus any disobedience won't play a role. That doesn't mean the shadows wouldn't do things on their own to varying degrees, probably dictated by the power level in life, which seems to lead to higher intelligence as a shadow. And any personality quirks.

The final question remains: Which is the hottest girl?
- Healer
- Step-sister
- School girl
- Cha Hae
- Demon elf girl

For now I'll go with Cha, but demon elf girl has potential.

Hunter Cha. However, the demon girl is more interesting. It was funny how in the beginning she kept looking for a chance to backstab Jinwoo, despite shamelessly pleading for mercy. She's a hilarious case, whereas Cha is just a beautiful hard worker, apparently with some chemistry with Jinwoo (even literally, considering her sense of smell).

[Buffalobiian]

Wat? No, all of that is wrong.

Your rank decides how strong you are. The training we saw S-rank hunters do might make them minmally stronger just like real training would do, but it has nothing on Jinwoo's level rising. So unless they all re-re-awaken, training will never get Cha significantly stronger, she wouldn't even be able to defeat Igris.

Yes the training will make them minimally stronger without significantly breaching large gaps in power such as the existing alphabetical ranking.

Cha intends to train to get that little bit stronger, or rather - as strong as feasibly possible. She's not training with the idea that she'll improve massively since that doesn't happen. She might re-awaken, but that has nothing to do with training and is a lottery.

Since those shadows are basically undead ghosts, Jinwoo being the necromancer, they are all his slaves, to put it bluntly. He should never have any trouble controlling them, regardless of what they thought of him while alive. However, we have already seen Iron do some stupid stunts as a shadow, just like he was stupid in life. The stunts are just somewhat different since as a necromancer's summon, he will be forever loyal and thus any disobedience won't play a role. That doesn't mean the shadows wouldn't do things on their own to varying degrees, probably dictated by the power level in life, which seems to lead to higher intelligence as a shadow. And any personality quirks.

I agree that the necromancer/must-obey thing is how this is supposed to work. That's how it's been shown thus far. Until Berus, essentially.
And given that's how the command/summon is supposed to work, questions like "Don't you resent having to serve me?" or "Can you thin them out?" are meaningless.

[Death BOO Z]

I wasn't aware he could release shadows. I thought that maybe he's being smart and pretending to "hear" the healer dude and then releasing im as a way to get over the bad blood making him a shodow can create. but if he frames it as coming from the person and makes a big show of releasing him, then it appears justified (and even as honoring the healers wishes).

which nation was the dual-wielding swords guy from?
Cha can say that she wants to be stronger as many times as she wants, but come S3 and she'll get the same screen time as healer girl and sister friend girl.

demon elf girl is the top rank for me, winning with personality (she has one) and spunk.
Cha takes a high place because she's hot and half the reason I started watching this. what happened to her hankerchief quirck?

It would be funny that the rich kid told jinwoo not to mess around with the younger girl, and now it looks like they are together. it would actually be characters behaving like characters, they aren't, it just the show being weird.
1. it looks like they are dating, since they are always together.
2. same for B-rank healer girl and C-rank one-arm mage sword master, they are always at the same scenes.
3. Cha went to train at a dojo, the only sword master teacher we know is the C-rank, so it kind of seems like she's going to train under him.

so, was level 100 significant or not?


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The final question remains: Which is the hottest girl?
- Healer
- Step-sister
- School girl
- Cha Hae
- Demon elf girl

I didn't know she was step-sister...

[Buffalobiian]

which nation was the dual-wielding swords guy from?

No way he's not from China.

As for the girls, they're all hot. The B-rank healer girl from the Ice Elf dungeon has a nice hair accessory though that does make her stand out. I do like each of the different girls at various moments though, except Demon girl. Cha Hae is on the hot list, but otherwise I just see "he smells nice" and "do I look weird?".