Sousou no Frieren

[shinta|hikari]

@Mfauli - Maybe there are and they all failed? (EDIT: Y beat me to it)

The point I am making is the same way we are making assumptions, you and Darth are also making assumptions. As long as it makes sense with the rules of the world and can be explained and/or inferred with information we do know, that isn't bad writing or characters being stupid. If you wish it went another direction, then that is absolutely valid.

@Darth - Many countries have stopped producing nukes because the ones they have are enough to destroy the world many times over. There is simply no need for more. If Frieren can teach Fern all the destructive spells she will ever need, a practical daily-use spell is more valuable at the moment.

[Y]

Guys, you're literally, unironically excusing the boy selling the cow of his dead for 3 beans instead of the money their family needed. Except these aren't magical beans in this case. "But he felt like accepting the beans, it's a cute character moment!"

:/

Fern and others need some parents to punch them some sense into.

Yes, that's also a character moment. Characters acting impractically or suboptimally is not a writing error. You were a real terror at bedtime if you complained that Jack should obviously have sold the cow for the appropriate market value.

EDIT:

It's also funny to criticize fern's spell selection from a practical aspect because asking Serie for a spell as part of the graduation ceremony is presumably this heavily ritualized and formal process. You're presumably supposed to ask for a spell that embodies your ethos towards magic. It's a symbolic beseechment/blessing as part of your promotion. It's not like she's a genie and you're supposed to find the correct phrase to ask for infinite wishes.

[DarthEnderX]

@Darth - Many countries have stopped producing nukes because the ones they have are enough to destroy the world many times over. There is simply no need for more.

And yet, there's still a massive military industrial complex. Which is constantly developing new methods of warfare.

It's also funny to criticize fern's spell selection from a practical aspect because asking Serie for a spell as part of the graduation ceremony is presumably this heavily ritualized and formal process. You're presumably supposed to ask for a spell that embodies your ethos towards magic. It's a symbolic beseechment/blessing as part of your promotion. It's not like she's a genie and you're supposed to find the correct phrase to ask for infinite wishes.

That's a lot of assumptions to be making about a process they showed us 0% of.

[shinta|hikari]

And yet, there's still a massive military industrial complex. Which is constantly developing new methods of warfare.

That did not negate my point. There are times when people stop increasing destructive power because it is redundant or no longer cost effective.

To add, while the world is constantly creating new weapons, it is also creating many more methods of making everyday life more convenient, comfortable, and easy.

[Y]

That's a lot of assumptions to be making about a process they showed us 0% of.

Graduation ceremonies are activities fraught with symbolic meaning and ritual process because that's what a ceremony is by definition, and in this one you are becoming a peer of an ancient immortal sorceress so yes I think it's a fairly safe assumption it contains ritual and symbolism.

[MFauli]

So, did we find out what Denken wished for? I only remember "finally I can visit my wife's grave". Did he get a spell that allows him to access certain places?

[shinta|hikari]

I think he may have had a promise with his wife about becoming a first class mage, so when he did, he now has the right to visit her grave.

[Ryllharu]

So, did we find out what Denken wished for? I only remember "finally I can visit my wife's grave". Did he get a spell that allows him to access certain places?

Not in these episodes anyway.

He, like Fern and Frieren, already has most of the power he could ask for. He said as much across the first two tests and the resting period. His primary goal was passing an exam that he, "didn't need to take" solely for the authority to access the lands where he was from, which the Northern nation have blocked off to all but those traveling with a First Class mage due to the danger.

One presumes, hideous monsters or very powerful demons like Aura.

In the context we have, the spell he wanted doesn't matter. Same goes for all the others who passed. We only know Fern's selection.

[shinta|hikari]

I forgot about land access information completely.

If I were Ubel, I'd get a spell that allows me to empathize with anyone...

[Ryllharu]

I forgot about land access information completely.

You mean the entire reason this overly drawn-out and poorly-constructed arc exists? :3

[shinta|hikari]

For Denken, specifically.

TBH, I didn't care nor listen to Denken's story or motivation whatsoever. I only thought about it when it was brought up here.

[MFauli]

I forgot about land access information completely.

If I were Ubel, I'd get a spell that allows me to empathize with anyone...

She's already hot, though ...

[DarthEnderX]

Graduation ceremonies are activities fraught with symbolic meaning and ritual process because that's what a ceremony is by definition, and in this one you are becoming a peer of an ancient immortal sorceress so yes I think it's a fairly safe assumption it contains ritual and symbolism.

And what part of ANY of the interactions they've shown with Serie so far would suggest that she'd have any interest in that kind of frivolous display?

So, did we find out what Denken wished for? I only remember "finally I can visit my wife's grave". Did he get a spell that allows him to access certain places?

We didn't find out SHIT!

They showed 3 seconds of Fern getting her spell and 0 seconds of anyone else getting theirs!

[shinta|hikari]

She's already hot, though ...

Can you explain what you mean?

[Buffalobiian]

She's already hot, though ...

Can you explain what you mean?

Lol yeah I'm like "uh... what?"

I'm guessing MFauli is saying "She's already hot enough to get laid, she doesn't need to empathize with people to get dick" while we're saying that auto-empathy would allow her to steal spells with a 100% success rate.

[MFauli]

Lol yeah I'm like "uh... what?"

I'm guessing MFauli is saying "She's already hot enough to get laid, she doesn't need to empathize with people to get dick" while we're saying that auto-empathy would allow her to steal spells with a 100% success rate.

Wait wat, lol.

[DarthEnderX]

Wait wat, lol.

That's how her magic works. If she understand how a person thinks, she can copy their magic.

[shinta|hikari]

I added more Ubelpits: https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...usp=drive_link

I will keep adding as I find them.

[MFauli]

Find a way to properly write her name if you like her so much, shinta! Übel! Not Ubel! Dat German!

[DarthEnderX]

If his avatar gets anymore graphic, I'm gonna have to block him...