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    Not far from my truths hahaha

    All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Anyway, age is an explanation for Frieren's attitude, not an excuse. The dwarf also lives long, she could be nicer with him. Or live with other elves.
    There's a hint in the OP why Frieren doesn't live with the other elves, but they'll probably explain it in this run so I'll leave it off there. They've mentioned a few pieces of it already. (edit: there's actually two hints)

    Dwarves don't live that much longer than humans, relative to elves.

    You should be asking why Frieren was apprenticed to the greatest human mage who has ever lived.

    Healing Frieren's detachment from others is blatantly her main character development. They say it right to the audience's face, over and over.

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    Eps 6

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    All Hail Fern, best of the stern.

    This episode had weirdly good animation, even after the action scenes were done. Lot of detail on sitting down, being handed a milk, and other stuff.

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    This show is amazing, I'm surprised that it's not unanimously liked here.

    Laid-back, melancholy/humorous adventure with effectively two stories going in parallel. So good.

    If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~

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    Because of the decision to release 4 episodes at once, I haven't gotten around to watching it because it takes a bit of an investment to go through them in one go.
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    They're more episodic than you think.

    They're not a movie like Oshi no Ko was. They're more like the thematic prologue (or "the first arc") that leads to the focused adventure of the series.

    Watch the first four however you please and in any combination, or solo. One sitting not required in the slightest.

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    I see.

    Then why the heck did they release it together??
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    07

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    Finally, something happen.

    Interesting message to this one. "Racism is correct."

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    More like spieciesm ?
    My take is that racism is a phobia between members of the same species on any number of subcategory they adhere to.
    Spiecism is a phobia or sets of rules beetween species. What matters here is that cause for phobia or rules are not arbitrarily set by individuals or groups of individual, but mainly set by nature and species characterisrics.
    A predator won't stop preying for long.
    I like that this ep didn't try to tell otherwise. If you can somehow have a lion as a pet, you're never 100% sure it won't kill or arm you at some point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David75 View Post
    More like spieciesm ?
    My take is that racism is a phobia between members of the same species on any number of subcategory they adhere to.
    Spiecism is a phobia or sets of rules beetween species. What matters here is that cause for phobia or rules are not arbitrarily set by individuals or groups of individual, but mainly set by nature and species characterisrics.
    I'm just using Race in the traditional D&D/RPG sense, which refers to Humans or Elves or Orcs or Goblins as races.

    Quote Originally Posted by David75 View Post
    A predator won't stop preying for long.
    I like that this ep didn't try to tell otherwise. If you can somehow have a lion as a pet, you're never 100% sure it won't kill or arm you at some point.
    Lions aren't intelligent enough to reason, and also, their predatory instincts are designed for their survival.

    They said demons don't need to eat people to survive. So they're basically an entire race of serial killers.

    Which makes sense in the traditional D&D template for demons. Where they are literally made of evil from a dimension of pure evil. But most modern fantasy anime just treats them like another fantasy race.

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    I lacked some cultural elements.
    Basically those demons are home cats , joke, but not by much.
    Still, their behavior is in their nature. Their nature is killing humans using any language or social intelligence means.
    Not something you come regularly across in anime.

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    It seems to me in most Japanese fantasy (including isekai) these days, demons are merely given the role of an agent in social commentary, where humans are the really evil party and demons are much better, even if in the initial setting they were made to look worse, often through the propaganda going on in the human realm. The setting in this series is much more interesting when demons truly are hopelessly evil from the human point of view, even if they can be communicated with. If you consider the picture this episode paints, the demons might be considered something similar to a destructive AI in some scifi, like Terminator. There's no problem with communicating with it, but it's still fundamentally unreasonable and unfathomable.

    Unfortunately humans have a tendency to judge everything based on their own standards, which is why the demons are being given a chance in this episode, and the demons are readily exploiting the chance.

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    What a flex. "I'm stronger than your boss".

    It's strange how no one recognises her though. Frieren herself said that she's only met a single elf in 400 years. That means she's the only elf most humans meet ever. How do you not associate that with the legendary elf statue that stands in your village that looks exactly like her.

    "You must complement Frieren-sama for waking up early" was pretty funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    What a flex. "I'm stronger than your boss".
    By now, she's probably stronger than his boss's boss.

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    Episode 08

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    Oh shiiit.

    Stark being Stark.
    Fern having control to the point of not leaking any mana at all.
    Frieren creating wind blades out of nowhere.

    They're bending the meaning of "wild beasts" a bit the more we learn about demons. Yes they're evil, but they also pursue magic. what's more is that this demon appreciates beauty in effort like one appreciates art. A being like that has to know what a father is. They can't just know it as "it's a word that ignites sympathy in humans when we use it".

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    A good call from Frieren to make those two fight on their own. That's the only way to really build their character.

    Since the demons disintegrate into nothing but mana particles when dying, it makes sense they are all interested in magic. They don't seem to be that interested in anything else. I reckon they are driven to kill humans using their specialty magic because what good is only theory? They surely must also keep experimenting with their personal magic to develop it further.

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    Aw yeah! Akshun!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    A good call from Frieren to make those two fight on their own. That's the only way to really build their character.
    More importantly, it's the only way to have a story.

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    Frieren is a battle freak, smile tells it all.

    Fren was in stealth mode and I remember Frieren telling how good she is at concealing her magic. I guess that now that she's older, she's even better.
    Also, I think the reason people can't associate Frieren with her statue is because she also is in stealth mode. But it is a permanent mode. Maybe not full Stealth, but strong enough that people do not bother her. It would totally match her behavior and easygoing way of life.

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    When Frieren brought it up the first time, it came with the implication that Fern is naturally even better at concealing her mana than Frieren herself.

    Now we know why she thought it was such a useful ability to have. Love the absolute imperious way Frieren and Fern glare down at their enemies while floating. The demon guy is right, it is purposefully demeaning to demons, as is the way that Frieren has seeded human magic systems with demon magic. They get unsettled that their "life's work" gets surpassed and amplified by 'weak' humanity.

    Stark is no slouch either, he is really strong and trained exceptionally well to react in battle appropriately. I thought it was funny that he though Fern could jump up and grab his hand from that height. Plus, he understands the value of a tactical retreat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    Plus, he understands the value of a tactical retreat.
    Does he though? I'm pretty sure that's just him being cowardly again. Because I think they two of them could have easily taken those 2 demons.

    Apparently, soloing a dragon did nothing to help him evaluate his own strength better, because he's still convinced he's a weaking.

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