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    Seems like healthy behavior...

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    Aqua trying to find his genitor from inside the entertainment industry feels wrong in the sense that said genitor was able to orchestrate Ai's murder without being caught.
    That guy probably has most of the wits and other qualities Aqua has.
    For that guy, monitoring Aqua is easy if he is still part of that industry.
    He could even be that director... instructing him to suffer instead of enjoying his acting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David75 View Post
    For that guy, monitoring Aqua is easy if he is still part of that industry.
    I think Aqua is relying on his target not knowing he's Ai's kid. And thus, not being on the lookout for him.

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    1. the father definitely knows that aqua and ruby are the kids. she told him over the phone that there are twins, and with the two of them being registered under her agent household, there isn't room for debate.
    2. that being said, he isn't necessarily the super genius Aqua is. Aqua is like what he is because of his past life as a doctor. not because of Ai's genes. also, Aqua himself isn't kind of super genius. he's just a very smart person with more life experience than it seems. we had a similar conversation back in S1, talking about how much of an advantage being a reincarnated doctor is.

    on to the episode,
    the director getting this week marking for "best girl".
    I like how they played with Kana's reflection facing the other way.

    I don't like how they shot the entire play. It's actively going against what they preach. they say that acting should be done with the entire body, and be understood even from a distance, and then put all the interesting parts in close-ups. they say they want the audience to become fans of theater, but never let us get excited for acting. sure, i get how amazing and technological the stage is, with all the effects and colors and transitions, but it's not clear how much of that is diegetic and what the audience sees. they mention blocking, but we either get to see the action from the POV of the other actors (and sometimes even closer than that), or we get a long shot from the last row with the characters barely visible. I'd really rather have the play scenes be from a middle-distance, like what someone in the 5th row would see.
    keep the artsy parts for the flashback / reaction shots - Like Arima being more and more in the dark as her career (and her mothers' state) plummets, which is a good use of animation, or Akanes' mental state, which is unphased on the outside, but completely wild on the inside. even the weird AMV of Arima & Aqua was fine, it seemed like they somehow run out of budget like 90's Gainax and had to dub static shots.

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    He knows Ai came to his remote (from Tokyo) hospital in secret. So it might be that blonde father doesn't even know he has children.
    But if that director and Akane can connect the dots, maybe that guy can too. It depends if he's around and can get close enough like those two. My guess is he might understand if he approaches Ruby, as he seems to target young (underage by our standards) female artists.

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    there's a scene in the first episode with her talking to the father from a public phone

    in the manga it's the beginning of chapter 8.

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    The director doesn't care if Aqua chooses this twisted path, as long as it makes Aqua act well. I suppose the director has also seen too much in life and became disillusioned, apart from brief moments, such as actors during their best moments He would then be chasing those moments. Alternatively the director mght be counting on Aqua coming back to his senses later. Who knows; his character is quite hard to define.

    It's sad and ironic that out of Ai's twins, Ruby is the one who really wants to shine in front of an audience, yet her opportunities to do it are few and far between. Aqua doesn't want to do it, but he's been doing it since childhood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    It's sad and ironic that out of Ai's twins, Ruby is the one who really wants to shine in front of an audience, yet her opportunities to do it are few and far between. Aqua doesn't want to do it, but he's been doing it since childhood.
    The maturity and experience he had from being an adult gave him a head start.

    Ruby is older now than she was when she died. She has no advantages from her past life.

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    I just realized if Aqua and Ruby had a baby, the child would have both of the star eyes they each have one of and possibly reincarnate Ai.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    I just realized if Aqua and Ruby had a baby, the child would have both of the star eyes they each have one of and possibly reincarnate Ai.
    this has been a popular twitter joke.

    episode 20, here's the plot you guys wanted.

    Same problems as before, I have no idea what in the play was diegetic and what wasn't. the closest thing I have to understanding how the stage feels is when the did the shot from the backstage during the actor farewell (there's some other name for the act, dunno what's it called). there were even less scenes from the audience perceptive than before. I don't believe those ropes could handle those crazy acrobatics, and they didn't do anything to make me believe they can. was the sword lightning a stage effect? how was it achieved? it was indistinguishable from normal anime sword lightning.

    and if they don't trust us to understand that Akane was putting on the Ai act with closeup on her eyes, that's fine, but they should have put the actual overlapping image at the scene, not the next one. also, a bit cruel act.

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    Yes, it does feel a bit cheap that it wasn't shown exactly how much of those wondrous effects actually were there. Although that's hardly the point of this series, but when this theater performance seems to be this whole season, and the special features of that particular theater were partially what convinced the mangaka to allow the project to proceed, it would have been fair to show that much. We saw the actors' struggle, the director's struggle, the script writers struggle, but the technical staff apparently performed miracles no sweat.

    Aqua had quite an interesting approach, which combined indirect with a very sudden direct attack.

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    And suddenly we get some plot, LOL. That twist was nice, expecting some interrogation of the director, when it suddenly turns to Himekawa.

    Now unless things progress VERY fast, I see the following problem: The director just now told us Himekawa comes from an orphanage. So ... tought luck knowing about his father?

    But wow, whoever IS the father basically slept around with several girls.

    I still fear that once the father is revealed, it becomes some bs "oh, it's THAT guy. He's actually nice and he had good reasons and therefore all is forgiven" ending. Hope I'm wrong.

    Akane continues to be best girl. God, Arima is so need and loud, literally the worst.

    "She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court

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    Akane is an empty doll. Arima is a real person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Death BOO Z View Post
    this has been a popular twitter joke.
    Why a joke? Sounds like a plan. Ruby even likes Aqua in their previous lives.
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    That had me cackling.

    As for the incest, well I guess there's a 1/4 chance of double-star, 1/2 chance of single star, and 1/4 chance of no-star.

    With the half-sibling thing, this boots Akane out of the shipping race now if there was ever one at all.

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    Wait, Akane is related to Aqua?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    That had me cackling.
    Aye, I also noticed that. It was quite funny and certainly consistent: Arima has never been happy about the whole Aqua+Akane "business" romance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Wait, Akane is related to Aqua?
    No, not sure why anyone would think that.

    "She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court

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    Ah, I got that wrong. I thought they were listing "Kurokawa (Akane), you (Himekawa) and I.."

    Alas the doomed ship still sails.

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    Episode 21


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    This episode was ruined for me by Aqua believing that story so easily. He's chasing a man crafty enough to arrange Ai's death by using a lunatic otaku as a murder weapon, who even self-disposed of himself afterwards, ending the police investigation and sealing the case officially. How does that fit some half-assed actor, who wants to stick to better female actors to raise his own value? My first thought after this was that the real culprit is, in fact, a serial killer. That double suicide would then be just another murder meant to mask his presence further by creating a dead biological father scapegoat. It's exceedingly annoying that Aqua, who was only living for revenge (and to protect Ruby) is now depicted to be this shallow with the whole revenge business. His trauma was so severe it made him drop on his knees and vomit if he derived joy from acting (show business), yet this was all it took to convince him? So disappointing story writing.

    In fact I'm not even willing to trust that Uehara dude so easily. He might have his own reasons to reveal only a certain kind of (fake) truth to Aqua. It's not like they would have much in common or would have known each other for that long. Being, supposedly, half-brothers is quite meaningless if there's nothing more than words on paper going for it. They both have their own lives and circumstances. We know little of Uehara's past.

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