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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    I feel really dumb, sorry.
    Last hint because beyond this to confirm which conclusion is true would be spoiler territory: This is a math problem.

    The details are all laid out because we already know the children's ages and Ai's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    Last hint because beyond this to confirm which conclusion is true would be spoiler territory: This is a math problem.

    The details are all laid out because we already know the children's ages and Ai's.

    Ok, you're making me feel like a retard. I'll do all the possible numbers now to see if there's anything that is shocking:


    Math hint time. Taiki Himekawa is 22. Aqua/Ruby are 16. Ai was 16 when she gave birth to them.

    Taiki was 6 years old when Ai was 16/17.
    Himekawa: 22
    Himekawa: 6 at birth of AquaRuby
    AquaRuby: 16
    Ai: 16 at birth of AquaRuby
    Ai: 10 at birth of Himekawa
    Ai: 32 if alive in present

    Conclusions? No idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    Given the often lack of gendered pronouns in Japanese, it's not that clear. But Himekawa Airi (the mother) was murdered by her husband, who then killed himself.
    I'm not sure what the truth is in the story, but this scene in particular is not consistent with that:
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    In Japanese, he said, "俺が追っていたくず男はとっくの昔に殺されていたていうつまらない落ち。”

    That is exactly what the subtitle says. The verb used was "korosarateita", which means "have been killed." In Japanese, you don't say that when someone suicides. They would use many other terms like "jisatsu shita" or "jigai shita", but in this scene, Aqua was very specific in saying "The man had been killed." He was killed by another party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Ok, you're making me feel like a retard.
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    Conclusions? No idea.
    I'll cut you a break. You plotted out the rest of them, but how old is Aqua/Ruby/Taiki's real father if Akane is right?

    Do you suppose he was much older than Ai or the same age as Ai?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    I'll cut you a break. You plotted out the rest of them, but how old is Aqua/Ruby/Taiki's real father if Akane is right?

    Do you suppose he was much older than Ai or the same age as Ai?
    Ok, now I'm starting to see where this is going, but we can't know his age, can we?

    The real father was of age X when impregnated Himekawa's mom. Ai was 10 yo when Himekawa was born, she birthed AquaRuby at age 16. That means the real started his relationship with Ai when she was somewhere from 10 to 15 years old.

    So we're looking at anything from an early genius playboy who knocked up a woman when he was a teenager himself, then proceeded to Ai who might have been his own age, but then left, and somehow Ai had no ill feelings towards him, instead reacted with lots of understanding.

    OR we're looking at someone who was a grown man when he knocked up Himekawa's mom, then went for Ai who might have been barely in puberty and knocked her up when she was 15.

    Either way, I now assume that the "not his father" found out about Himekawa not being his real son, then killed his wife and then himself. Considering how dramatic this anime is, it's unclear whether he found out by chance or because the real father sent him a note or something that raised his suspicion.

    HOWEVER, was saw in this last episode that the real father is very young looking still. So either he's blessed with amazing genes, or the anime producers suck, OR he might also be involved with some supernatural event in his life (eternal youth?).

    In all of this, I'm trying to find a possibility of how he could NOT be a bad guy, because Ai showed now contempt toward the real father, and with how the real father was drawn in the scene we saw, he has that "Kirito-aura", like whatever happened, he's tOtAlLy not at fault. And anime in general shying away from giving us clear-cut villains, especially when they're attractive.

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    Long fluffy hair, hat, sunglasses, short scene and anime. Hard to tell that a sub 40 guy feels very old in that context.
    Impregnates Himeka's mum at 15 because he's a super genius manipulative very good looking guy with blond hair.
    He's 20/21 when he impregnates Ai and Ruby/Aqua are born.
    He's now around 36/37. You can even push to his 17 with Himekawa's mom, some males grow a lot more manly from 15 to 17.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David75 View Post
    Long fluffy hair, hat, sunglasses, short scene and anime. Hard to tell that a sub 40 guy feels very old in that context.
    Impregnates Himeka's mum at 15 because he's a super genius manipulative very good looking guy with blond hair.
    He's 20/21 when he impregnates Ai and Ruby/Aqua are born.
    He's now around 36/37. You can even push to his 17 with Himekawa's mom, some males grow a lot more manly from 15 to 17.

    Ok, but then there's nothing horrible about any of this, other than him leaving Himekawa's mom and then also Ai.

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    @MFauli

    You still have a math fail in there, and something that's a red flag statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    You still have a math fail in there, and something that's a red flag statement.
    If he was the same age as Himekawa's mom, he'd have been, like, 22, when Ai was 15/16.

    A red flag for real life. But not so much for anime. That's like a Sailor Moon/Tuxedo Mask level age gap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    If he was the same age as Himekawa's mom, he'd have been, like, 22, when Ai was 15/16.

    A red flag for real life. But not so much for anime. That's like a Sailor Moon/Tuxedo Mask level age gap.
    Ai was a very savvy teen, but that doesn't make it okay. The series goes out of its way to highlight abuses within the industry in a realistic way. Creeping on teen idols by older men is not okay.

    And if the twins' father was the same age (or very close) to Ai? He wouldn't have been a teen, because Taiki was 6 when the twins were born.

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    Very early 20s and 15. Not uncommon regardless of morals.

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    16 is legal age of consent in Germany, and under certain circumstances I believe it goes as low as 14, but don't cite me when you're in front of the judge, lol. Anyway, my point: If 22yo real-father with 15yo Ai is supposed to be the "horrible oversight" of Aqua's, then you guys need to chill with your choice of words, lol.

    If it was 22 and 12, then I'd raise an eyebrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Anyway, my point: If 22yo real-father with 15yo Ai is supposed to be the "horrible oversight" of Aqua's, then you guys need to chill with your choice of words, lol.
    Now you're mixing things up. The oversight is that Akane caught is that Aqua was only assuming that Taiki's legal father was also the twins. Akane pointed out that Aqua was overlooking that the twins' father was also Taiki's. Very different conclusion.

    The "horrible conclusion" is the math involved, dependent on the age of the twins' father. Neither option in the potential range is good. One is a lot worse and you're downplaying it, unintentionally.

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    If the biological father is a very young chap, it's quite frightful he still had the means, will, and attitude to facilitate murders.

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    Aqua defiantly suspects an older mam. the producer, the director, etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    If the biological father is a very young chap, it's quite frightful he still had the means, will, and attitude to facilitate murders.
    Hence my theory that this guy is also involved with magic stuff, possibly also rebirthed. Think of someone like Rudy, except going further "into the darkness", making use of his new, attractive body >_>

    Edit: The one big thing I still can't wrap my head around is: Why was Ai always so forgiving towards the guy that left her with two babies? Is she just that dumb of a bitch or is there another secret involved that gives it a good reason?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Edit: The one big thing I still can't wrap my head around is: Why was Ai always so forgiving towards the guy that left her with two babies? Is she just that dumb of a bitch or is there another secret involved that gives it a good reason?
    Maybe he was younger than her? She didn't want to ruin a young up and coming talent by creating a scandal. Of course, that includes her own career.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Maybe he was younger than her? She didn't want to ruin a young up and coming talent by creating a scandal. Of course, that includes her own career.
    If the real dad was this young, lol. Then I guess the suicide-dad killed his wife because he found out she's a pedophile? oh my, this kinda sounds dumb

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    I still think based on the scene I referenced in an earlier post that the father was killed, and the wife suicided, just because he was "korosareteta." That, or Aqua did not understand what actually happened and described it incorrectly to Akane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    I still think based on the scene I referenced in an earlier post that the father was killed, and the wife suicided, just because he was "korosareteta." That, or Aqua did not understand what actually happened and described it incorrectly to Akane.
    So you think the wife killed her husband to stop him from telling anyone and she killed herself afterwards out of shame/guilt?

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