Chainsaw Man

[KrayZ33]

Chainsaw Man



"Chainsaw Man follows the story of Denji, an impoverished young man who after making a contract with a dog-like devil named Pochita, he fuses with Denji, granting him the ability to transform parts of his body into chainsaws. Denji eventually joins the Public Safety Devil Hunters, a government agency focused on fighting against devils whenever they become a threat to the world. "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chainsaw_Man
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Episode 1

Uhm... lol, for some reason I actually cried when The doggo-demon sacrificed himself for him.
I have no idea why that short bit was already so touching for me.
Maybe because I love dogs and I think that the poor/homless guy and his loyal dog "trope" is just too beautiful. Doesn't matter if it's anime or real.
Giving up the little wealth you have to feed your best buddy, an animal just hits me right in the feels.

Great episode imho. Seems interesting, sounds interesting, I hope it will remain that way.
Did expect alot and got a lot.

[DarthEnderX]

That man is made of chainsaws!

[Kraco]

I liked the first episode. I wouldn't really say the plot was anything special, quite textbook, but it worked well. Maybe the MC's personality isn't quite what I'd prefer, seeing how he was ready to sell parts of his own body to pay back his dead old man's debt, and then afterwards he was selling his work almost for free. And there was absolutely no honour in it because it was all mafia stuff, it was just stupidity. In other words, he's a hopeless idiot. However, I didn't sense the excruciatingly bad Japanese "a hero must always be piss-poor" trope, so at least the dude still functions as an MC in my eyes. On the other hand, as humble as it was, he still had got a dream, which also redeems him in my eyes.

The demon dog sacrificing itself to save the dude was a nice, if expected twist. I liked the ending even more, though, when the official demon hunter woman actually gave the MC a hug. What's one hug compared to destroying a whole horde of zombies and the demon behind the zombies? If she can recruit someone capable of that by giving him a hug, it's quite a bargain. Yet for the dude it was already fulfilling a part of his dream, for which his dog sacrificed its life for.

[DarthEnderX]

I can't imagine the dog is dead for real. It seems like a pretty blatant mascot character. I'm sure there will be more scenes of the dog talking to him inside his head.

[KrayZ33]

I can't imagine the dog is dead for real. It seems like a pretty blatant mascot character. I'm sure there will be more scenes of the dog talking to him inside his head.

While I agree, this would make the whole scene worse for me.
I'd respect them more if they created than Wan-Saw good boy just for that episode and maybe a few flashbacks.

But I doubt it, especially since he started talking.

On the other hand, I wouldn't mind it if there is some kind of issue with him being a demon-thing now that will bring up the little guy again.
Maybe the goodest boy will eventually take over if he doesn't watch out and MC will turn into a problem-demon.
I was surprised for example that the woman said he isn't possessed. I guess that someone in that universe is only called possessed if he can't act on his own anymore or something.

[David75]

Pochita spoke to Denji in his dream right before he gets out of the trash container.
To me this indicates a direct mind to mind connexion as Pochita was fusing with Denji.

Cop said Denji isn't possessed because Pochita didn't take control, it transfered all of his powers/abilities to Denji and supposedly abandoned his own spirit/life. But maybe not. After all Pochita said it wanted to see Denji's dreams fullfiled, as in be there to watch them happen.
I don't know if it really makes a difference. We'll see if the subject is ever coming back.

I like the fact that not all demons are necessary there for evil deeds. Pochita probably had his needs involving sucking blood and maybe we'll get flash-backs to clarify this. But in the end it did something so selfless. So for now we have very basic demons to be treated as mindless beasts (tomato and others), evil ones (zombifier) and Pochita class. I guess the later is the rarity for the show to provide enough gore action scenes.

[Buffalobiian]

"Show me your dreams" is difficult to interpret because in anime it always feels like the body counts as Pochita. I normally wouldn't have 100% certaintay that Pochita would retain cognitive functions based on that line alone.

I didn't really enjoy the animation. There was enough CGI in there for it to feel janky.

[neflight86]

Agreed. Serviceable premiere, but the abundance of CG may bring this down a notch. I heard this was slated for a mere 12 eps, which I can assure you would not capture the story as intended. I hope I misheard.

Pochita is cute enough to stand out among the remaining character designs, but feeds into the eclectic nature of the series. Denji is aimless and aloof, not grasping the existential horror of his predicament but for a moment, but can find some happiness with his cute dog demon. Strange.

[KrayZ33]

In my opinion the CGI animations made the characters move a whole lot better than what we normaly see.
I wouldn't mind if all animes would use it like that, although that would probably get boring after a while, since there is something about being able to see a multitude of animation styles.

[shinta|hikari]

I was okay with the CGI. I normally am not, but here it was acceptable. Not a good thing, imo, but not bad either.

BTW, when Denji spoke to the girl in the suit, what he said is actually "Can you let me fuck you?" but can also mean "Can I embrace you?" in Japanese.

[Kraco]

BTW, when Denji spoke to the girl in the suit, what he said is actually "Can you let me fuck you?" but can also mean "Can I embrace you?" in Japanese.

That's something else... Not that he would have been in any shape to do it. Still, if those folks' job is to slaughter demons all day long and in the process witness the fates of demons' victims, like a warehouse full of corpses, I doubt she would have much cared about any rudeness.

[DarthEnderX]

I wonder if he has a chainsaw penis...

[David75]

99.99% sure he has since all his body parts are now linked with chains.
But he probably can't score girls and certainly would not in his chainsaw form.

[MFauli]

Overall okay first episode. And yes, the devil dog isn't dead, 100% still inside his mind.

What I didn't like, though, is how it feels like the awkwardness of Japanese live-action movies is now fully manifesting itself in anime. There's just so many weird things being said or shown that, if I were watching this with another person in the room with me, would make me feel super embarrassed. Like, why did he sell his balls and an eye? Why didn't he run away? Why is everyone talking about devils as if it's normal? Why did the girl hug him and treat him so friendly? Why didn't he stay in the garbage can and wait for the zombie devil to go away?

Maybe some of this will be answered, but I don't like being thrown into the middle like this without any information. Honestly, I expected more in all categories, whether it's writing or animation. This was alright, but definitely not the MUST WATCH OF THE SEASON OMGZ!!1 that people had hyped it up to before.

[KrayZ33]

Overall okay first episode. And yes, the devil dog isn't dead, 100% still inside his mind.

What I didn't like, though, is how it feels like the awkwardness of Japanese live-action movies is now fully manifesting itself in anime. There's just so many weird things being said or shown that, if I were watching this with another person in the room with me, would make me feel super embarrassed. Like, why did he sell his balls and an eye? Why didn't he run away? Why is everyone talking about devils as if it's normal? Why did the girl hug him and treat him so friendly? Why didn't he stay in the garbage can and wait for the zombie devil to go away?

Did you somehow unlearn how to watch movies, read books and enjoy media?
I mean all media, not just anime or japanese shows.

Aside from most points obviously being adressed in some way in the future, while other actually HAVE been adressed already - the bolded part is what is really weird.
Did you consider that... it would have been boring to watch and be an awful show if he had not?
"Why did Superman use his powers" is basically what you asked.

I really struggle to follow you most of the time, you must be really unfun to be around when watching shows or movies. Especially since you somehow expect everything to be explained in less than a second for some reason instead of trying to think for yourself even once, why is that? That's not how media and art is done. These aren't documentaries you are watching and if they aren't and do it like that, it's actually for the worse and every critique would point it out as a flaw and say how unnecessary it is.

What the heck - I think you shouldn't worry about other people watching this show with you. There is something you have to take care of first that would make another person even want to watch a show together with you in one room, lol.

Would you even be *able* to understand what is happening in shows like CP:Edgerunners ? Considering how that show is basically all in on the "show, don't tell" approach. Sorry, not sorry, to dick on you again once more, but I don't believe, considering your points here, that you can even say anything meaningful about the writing of a show and no one would even have a clue what a show would have to be told or look like to please you. Sometimes I think you are just trying to be contrary to... something.. I don't even know what. I guess it's no fluke that you hold shows like that semi-Sex-Show from last season in high regards while others immediatly see it as trash, for good reason.

Oh btw, it's not like I want you to reconsider liking this show more or anything. My gripe is with the arguments solely.

[MFauli]

Did you consider that... it would have been boring to watch and be an awful show if he had not?

???
It would have been much more interesting had he taken a smart direction like that. That would have shown that this show is more grounded and based on reality. Instead it instantly went ultra-seinen-shounen for no reason.

And yes, I don't enjoy most media nowadays, because writers have given up to write coherent stories. It's why I mostly watch older stuff, whether it's anime, hollywood movies or videogames. Replaying "Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance" right now and its writing is sooo much better than that of the newer games.

[DarthEnderX]

That would have shown that this show is more grounded and based on reality.

...the show with the guy made of chainsaws?

[MFauli]

...the show with the guy made of chainsaws?

Seen Parasyte?

[Kraco]

Why didn't he stay in the garbage can and wait for the zombie devil to go away?

He wasn't in the right mind to even consider his situation. He knew he died for a fact, getting torn into pieces, yet somehow he came back to life, perfectly healthy, and it seemed like his only friend and ally in the world sacrificed itself for him. He jumped up because it was the natural reaction in his shock. In other words, he wasn't thinking about anything. He only, again, became aware of the zombies when they noticed him and the demon told the zombies to eat him.

Like, why did he sell his balls and an eye? Why didn't he run away?

Because he clearly isn't the sharpest tooth in a chainsaw chain. There are a lot of people in this world who aren't as smart as they could be under different circumstances. And then there are just people who were born stupid due to their genes. It's possible his background made him grow up with insufficient nutrients and he's lacking education as well.

Why is everyone talking about devils as if it's normal?

They clearly are normal in that world. So normal there's a government agency established to get rid of them, but there's also a black market trading demon organs.

Why did the girl hug him and treat him so friendly?

Because he asked? And she sees potential in him. Or at least I hope so. If your job was killing demons and you came upon a person highly competent in that trade but possibly not yet employed, wouldn't you try to recruit such a person?

[MFauli]

He wasn't in the right mind to even consider his situation. He knew he died for a fact, getting torn into pieces, yet somehow he came back to life, perfectly healthy, and it seemed like his only friend and ally in the world sacrificed itself for him. He jumped up because it was the natural reaction in his shock. In other words, he wasn't thinking about anything. He only, again, became aware of the zombies when they noticed him and the demon told the zombies to eat him.



Because he clearly isn't the sharpest tooth in a chainsaw chain. There are a lot of people in this world who aren't as smart as they could be under different circumstances. And then there are just people who were born stupid due to their genes. It's possible his background made him grow up with insufficient nutrients and he's lacking education as well.



They clearly are normal in that world. So normal there's a government agency established to get rid of them, but there's also a black market trading demon organs.



Because he asked? And she sees potential in him. Or at least I hope so. If your job was killing demons and you came upon a person highly competent in that trade but possibly not yet employed, wouldn't you try to recruit such a person?

Kraco, I want to say but this: All of these are your interpretations. I'm not wrong to question these things, just like you're not wrong to answer them like this for yourself. But I have a problem when you guys often answer my criticism with your personal opinion as if I'm objectively wrong.

I'll keep watching and waiting for answers. Now return to talk about the anime and not about my criticism.