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    BTW, before I forget, about Aki's scene striking the lighter filled with regret... I loved it in Cowboy Bebop, and I still love it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neflight86 View Post
    BTW, before I forget, about Aki's scene striking the lighter filled with regret... I loved it in Cowboy Bebop, and I still love it now.
    I just found it funny the dude was going to smoke in a hospital room. Well, it was a good scene, I admit, since it triggered his memories, plus smoking in hospital is hardly anything gangsta from a man hunting demons for a living.

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    The 90's were a wild time, indeed.

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    I have heard people were smoking in planes, even long hauls... haha

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    Episode 11:

    This will continue or will there be a break after episode 12? :/

    Eisode was only okay. I'm not a fan of the "pretty girl kills strong men without effort" that Makina did, was totally unearned, only thanks to her abilities.

    Also "violence devil"? How is that one not MUCH stronger than the gun devil?! Violence is literally a tier above in the hierarchy compared to guns, which causes one type of violence.

    Glad to see the spider devil, though, that one made too much sense.

    btw did they say whether devils only appear in Japan? Weird to have all these prominent devils gathered there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Eisode was only okay. I'm not a fan of the "pretty girl kills strong men without effort" that Makina did, was totally unearned, only thanks to her abilities.
    Functionally, that was no different than her shooting/coercing the 'strong men' with a gun. At the regular human level, simple human tricks and tools will suffice. Her supernatural contracts shouldn't count as any less effort. Its like Balalaika capping a rival mob boss in Black Lagoon: no arm wrestling needed when the balance of power is clear.

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Also "violence devil"? How is that one not MUCH stronger than the gun devil?! Violence is literally a tier above in the hierarchy compared to guns, which causes one type of violence.
    Likely it is weaker because the subject of violence is more abstract and vague than something concrete like a gun or sword, so it evokes less fear on its own behalf. Also, you're more interested in the contradiction of the violence devil than an actual angel devil?

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    btw did they say whether devils only appear in Japan? Weird to have all these prominent devils gathered there.
    It's worldwide. Makima listened to the council of men talking about other countries trying to weaponize them for war, and the Gun devil debuted in the good ol' US of A.

    I like the Yakuza claiming their own worth and 'protection' from even worse things, while Makima says that only flies when you're the government, like a true suit.

    Future devil is kinda fun, and reminds us that Aki is gonna bite it big time.

    Is the snake devil able to regurgitate devils it has eaten or something?

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    I was wondering when the angel in the intro was finally going to show up.

    Are a lot of people scared of angels? Is there going to be a Santa Claus Devil next?

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Eisode was only okay. I'm not a fan of the "pretty girl kills strong men without effort" that Makina did, was totally unearned, only thanks to her abilities.
    That's...the whole point of the abilities.

    None of these contracts are "earned" power. You pay a price and you get a power.

    Quote Originally Posted by neflight86 View Post
    Future devil is kinda fun, and reminds us that Aki is gonna bite it big time.
    But it's gonna be fucking epic! Looking forward to it!

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    Topknot-Aki certainly isn't getting a break. He wasn't faring that well in the previous fight, and now he's already in trouble.

    I'm not quite sure what was the point of separating and each of them going on alone. Power is known to hit the road when things get a bit bad, plus she's an idiot. Denji certainly won't flee, but he's also an idiot. Aki probably overestimates himself all the time, so he could have used more firepower by his side. Above all, it's not like the targets were going to flee anywhere from a besieged building. I feel like Topknot-Aki shouldn't be put in charge of anything much because he's definitely not level-headed, as calm as he usually looks like.

    I still maintain my earlier assessment that Makima is a real monster, and not just because of her vast powers. Even Hip-Flask-Kishibe seems to think so.

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    It takes a man of great confidence (or inebriation) to essentially threaten Makima point blank like that.

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    He is the strongest, after all. Also, it looks like Makima's powers can be resisted. Snake lady got a nosebleed but didn't die. This nosebleed killing tech seems different from the crushing demon powers she showed before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    He is the strongest, after all. Also, it looks like Makima's powers can be resisted. Snake lady got a nosebleed but didn't die. This nosebleed killing tech seems different from the crushing demon powers she showed before.
    I already deleted the ep, but didn't the episode just end with her nosebleed starting? Either she dies first things next episode or you made a "prediction" ;o

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    I was thinking the nosebleed was a red herring, and wasn't about Makima killing her but just a result of her using her contracted power. She now has the ghost in addition to the snake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    He is the strongest, after all. Also, it looks like Makima's powers can be resisted. Snake lady got a nosebleed but didn't die.
    This is how I interpreted it.

    Makima used her power on her, but she just resisted/regened the damage or whatever.


    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    This nosebleed killing tech seems different from the crushing demon powers she showed before.
    Yeah. She's not sacrificing people for this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    Yeah. She's not sacrificing people for this one.
    I thought she sacrificed all those gangsters, once she got the names out of them. She looked so happy walking out of the house, as if she had just enjoyed a pleasant mass murder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    I thought she sacrificed all those gangsters, once she got the names out of them. She looked so happy walking out of the house, as if she had just enjoyed a pleasant mass murder.
    I don't know if they'd just sit there and let her cast multiple spells like she did in the temple. That seemed quite time consuming. Actually, I can't remember if being at a temple was also a requirement.

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    She asked for a temple on a high point.
    I wonder if the temple was for the soon to be dead guys to feel better ?
    Or maybe when using that contract she's open to some attacks and being in a temple reduces that risk ?
    Leylines ? temples are place where spiritual/magical/earth energies are stronger, might be a reason too, coupled with height to extend her attack range.

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    I'm still hung up on the "violence devil". Some weeks ago, you guys said to me "no vague concept devils" when I talked about it, now we have confirmation of vague concept devils existing. That just opens the flood doors to so many shenanigan devils. I mean, lol, if this were the real world, there'd have to be a "muslim terrorist devil" somewhere A "Trump devil". And do devils stop at things that are real or can it be fictional things, too? Like a "dragon devil" or "magic devil" or "Death Eater devil"? Where does it stop.

    Btw has it been made clear yet whether Makima is a human with contracts or a devil herself?

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    Yeah, if they have umbrella concepts like that, one would assume there's a Death Devil that's by far the most powerful.

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    And do devils stop at things that are real or can it be fictional things, too?
    We've already seen Zombie Devil.

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    Btw has it been made clear yet whether Makima is a human with contracts or a devil herself?
    Hasn't been specified, but seems unlikely they'd let a devil run an anti-devil department.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post

    Hasn't been specified, but seems unlikely they'd let a devil run an anti-devil department.
    Unless it's incredibly smart and crafty.

    With a good scenario, Makima being a devil or fiend could be a good ride

    After all all I remember is Makima killing humans, I don't remember her killing a devil.

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    Either Makima is human who has lost a good deal of her psychological humanity as compensation to the devils or she was a psychopath to begin with. In fact having been that since childhood seems more likely, and it's exactly why she keeps getting very good deals from the devils, allowing her to become so powerful. Devils recognise her for what she is, a monster, and they don't demand eyes, limbs, or kidneys from her, instead they are delighted to help her, knowing she's enjoying killing humans as much as the devils themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    I'm still hung up on the "violence devil". Some weeks ago, you guys said to me "no vague concept devils" when I talked about it, now we have confirmation of vague concept devils existing.
    I'm starting to suspect the author never created that many rules for the world of this series. However, one thing that I'd consider very, very likely, if I still wanted to imagine the rules that might not exist, is that there are probably multiple devils of the same kind around. Perhaps the more something is feared, it doesn't necessarily create a single stronger devil, but it would primarily create more devils of that kind. Something else then allows an individual devil to get stronger and stronger.

    We already know that if a specific devil is feared, it can get stronger pretty quickly; remember the hotel arc. If you think about it now, the Gun Devil we keep hearing about is quite smart, creating networks with enticed mafia goons and definitely corrupting people even outside of mafia, including the Public Safety agency, because, like I said before, how the strike against Makima's group earlier was arranged, it required inside information. So, as far as I can see, the Gun Devil has been fully intentionally creating a situation where it's feared more and more globally. Yet I bet it's only one of the many gun devils (unless it has eaten the rest over the years). People might not have recognised it before it was already helluva strong.

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