My hype came from reading the manga and seeing this was being adapted by, what looked like, the same MAPPA team that did Jujutsu Kaisen. I have also come to appreciate and value anime that has a unique feel to it in a sea of paint by numbers isekai/fantasy, and so far this is great for me. Makes sense it isn't for everyone, but I expect it will be something worth watching, at the least, if you stick with it.
I'm not slamming the series or claiming it is overrated. It does interesting things thematically and narratively, but not hooking me. It is getting the three-episode test like I said I would from the preview thread.Originally Posted by DarthEnderX
I just don't expect it to pass.
It's different when you're not watching the first episode the same day. The hype got more severe, like everyone praising the OP as the most innovative and amazing OP ever. Which like...no. It has film references in it. Cool. Moving on.
Jujutsu Kaisen has no hook either and I've never given a single shit about that series despite its huge prominence in Japan. Demon Slayer had a hook in that it proceeds on realistic time frames, then compounded by revealing a setting twist of being Taishō era after leading on in the first episodes that it was set further back, which was enough.
There's some really over-inflated hyped series out there, especially ones that aren't even action-shonen. But Chainsaw Man isn't overrated. It meets expectations.
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I don't discuss anime elsewhere and youtube doesn't give me trailers.
I see a picture on AniChart and decide on if I like that picture (and the studio/description I guess), or if someone here tells me something is good and I trust their judgement then I watch it.
So.. I knew some were looking forward to Chainsaw Man, but that's about it.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Thing is: AniChart puts the most hyped anime first, so that's how you know, too :P
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
I sort with countdown or airdate... no hype
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
Episode 3
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This was a pretty good episode. I appreciate how the characters do have their own personalities, how devils are like devils, not just humans with cosmetic horns or whatever. Power is clearly different from a human. A sociopath could be somewhat similar, but I'm sure there are still differences beyond that. One interesting thing is that the devils possibly understand each other much worse than they understand humans. It has to be because they normally have no use for each other but need to be able to read their prey to some extent.
I wonder if the cat is still alive. I guess not, which means Denji won't get to cop a feel.
You know, I will be furious if Power-chan is being forgiven the fact that she was serious about sacrificing Denji to save her cat with a slap on the wrist or some mild bs.
That aside, I'm fully in with this anime and the entire episode was fun to watch. I'm really looking forward to next week. If this keeps getting better at the current rate, it might end up living up to the initial hype after all.
Btw is that anime made by Studio Orange? Not only does it have 3d-aimation that's rather good, the opening song also reminds me of Beastars' style.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
Okay, the idea that "every devil has a thing associated with it, and the more frightened people are of that thing, the more powerful the devil is" is an interesting hook. Reminds me of Fables.
Chainsaw Devil and Blood Devil should both be pretty strong. I woulda though Zombie Devil woulda been a lot stronger though.
Too bad for Bat Devil this was written pre-covid...
Zombie Devil was hella strong, but it wasn't a fiend. A fiend is a level higher than devils (because why else would they want to be fiends). And Denji is an even rarer creature, a human with the heart of a devil. I bet that zombie devil could've made short work of Power or Dollar-Sasuke. Those two shit on Denji because they have no idea what his chainsaw form is capable of. Makima does.
Peace.
Not sure why you think Power is that weak.
That reminds me, why IS Discount Sasuke in the reject squad? What's his deal. He must have one.
Because Power could've rescued her cat if she were strong, but she didn't.
Dollarsuke was saved by Makima, that's the reason he's in her squad.
Peace.
So Denji is at the top of the power curve for the moment ? Save Makima we don't know much about ?
That bat devil is right to be surprised by Denji's power density. After all he loves and throws that car like a peble...
Also he let that devil mess his body as if it's not a problem at all.
Like he's on a another level... Because he recovers so fast.
With what we've seen, although Denji was very skilled at managing devils, he was just human and Pochita didn't seem that powerful. Yet the combo feels insanely OP.
Or it's just an intro phase. After all Makima thinks of Denji as interresting. So my guess is that far more powerful beings will start to pop up
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
The board meeting with Makima and the geezers was quite interesting. It's quite clear this experiment with devils/fiends, and anything else Makima finds intriguing, has a much deeper political meaning. Japan doesn't want to officially, transparently, be found experimenting with weaponising devils, so they are doing it like this, in a sort of law enforcement form, which is much softer, superficially, than a military unit. Yet if hostile countries are doing it, Japan can't fall hopelessly behind. Bureaucratically this experimental unit is detached from pretty much everything, by the looks of it, which does give Makima a lot of freedom, but it also means the government can wash its hands of the whole thing very quickly if something happens and deny anything big was ever going on. I'd say this explains how Makima so offhandedly told Denji that if he doesn't work properly in the unit, he will be exterminated as a devil.
Looking at the very beginning of this episode, I'd say Makima is only concerned about the public image of her unit, so the line is drawn at anything that attracts public attention. Whatever goes on inside the unit probably doesn't matter as much, including Power behaving like a traitor here. Of course only the next episode will reveal if my assumption is correct or not.
Denji understands why Power did what she did. He only had Pochita after all. I bet he will forgive her and keep the betrayal a secret after copping a feel.
Peace.
That's a good point. They can't keep fighting the bat devil secret, as it happened in the middle of a busy street, but anything leading to that can be hidden.
I thought the reasoning is that the cat would be used as a hostage; she didn't want to put it in danger. I don't think strength can help much in that situation. It looked like she gave up hope after it was eaten, got depressed, and ceased resisting.
I liked how Power snapped to attention when Makima asked them to 'please quiet down', like she was afraid, while Denji just kept standing there with his gums flapping. One of them has reason to fear her.
Strength matters in hostage situations, if you are fast and powerful enough to rescue the hostage before it gets killed. Power didn't have that ability, whereas Denji saved a ton of humans while battling batbane.
Best parts of the episode:
Peace.
The girl is called "Power"... why's that if she's weak - betcha she isn't - at all.
I also don't understand where you are getting or coming from that you think fiends are stronger than devils or vice versa, that has neither been mentioned nor implied as far as I can tell. Or has it?
And why do you think devils want to become fiends? That as well hasn't been mentioned.
Considering Good-Boy made a pact with Denji like that to survive kinda tells the opposite.
He didn't do it because he wanted power, he wanted to survive, at least if we go by what Denji said at that time
The only other line regarding that was:
"when a devil takes control over a human corpse, you get a fiend". Or was there something else?
Either way, the best part about this episode was the irony of Power trusting the word of a devil.
But the whole thing was awesome.
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When a devil takes over a human corpse, it becomes a fiend. If it doesn't become more powerful, why do that? Why not stick with its original devil form? At the very least, it seems to remove the need to consume blood, since Power doesn't seem to need to drink blood to maintain herself. That's where I got the fiends are stronger than devils, at the very least if its the same devil becoming a fiend. Naturally, there can be variances where a fiend is weaker than an originally high level devil.
As for Pochita giving his heart to Denji, that's because he cared for Denji and wanted to see his dream, even if Pochita himself ceased to exist (in his current form) to do so. If Pochita just wanted to survive, he could've possessed Denji and become a fiend, like Denji himself suggested. Denji is NOT a fiend. His case is special, as Makima mentioned.
Peace.
My guess would have been that weak, very non-humanoid devils would want to become fiends in order to infiltrate the human society better. Whether that works or not is another question, but I doubt weak devils would be able to think that far anyway. Possibly a weak devil would become stronger in the process as well. It's hard to see a strong devil becoming stronger. But then again, from all the xianxia I've read, I suspect also in East Asian traditions the human form could be considered the ultimate one, so perhaps it simply is desirable for the devils, no questions asked.
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