I haven't met people that completely changed like that, so to me it's too unrealistic to be funny, especially repeatedly. We all know examples like Haley Joel Osment, but even he has the same general appearnce kid or adult, doesn't matter. I don'T know. This "joke" just feels gross, like Fujimiya underwent surgery or something. Can't help but now enjoy this joke. Fortunately, the other jokes are great.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
I mean, just look up "Ugly Duckling Before and After" for the easiest examples.
It very much happens.
Even googling that term, the transformations are believable and are done through make up, a haircut, weight loss, and just normal aging through puberty.
In this case, Fujimiya looks like a wrinkly, ugly, 40-year-old man and then became a normal anime woman. I understand it is intentionally hyperbolic, but if we judge using what we are presented, she must have had extensive plastic surgery to achieve such a transformation.
EDIT:
I just realized Fujimiya showered and still looked like herself, so she didn't even have makeup on to achieve her transformation, making it even more likely she had cosmetic work done.
To be clear, I still find the joke funny, especially because the difference is so extreme. It is definitely not realistic, though, if surgery didn't happen.
Last edited by shinta|hikari; Mon, 08-01-2022 at 08:25 AM.
Peace.
Just why do we even (semi-seriously) discuss this....
Might as well go all the way "when she hit MC, that would've hurt in real life and he'd probably have to go to the hospital"-something-something
It's a joke and that's it. I have no flipping idea why this joke is any less believable than all the other ones so why did it even come up. Or... I know why it came upbut ....you know what I mean.
Last edited by KrayZ33; Mon, 08-01-2022 at 02:35 PM.
A forum about anime exists to write about thoughts relating to anime. These threads exist to share thoughts about ongoing episodes. Thoughts can be about obersvations praise criticism, etc.. And I criticize this particular job, while praising other elements. But for WHATEVER reason, you cannot cope with someone not liking that particular joke. I find it a bad joke, because she's literally a different person in those flashbacks. Not an "ugly duckling" situation. And a punch to the face is a regular occurrence in anime. A character looking entirely different as a kid is something I've never encountered to this degree.Originally Posted by KrayZ33
Just why do we even (semi-seriously) discuss this....
Might as well go all the way "when she hit MC, that would've hurt in real life and he'd probably have to go to the hospital"-something-something
It's a joke and that's it. I have no flipping idea why this joke is any less believable than all the other ones so why did it even come up. Or... I know why it came up
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
It's a gag, and one you both (MFauli and shinta) are taking far too seriously.
Do you think a character's face transforms into a Joestar or Kenshiro when they parody those? Do girls eyes go completely white when they give an homage to Glass Mask?
It's a gag.
Fujimiya's plumper face, contorted expression from a sneer, and her hideous bowl haircut from elementary school is obviously exaggerated for effect. It explains why her middle school femininity and now college age sexual appeal doesn't really work on Takefumi. She's liked him the whole time. She bullied him because that's what stupid girls do to the boys the like. The exaggerated features emphasize that.
She didn't get plastic surgery, wtf is wrong with the both of you?! It's stylistic.
When the Uncle described how everyone in the otherworld is exceptionally attractive by our standards, the art leveled up to show it and the bandits turned into ikemen for a flash. The otherworlders don't morph back and forth.
If you personally don't find it funny, I'm leaving that up to cultural differences in humor. We encounter those issues all the time across many series.
All I'll say is that I've never seen this kind of joke taken that far. For example, take Great Teacher Onizuka. In comedic scenes, this anime distorts the characters' face, going from anime faces to "realistic" Japanese faces. But even there, they're still recognizable as the same person.
In Fujimiya's case, it's not just a distortion. It's completely different face. A different person. Hence why the gag didn't land with me, because it's so cheap to just use a completely different face. It'd be funnier if she was recognizable, but way uglier. I mean, ffs, I thought her younger self was the younger version of the uncle ...
We don't need to make this a long debate, but I don't understand why I cannot express my opnion on it without someone attacking me.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
Because you express your opinion in absolutes (emphasis mine).
An absolute statement being: assertion by the author that some fact or idea is absolutely, undeniably true[It is] a totally different person that cannot be explained away with "well, she grew up and changed".
If you make declarative statements like this, expect an appropriate response in kind. When you double-down, so will others, because now you've started a discussion about something specific. It's not an attack, it becomes a debate.
@Ryll - You didn't read what I said.
I specifically mentioned that I understand it is intentionally hyperbolic. I was just saying if we are going on what was depicted alone, it is unrealistic to say it was a natural transformation. I also specifically said I found it funny and like the joke.
Peace.
Which I was happy with until I read your edit.
On one hand, we might as well bicker about stupid shit like this because of the two-week delay until the next episode.
On the other hand, we should be focusing on the post-credits Deathtrap Dungeon content of episode 4. The stomach touching somehow more erotic than any intentionally-ecchi series in years.
My edit did not negate my previous statement, just added info about make up aiding before and after transformations significantly.
The rest of my statements were working under the untrue premise that the transformation should be realistic, which it intentionally isn't, as I specifically mentioned. A hypothetical, per se. I obviously don't think that cosmetic surgery had any part in this joke.
Peace.
I don't get why Uncle's memory-playback uses otherworldly incantations while everything else works in Japanese. Even memory-erase works in Japanese. Seems like an inconsistency done for purely stylistic purposes.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
It effects MFauli's dick, so it inevitably has to turn into an argument.It's a joke and that's it. I have no flipping idea why this joke is any less believable than all the other ones so why did it even come up. Or... I know why it came up
"The hot chick wasn't a hot child. I find that unrealistic! Mreaaaah!"
Agreed. The only reason I can come up with is that the Icuras Elran spell is an internally applied spell and doesn't use the spirits of the world. His other spells use spirits of the world to manifest, and the modern world's spirits understand only its own languages.
Peace.
His memories are from that world, so he uses that language to bring them up. It's consistent, pretty sure.
Except for the one time he used it to erase remembering SEGA no longer makes consoles, but that was also the pilot, so we can forgive it.
So if he were to replay memory from yesterday, he'd use Japanese? Not sure if we'll ever see this tested.
Forgot to mention, skulling a can of 5% shouldn't be impressive.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
The only one's obsessed with my dick are you and Kray. Wtf is wrong with you.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
In the first episode, they established that using the language of the other world doesn't work in this world. But using Japanese does. It's the first thing they establish about him using magic here.
But then he keeps using spells after that using the otherworld language...
Well, there's this guy on a message board I use that constantly complains about the absolute dumbest shit imaginable. It's pretty constant. And he's usually a real creep about it. Just a real waste of everyone's time.
Other than that, things are pretty good!
No episode this week?
Nope. Requoting the note I put which got buried in the discussion.
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