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    I really wanted to like this show based in Gigguk's video for the season, but I had to turn episode 1 off after seven minutes :/

    A literally 14yo, 38kg frail girl somehow gets to kill a room full of adults. "Where are the guards?" the mistress asks AFTER everyone's dead - yeah, where indeed.

    And her similar frail maid companion kills several adult men in close combat.

    I just can't bear this shit anymore. Who likes this? Feminists and lobotomized people without any standards? Sorry for the harsh words, but I feel offended by this anime. Sigh

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    You know why Akame ga Kill works, even though it's also kinda bad and the majority of the cast is unlikable? More importantly, why this doesn't work?

    Esdeath.

    An equally powerful villain who is also endearing and charming in her own twisted and fucked up way. You need that conflict and threat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    obviously secretly very happy to receive boobs in the face wake-up calls.
    Obviously secretly, that's a good one. He does appear more soft hearted in this life than he was to his previous prototype student.

    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    It's kinda weird that episode 1 spoiled basically all the important plotpoints of this season in such a detailed way. /examples
    My hope is that we got through all of that with enough time for an assassination arc proper. Maybe 2-3 episodes left.

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    A literally 14yo, 38kg frail girl somehow gets to kill a room full of adults.

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    And her similar frail maid companion kills several adult men in close combat.

    I just can't bear this shit anymore. Who likes this? Feminists and lobotomized people without any standards? Sorry for the harsh words, but I feel offended by this anime. Sigh
    Well... anime has had the whole 'kids killing adults' thing going on for the better part of twenty years now. Remember Gunslinger Girls? This isn't new, and attaching questionable political labels to escapism isn't doing your argument any favors.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    You know why Akame ga Kill works, even though it's also kinda bad and the majority of the cast is unlikable? More importantly, why this doesn't work?

    Esdeath.

    An equally powerful villain who is also endearing and charming in her own twisted and fucked up way. You need that conflict and threat.
    I'd argue Akame ga Kill worked because it featured regular character death long before that was common in edgy adolescent fiction... that, and some pretty good pacing. Esdeath wasn't even introduced until about a quarter in, right?

    Also, we haven't even met the 'evil' hero yet. They could be just as charismatic.

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    I didn't say that it's new. I just can't atand it anymore.

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    I see. I just don't understand why that's where you draw the line in the sand for believability in your cartoons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by neflight86 View Post
    I see. I just don't understand why that's where you draw the line in the sand for believability in your cartoons?
    Everybody has their own pet peeves. I can't read/watch harem anymore, unless there's a strong enough impetus overriding that dislike, such as the story being a good isekai otherwise. Even longer than that, I have come to dislike stupid MCs enough to drop series quickly. It doesn't matter if the MC is stupid because of the author's lack of skills (the author is also lacking intelligence) or because the author specifically wanted to write a stupid MC. The only exception are MCs that aren't genuinely stupid but still often act in stupid ways because of some obsession or equivalent (such as Black Star in Soul Eater) or just have one stupid trait for comedic purposes (like Zoro of One Piece getting lost all the time). Last but not least I hate the girls-only-can-save-the-world series, which have no logical reason whatsoever for the condition, the author just made it that way to have an all girls cast for a slavering otaku audience.

    I guess this series will be a harem one as well, but not yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    Everybody has their own pet peeves. I can't read/watch harem anymore, unless there's a strong enough impetus overriding that dislike, such as the story being a good isekai otherwise. Even longer than that, I have come to dislike stupid MCs enough to drop series quickly. It doesn't matter if the MC is stupid because of the author's lack of skills (the author is also lacking intelligence) or because the author specifically wanted to write a stupid MC. The only exception are MCs that aren't genuinely stupid but still often act in stupid ways because of some obsession or equivalent (such as Black Star in Soul Eater) or just have one stupid trait for comedic purposes (like Zoro of One Piece getting lost all the time). Last but not least I hate the girls-only-can-save-the-world series, which have no logical reason whatsoever for the condition, the author just made it that way to have an all girls cast for a slavering otaku audience.

    I guess this series will be a harem one as well, but not yet.
    Agreed with a lot of this. The only harem I care about at this point are those that 'go through with it' (aka School Days ) or have a truly exciting twist otherwise.

    Dumb heroes might be fine for me, but not unintentionally gay heroes. Ichika from Infinite Stratos really broke me back then. :/

    So many anime, movies, tv show, video games and books, on too of all the irl stuff - I have no nerve for crappy stuff anymore.

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    Asexual heroes, you mean. If they were gay, they would go for other dudes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Asexual heroes, you mean. If they were gay, they would go for other dudes.
    I mean ... some of them kinda do 🤷*♀️🤷*♀️🤷*♀️

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    This is similar to the worn-out trope of a fantasy world missing exceedingly obvious everyday things, like soap, before the mighty Japanese man teaches the hairy barbarians something that should have been invented a thousand years earlier.
    How exactly is the fact that if you wet this very specific type of rock, rub it all over your body, and it'll make you smell different and get sick less...in ANY way obvious?

    Quote Originally Posted by David75 View Post
    I was a bit surprised he knows his Mendeleiev table so well, down to several decimals.
    He also has a good understanding of matter and metals atomic structures.
    I guess he's at least College graduate or even higher. For a tool, he had quite the education and gift for learning.
    I would not be surprised he had quantum physics courses.
    I'm betting it's a Hitman situation. He has to know everything and be able to do everything, so that he can be anyone to kill anyone.

    He already said he mastered cooking so he could pose as a chef to kill someone. He probably learned all that science to pose as a professor for a hit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    Observing the 40 years earlier scene, I wonder if it was still about killing the same hero. Was the goddess originally granting the hero killer 40 years of time to get strong enough to slay the hero? Only when the earlier reincarnation turned out to be a waste of skin, she instead chose the MC, but there were only 18 years of time left for him.
    She called the NEET "number two-hundred"-and-something. She is CLEARLY not putting all her eggs in one basket.

    My prediction? The Hero is an otherworlder the goddess herself empowered to kill the Demon King, but she made him too powerful and he's a threat to her and she's trying to clean up hermess.
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    238 is neet's number.

    Trope: the hero is MC's former pupil, because isekaï and magic can do with messed up timelines...

    All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    My prediction? The Hero is an otherworlder the goddess herself empowered to kill the Demon King, but she made him too powerful and he's a threat to her and she's trying to clean up hermess.
    Maybe the demon king is the very first reincarnate with cheat powers, created by that same goddess to make the world more interesting. But then things started to get out of hand. Now she's just trying to put out the fire by throwing gasoline into the blaze.

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    Episode 5

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    Didn't the dude cause a significant explosion with a single Fahr stone in an earlier episode? It seems kind of hazardous to keep a suitcases full of them, loaded with magic, in his wardrobe. They would have more power than a MOAB. He merely copied them, a secret of some other clan, so there's no way he would know everything about how those things work. But then again, I guess the author didn't think about such things; he probably just wanted to show the dude having lots of them so that they wouldn't appear out of nowhere, with no foreshadowing, in a later episode.

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    He had one stone explode, but because he far exceeded its capacity.
    He's smart enough to know the limits of the stone and OP enough to create far better ones with a much higher limit too.
    What he lacks now is a magic bag to always have them ready.

    My guess is that those stone will help his assistants. He chooses people with mana, but they will never have levels high enough for his plans, so those stones complement that.
    I guess having some stones can help using some power without activating your mana, better stealth attacks

    All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.

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    Sure, that what he PLANS to use them for.

    But what's gonna happen is someone's gonna toss a fireball into his room during an attack, and it's going to set off the bag and turn the entire kingdom into a crater.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David75 View Post
    He had one stone explode, but because he far exceeded its capacity.
    He's smart enough to know the limits of the stone and OP enough to create far better ones with a much higher limit too.
    What he lacks now is a magic bag to always have them ready.

    My guess is that those stone will help his assistants. He chooses people with mana, but they will never have levels high enough for his plans, so those stones complement that.
    I guess having some stones can help using some power without activating your mana, better stealth attacks
    I'm fairly sure that when dynamite was first developed, most didn't expect that if it's left to sit for some years, it would start to "sweat" or "weep" and become dangerous and unstable. It doesn't really have anything to do with how smart he is or not, apart from the lack of caution. When you have a huge pile of those magic pearls in a bag, isn't it possible they will slowly leak mana? Where does that mana go? From the outer stones, it might just disperse into the atmosphere, but what about in the very middle of the pile? The leaking mana would actually concentrate there, as we can assume mana isn't even affected by gravity to a significant effect. The stones in the middle of the pile might then, instead of leaking, absorb mana extruded by the stones around them. Eventually this might lead to a situation where the outer stones are half empty, whereas the inner stones are getting overcharged.

    But like I said, the author most likely never thought about such things. In fact I bet the author doesn't know dynamite starts to leak nitroglycerin before long. If he did know that, he might have actually used the knowledge to do things differently, just to flex about his knowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    I'm fairly sure that when dynamite was first developed, most didn't expect that if it's left to sit for some years, it would start to "sweat" or "weep" and become dangerous and unstable. It doesn't really have anything to do with how smart he is or not, apart from the lack of caution. When you have a huge pile of those magic pearls in a bag, isn't it possible they will slowly leak mana? Where does that mana go? From the outer stones, it might just disperse into the atmosphere, but what about in the very middle of the pile? The leaking mana would actually concentrate there, as we can assume mana isn't even affected by gravity to a significant effect. The stones in the middle of the pile might then, instead of leaking, absorb mana extruded by the stones around them. Eventually this might lead to a situation where the outer stones are half empty, whereas the inner stones are getting overcharged.

    But like I said, the author most likely never thought about such things. In fact I bet the author doesn't know dynamite starts to leak nitroglycerin before long. If he did know that, he might have actually used the knowledge to do things differently, just to flex about his knowledge.

    Considering that the family, who uses this stones for generations, felt it was save enough to give it to their daughter who is also using a lot of mana.

    So I doubt there is anything wrong with them unless they break. But since he creates them, it seems they are not that complicated in the first place.

    I think it does basically nothing unless you overfill it with so much mana that stone starts to break and the massive amounts of mana react violently.
    If they aren't filled to the brim, nothing will happen, even if they crack or "leak".
    Otherwise they wouldn't give it to their daughter and put it around her neck.

    Kid falls down -> explodes(.gif)

    We've all seen it happen, no one wants that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    But since he creates them, it seems they are not that complicated in the first place.
    The thing is, the MC dude wasn't given the recipe for the stones. He reverse engineered them. There might have been factors Dia's clan figured out over the centuries, but some dude who was only interested in using the stones the "wrong way" would be blissfully unaware of. It's not like our world would be lacking cases of cheap manufacturing countries copying originally more expensive products to flood the market with them. Typically they are inferior to the originals.

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    Episode 6



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    Maybe it's even the author's real intention, but if you consider the MC's actions from another point of view than just the usual isekai harem, you could see his actions as coldly building a toolbox of absolute loyalty by saving the unfortunate girls. By saving them from death or worse, giving them training and, above all, a purpose in life, by making them fall in love with him, making them share a heavy secret (like he noted himself earlier), he basically does everything possible, aside from some fancy mind altering magic, to have an expendable team that would be willing to sacrifice themselves for him.

    When you consider his own aim, to kill the hero, it could be the best way to reach the goal by mainly relying on what he can do as a lone agent (with the team being an extention of his own power). The other way would be to gather a coalition against the hero, but if he's fighting against time, it could be a difficult (slow) way of achieving it. Of course he still could use such a cooperation effort, if an opportunity presents itself, but, in the end, he is an assassin, not a general or a politician.

    I wonder why the criminals in this incident weren't simply assassinated since the kingdom has such an official system? Perhaps it was necessary to use them to crack a larger human trafficking syndicate. At least the director of the so called orphanage was used for that purpose. I suppose the nobleman as well will be interrogated (tortured) for every bit of information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    Maybe it's even the author's real intention, but if you consider the MC's actions from another point of view than just the usual isekai harem, you could see his actions as coldly building a toolbox of absolute loyalty by saving the unfortunate girls
    Could see? He straight up said he did that with Tarte. He's obviously doing it here.

    If he was just niceguy harem-building, he would have taken in all the girls. But he only took the one with mana.

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