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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    Could see? He straight up said he did that with Tarte. He's obviously doing it here.

    If he was just niceguy harem-building, he would have taken in all the girls. But he only took the one with mana.
    Contradicts with his character and wish to not be used as only a tool himself though.
    Pretty sure he is just a male tsundere.

    There are ways to be benevolent and still get what you want.
    And what good would a person without mana be to him. He would just put them in unreasonable danger.

    His family works in dirty work for the greater good. In his earlier life, he just did dirty work for his employers, right and wrong didn't matter. Now it does.

    Have to watch EP6 yet but I doubt it's going to be any different considering what has happened in the very first episode of this show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    And what good would a person without mana be to him. He would just put them in unreasonable danger.
    Well, he is working as a merchant. He could always employ them for that instead of as assassins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    Could see? He straight up said he did that with Tarte. He's obviously doing it here.

    If he was just niceguy harem-building, he would have taken in all the girls. But he only took the one with mana.
    Although he stated it himself, this is still a cookie-cutter isekai series, so I'd rather take anything said with a good pinch of salt. So, I was just observing the series from the general perspective of all isekai fantasy. That's also why I don't expect him to use the girls as expendable tools. For example, I'd be exceedingly surprised if he was precisely planning to make a few of them (depending on how many he ends up with) sacrifice themselves to create an opening to slay the hero. It's a possibility, albeit a remote one, that one of them will decide on her own to give up her life to save the MC, but I'd say that's it. Of course I could be proven wrong, but I very much doubt it.

    An old proverb says, in various forms, that a bad ally is worse than a competent enemy (I believe those sayings are older than the jokes about Italy in WW2). Lugh isn't going to take random people with low prospects into his core unit.

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    There are many ways the girls can be used. Everyday nobodies informants as a start.
    The girls he "saved" in that ep will serve a purpose however small.
    Lugh even used his God level surgery skills to perfectly erase those visible scars... but he probably left the ones you can't see.
    After all these girls are perfect bait (jailbait meme here)

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    Ah, he hired them after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
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    Ah, he hired them after all.
    Yeah, considering what he was doing, running a cosmetics store, it makes perfect sense, like he even said in the episode. When you visit the cosmetics section of a department store, the ladies there are never shabby. I don't mind those girls finding relevance this way. If he had employed and looked after them forcefully, out of pity, it would have been less fitting.

    What I'm unsure of is making Maha and Tarte look like psychos by giggling and competing for Lugh's attention while they are torturing a chained man to death. Perhaps he does need to break them, who knows. If the hero is still a hero when he needs to kill him, it might be difficult for assistants that don't follow his every word without a question. Although I'm not sure he needs to go to such lengths. If he just told the girls the hero isn't what he seems to be, I'm sure they would believe him.

    The last scene reinforces my opinion that despite all of the dude's talk about the girls being pawns and every other kind act he performs being nothing but another cog in his great assassination machinery, in the end it's all talk and this is a genuine harem series.
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    He made good points about wet dreams.

    What a fucking ACE, just fuck them.
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    Episode 8



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    I wonder what's behind saying he loves Dia and wants to marry her. At least he did say he wants to make the kingdom a better place for the people. It didn't sound like a lie, and his actions so far certainly speak for themselves. It doesn't really have anything to do with killing the hero, unless you go as far as to think about the popularity or lack of popularity the hero might encounter after becoming a tyrant. But, once again, it doesn't really matter if he wants to kill the hero as an assassin, not as a rebel leader, or something. Not to mention we don't even know if the hero is as wicked as the goddess says. The goddess herself was kind of suspicious, after all.

    Maybe the dude just wants to secure himself a wholesome life, with the hero killing included or not. I wouldn't blame him, quite the contrary.

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    It's what he was looking for after all, killing the hero is the "price" for that, which he wants to avoid as well.



    Anyway, I know this show is supposed to do that to pamper some weird weebs, but it's freaking disgusting how retarded they make the female characters look in front of MC.
    When Tarte killed the wolves and started anime-girl running towards Lugh who then pet her head like a good doggy.
    Jesus christ... do they have no shame at all?

    I mean... they are just like one hundred other ways to do that without making her look like that and STILL get the message across that she is the obidient sex-slave-assassin monster she is supposed to portray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    Anyway, I know this show is supposed to do that to pamper some weird weebs, but it's freaking disgusting how retarded they make the female characters look in front of MC.
    When Tarte killed the wolves and started anime-girl running towards Lugh who then pet her head like a good doggy.
    Jesus christ... do they have no shame at all?

    I mean... they are just like one hundred other ways to do that without making her look like that and STILL get the message across that she is the obidient sex-slave-assassin monster she is supposed to portray.
    You really should try your best to totally ignore things like that if you want to enjoy regular isekai series. Isekai is the epitome of escapism and wish fulfillment literature. There are also isekai that aren't really either, but they are few and far between.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    You really should try your best to totally ignore things like that if you want to enjoy regular isekai series. Isekai is the epitome of escapism and wish fulfillment literature. There are also isekai that aren't really either, but they are few and far between.
    I know but it's really hard when it's as obvious as *that*.
    You can hide it a little, you know? If it's like *that* however, it's almost disgusting.

    I mean, it wouldn't change all that much but I'd feel a lot better if she were to kill these wolfs, walk up to Lugh normally, touch her skirt and lift it up a little while doing the "knee" (I don't know how it's called in english, it's called a "knicks" in german) and say "shujinsama, I took care of them, I hope everything was done to your liking" - You know, it would be the same thing and quite "condescending" as well, but she would at least have some kind of "false" honor.

    But like this? I couldn't help but roll my eyes as it was really hard to ignore the loss of any remnant of humanity inside her. What I'm saying is, who actually wants *that* amount of .... docile(?)... behaviour(?). I don't even know how or what to call that. I've seen it more than once already, don't get me wrong, but most of the time, the characters were like 4-8 years old OR mentally challenged, corrupted or flat out brainwashed or addicted to something.

    The helpless anime-girl running was what triggered me the most actually. Considering she isn't helpless at all and she won't get any reaction out of Lugh even if she did that for that reason alone.
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    I have seen enough isekai to just auto-filter that kind of silliness at this point. Didn't even register.

    Funny thing is that that could have been a chilling scene if it weren't in and of itself a trope. Full on psychopathy can be interesting, but it isn't explored in edgy anime, it is just dead-pan supposed to be unironically cool and empowering to have no shame or remorse for extreme/autistic behavior. What you are looking for is a deconstruction (or fiction not aimed at this demographic).

    Nice that he wants to marry at least one of them to keep the harem from being too obvious.

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    @Kray
    Let's say she tried to push Lugh's limits, they like to think they manipulate each other after all.
    In a couple, this is a very soft silly game. Usually there's no one around to spy on you, if there is the game is more subtle-usually-
    Anyway this anime fails in so many ways, why not go as low as possible and be so bad it gets fun in its own way ?
    Art quality droped severely in the last two eps. So I'm not surprisee anymore

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    Episode 9



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    Well, after the first half of this episode, the girls acting unnaturally should be the least of anyone's worries.

    The count's death will only solve the military secrets leak. The drug trade might suffer a temporary slump, but in the end it's not like the count would have been doing the majority of the work there. Someone else will simply take his place as the head honcho. After all, the production is there, and those involved will need to make a living, so they will keep producing. The distribution is there, and the bosses of that level know everything the count knew. They also need to keep the drug flowing to make easy money. The dealers are also there, and their need to earn money by selling the drug could be greater than anyone else's, while they also are the easiest to replace. I'm not sure what the plan was regarding that. The count's successor as a lord of the fiefdom will be tasked with removing the whole drug trade scheme?

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    I'm somewhat surprised Lugh didn't stick around to find out what's really going on in that kingdom. He already suspected something, and Dia did act unnaturally a number of times. Yet the dude just travelled back home to do some sunbathing. Not a wise course of action, considering what sort of choice he ended up with.

    Not too exciting an episode, otherwise. I guess the long date was supposed to underline how much Dia matters to Lugh, but it felt kind of forced.

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    The date fell flat, underwater smoochies and all, but I expect next episode we'll 'discover' that he already knew everything ahead of time, and this was simply her chance to save face and ask for help. Que shadow support. No way he'd let a battle involving possibly the hero to go unresearched- too much information at stake.

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    I hope not. He can fail. He is human, albeit with many advantages.

    So, was Dia the leader of the rebellion?
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    I just wanna know what his D-rank skill is, dammit!

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    We've never seen what the hero looks like, unless the hero has always been there with their powers dormant.
    How good/bad would the story feel like if Dia is the hero ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by neflight86 View Post
    I expect next episode we'll 'discover' that he already knew everything ahead of time, and this was simply her chance to save face and ask for help. Que shadow support. No way he'd let a battle involving possibly the hero to go unresearched- too much information at stake.
    The episode ending didn't really give such an impression. I suppose Maha would be learning more and more about it, being interested in acquiring the legendary weapon, but it would be quite irresponsible for Lugh to just take it that easy when a dire situation is probably developing.

    He played his cards pretty bad from the beginning, though, telling Dia to simply flee the country. While the dude himself is doing his best to make his family's fiefdom prosper and is working as an expendable assassin for the government, he basically told Dia to be utterly irresponsible. His position was weak after that, including what comes to Dia actually asking for his help. He already offered his help, but it was to help Dia avoid all responsibility and save her own skin!

    This brings us back to the first point: Did he know or not? If he knew enough, it means he was only probing Dia for information or reactions, and he's basically not interested in her at all romantically. In that case the assassination order wouldn't have been a surprise either. Why would he have been planning to marry her in that case, though?

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