I am not surprised of course, but still disappointed that you consistently ignore the content itself of any series that tells you you're wrong.Originally Posted by MFauli
The Platinum Generation didn't need help. Kyouya deluded himself into thinking they did. His "help" did the opposite. He realized it when Tsurayuki told him he was going to drop out. Loli-God shows up to jump him forward even further to show him what else he's fucked up. Kyouya's help was the opposite of what his teacher advised him to do, but because he's a shitty person, he convinced himself that it was right, even knowing on each discrete action it wasn't. His arrogance and self-righteousness used to convinced himself to suppress that instinct.
There's a difference between helping and coddling, and something Kyouya never learned, because all his competence in the 2006 time is unearned. He's cheating with future skills and knowledge that he's learned over a decade. Mentoring is different, giving people a chance to fail on their own. Kyouya has been directing all of them exactly how to work.
Does it? We don't know anything about him in the original timeline. We only know that he was successful somehow, and now we know that he isn't going to write at all.But let's look at something else here: You point out that Tsurayuki didn't need Kyouya's help in the original timeline. What does that mean? That means he dropped out of school. Which also means: Nothing has really changed. Outside of some temporal missed opportunities that might or might not have occurred otherwise, Tsurayuki is walking the same path as intended. Only with some extra experience.
We're told from Kyouya's thoughts that Kawasegawa ends up getting into game development pretty naturally. A self-correction to his influence in this timeline perhaps, though that scene is kind of incoherent in general. It just jumps from video editing (still filmmaking) to Kyouya telling the audience this actually means game development...whatever.
Tsurayuki could have been helped by Kawasegawa, who is much more measured than Kyouya's ham-fisted "aid" and she'd obviously listen to her own sister more. It's the most likely answer because we know from 2016 that she knows all of them personally, and they did produce an early game together. Or Tsurayuki could have stressed out so much he submits a manuscript as a last resort and gets a publication advance to keep himself in school. Maybe he submitted something for a prize, and won a scholarship. We don't know.
But we do know that Kyouya stole some of his ideas ('I guess I'm not that original after all...'), told him how to fix his writing ('I guess I'm not that good of a writer after all'), constantly told Tsurayuki how to fix his work, and eventually just completely rewrote the outline ('I guess this won't really be my work after all'). All Kyouya has been doing from the beginning is undermine Tsurayuki's work. Every time one of the trio question his judgement, he lies about his reasons, which hurts all of them more. We just saw Tsurayuki break first because Kyouya has been particularly unfair to his talent. But in the last month, he's been equally brutal to the two girls.
We'll find out where he actually ends up. A doctor full of regrets, presumably.
There's absolutely no chance any one is successful except for Kyouya in the jump ahead. Maybe Kawasegawa. All his success unearned because he already knew what trends would be popular when.Honestly, the best outcome would be if everyone actually went on to be more successful than originally. The only thing that makes me confident that won't happen is that, of course,an anime hero can never just enjoy happiness, aka getting Shinoaki as a wife is too much happiness, so of course the author will destroy this new reality. :/
I totally expect this anime to be utter trash, though, and Kyouya just casually killing his own daughter, because he feels his friends from the past are more important. That will be extremely morally wrong on every level, but that's the kind of anime this has been since episode 3.
Again, you focus on one detail to miss the actual statements of the series. Kyouya values the Platinum Trio's work. He personally has been "saved" by Shinoaki's art book. Other people have too. She's a huge influence. That's probably number one. Tsurayuki's work left a huge impression on him in the past, so he accidentally stole that detailed concept for their project, down to the specifics. That means that anthology will never be published. Nanako is evidently very famous, and who knows how many things she's been involved in. (edit: In order to help himself be successful, he's taken away that positive influence that he got in the original timeline from thousands of people)
That is an actual answer. I've been consistent from the start on why exactly I hate Kyouya's attitude. He gives up, laments, and collapses into a depressed lump rather than getting back up and continuing to try. He mires in regret, envies what he thinks he didn't get, suppresses the positive he already had, and then when he does get his redo, he fucks it up way worse because he lacks the conscious awareness of the ripples he causes. He's so fucking self-satisfied with having a degree of influence that he refused to recognize that he already had because he's too busy pitying himself in the original timeline.So a cop-out. I'd still be interested in an actual answer.
Ask yourself this: If he was so competent at so many aspects of the business when he worked at the Black Company making games, and he knew Kawasegawa somehow had a personal connection to three people in the Platinum Generation...why did he go back home again to wallow in a pity party rather than ask Kawasegawa if he could have a chance to work on a smaller scale project with her friends? The two of them were already hanging out for dinners after hours.
Because he is an envious, resentful, self-pitying, fucking loser.
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You keep using words like "stole", "deluded", "arrogance", etc., but you ENTIRELY refuse to realize and accept that the CORE motivation of Kyouya's (IN THAT MOMENT!!1 <- this is important) was to help! And he didn't think "oh, I'm gonna help the platinum generation!". No, he thought "damn, this Tsurayuki, who I've been living with for weeks now, isn't gonna make it in time, I gotta see what I can do to help him" aka he helped an individual person, a friend even.
