Which is true for Sayu, too.Originally Posted by Kraco
Which is true for Sayu, too.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
The real problem is how painfully generic this series has gotten. I guarantee most won't remember this series within a year, and nobody will remember this within three years unless they own the LNs or something.
It started out as a series with some complicated and dynamic levels of relationships of the three female leads, and the unnamed emotional trauma of the singular female lead.
What it has regrettably devolved into is a generic "woe is me" story due to an internal family 'saving face' crisis. Where a parent saving face was more valuable than the lead's personal emotional stability after a personal crisis. About as generic as you can get in terms of Asian drama.
Her brother being so surprisingly supportive is another sign of the story's overall weakness. Her former scummy coworker just gives up after forcing a conflict that fizzled into nothing. Her brother has always been supportive. She has a cold mother (boo hoo~). The conflict in this story just isn't ever well crafted.
- Sayu is surrounded by supportive people. Asami, Yoshida, her brother.
- Mishima is supportive instead of attempting to pursue anything with
- They started to build up Gotou in a partially villainous role and then she and Sayu meet and she's also generally supportive and not driving a conflict.
- The internal conflict of Yoshida not being sure whether he loves Sayu or wants to keep their relationship wholesome is severely underdeveloped thus far, though maybe Asami just tried to give it some energy at the end of this episode. It's the only thing resembling any kind of conflict with depth.
- Sayu's issues with her mother are not really explained. "I never got along well with my mother." Okay. Show us WHY.
It feels like the only thing that this series has going for it is that they acknowledge that enjou kosai has sex involved. Or that high schoolers have some degree of libido. There's hentai with better stories than this.
I suppose I read too deeply into Gotou's character looking for a conflict that the story never had to begin with. This one is going to end up in the pile with Golden Time for "wasted potential."
Can't argue there; what seemed like a promising setup for drama has boiled down into a sugary slime of 'you can do it' from the supporting cast who seem to exist to say what a cool guy Yoshida is, and tell Sayu that she shouldn't feel bad. Neither of which are particularly compelling story elements.
I never had so lofty expectations in the first place. I only started to read the manga because of the setting of an adult dude starting to look after a random girl, with no romance present at least for the time being. I didn't expect a whole lot from the side characters, but I do agree on it being a pity the story kind of stripped everything else from them and made them mere supports for the main characters. On the other hand, I dislike love triangles, let alone polygons, so I can't say I'd be missing that.
episode 10:
Sayu doesn't need help, she needs therapy. God damn.
Also I couldn't help but read an inner monologue of Yoshida's during the last scene: "Damn, gotta hide my raging boner ...!" ;D
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
episode 11:
The slap was the only good scene.
Dear god, "everyone, pls care about MY emotions, I AM THE CENTER OF THE WORLD!", Sayu has to be one of the most self-centered characters I've seen in a while.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
Absolutely agreed. I've been slapped around with slippers on my face and wooden sticks on my legs. I practically bust my gut with the shock they showed when a runaway daughter from a conservative family got hand-slapped in the face LOL.
You are loved, bitch.
Peace.
I know we've been ragging on this show for a while for being pretty milquetoast and strangely privileged from drama perspective, but the roof scene takes the cake. "You just cared about her too much" had me giggling out loud.
Is she a runaway, a concept ("You were each other's only friends!"), or the actual center of the universe? Yoshida seems confused. His visible anger toward the mother (who he hasn't even been introduced to) after the slap suggests an unhealthy level of coddling going on here.
Do we know if the mangaka is married to a much younger woman? Just asking ... lol.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
episode 12:
Ok, Sayu is terribly self-centered, but now we know who she got it from.
Seriously, why did nobody ever call out this shit stain of a mother? The final straw should have been when she said "it'd would have been better if I had never given birth to you!", like, WTF. If I were Yoshida, I would have shout back "you're the worst" at least.
She's absolutely incapable of admitting fault, and even at the end of the episode, she's the one who feels like she's the victim. Man, fuck that woman. Made me seriously angry.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
It appears that both Sayu and her mother are incapable of 'understanding how the other is feeling'... They both simply state their grievances and gnash their respective teeth while the other other doesn't acknowledge what they just heard. The show frames the mother as being fairly unsympathetic, but I'm not fully buying it- single mother raising two kids and one of them keeps 'causing trouble'. Its not a great look to tell someone they should have never been born, but we're all adults here; it should be understood that people explode and say things they don't mean sometimes. Our worst shouldn't define our whole, I believe. While I don't follow the platitudes that Yoshida spewed about who has the right to raise Sau, I did like the level headed handling of the constant disrespect the mother was showing.
As has become common, I have little idea what this show is trying to espouse at this point, but there's dramatic BGM and some character close ups, so I should feel something, right?
It was also funny that the mother double checked- 'you didn't do anything with my daughter, for real'? Does that change anything? If you knew how many partners she already had, would that change this situation? Weird.
That's what I'd love to see happen: That the mother finds out that Sayu had sex with countless adult men, LOL
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
Final episode:
- "Arigatou" - FOR WHAT?! This shit stain of a "mother" just barely could bring herself to acknowledge your existence. That woman's entire behavior is infurating!
- "I don't think age matters when it comes to love" - that's true, aniki, but THIS anime has no right to say such lines.
- final scene: oh great, GROOMING SUCCESSFUL! :/
One of the worst anime and biggest train wrecks I've ever seen.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
I thought the final episode turned out better than the preceding melodrama had me fearing... People talked and listened.
Sayu climbing into his bed (in her mother's home)- she just can't stay away from poor decisions, can she?
The two year time jump was a bit awkward- everyone looked exactly the same. Shrug.
The final scene in the street was actually a nice throwback- I like to imagine they continue living in a plutonic affection happily ever after.
Sayu and her mother were indeed pretty similar: Both barely could see anything beyond their own limited view, and dealt with problems by running away. Sayu did the running physically, while the mother did it by treating Sayu almost like a stranger she has to look after to maintain her public image, but that's all.
I'm glad I managed to finish this show, I drop too many series these days, but honestly I didn't really feel anything towards the end.
Yeah, Sayu worked really hard to groom the dude, never letting his constant rejections to make her give up. It does seem like she succeeded.
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