Hige wo Soru. Soshite Joshikousei wo Hirou.

[neflight86]

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"* Based on a slice-of-life romantic comedy light novel series written by Shimesaba and illustrated by Booota.

Yoshida is an ordinary guy who was rejected hard by the woman he'd spent the last 5 years having a crush on. On his way home after getting drunk at a bar, he finds a teenage girl crouched on the side of the road...

"If you let me stay at your place, you can sleep with me."
"You shouldn't say that, even as a joke."
"Then let me stay over for free."

Before he knows it, the girl, Sayu, has moved in with him. This is the story of a runaway teen girl and an ordinary 26-year old man.

Source: Hakuhodo DY MaP"

Genre(s): Drama, Romance

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eps 1,2

...If you look really hard, you might find some... spirited conversation in another thread for this show. I'm enjoying the premise enough and the assertiveness of grumpy main character is refreshing. "I like you... no, huh. That's too bad"., and then the next episode "Why did you ask me out to dinner? You know that got my hopes up." Romance works in a different, non-anime way when people are able to make clear their emotions and intents. I feel like there is a lot of potential for the story to be especially dense if internal misunderstandings aren't going to be used as a content expanding crutch. The girls are all adorable in their own ways, too. So far, so good.

[Kraco]

I'm not a fan of the boss. She turned Yoshida's approach down by telling him she's already in a relationship. It seemed plausible enough when it happened in the first ep, but now Gotou's basically either jealous or decided to make fun of the dude. If she's already taken, she's borderline cheating on her man, if she's not, why did she give the dude such an answer? Why not say, in any suitable words, that she's not ready for it at least for the time being? Yoshida should just forget all about her and not let her entertain herself at his expense.

[MFauli]

On the other hand, its a total chad-move on Yoshida's side to hit on his boss, lol. Didn't know that in ep 1.

[Ryllharu]

I'm not a fan of the boss. She turned Yoshida's approach down by telling him she's already in a relationship. It seemed plausible enough when it happened in the first ep, but now Gotou's basically either jealous or decided to make fun of the dude. If she's already taken, she's borderline cheating on her man, if she's not, why did she give the dude such an answer? Why not say, in any suitable words, that she's not ready for it at least for the time being? Yoshida should just forget all about her and not let her entertain herself at his expense.

The friend at work said it. The game starts the moment they say no.

There's women out there who are only interested in "taken" men. It's sometimes an ego thing, and it almost certainly is for Gotou. She knows she's attractive. She doesn't seem the type to actually fish for compliments, but she's absolutely interested in the playing the game that his friend is referring to. If she was a compliment fishing type, she'd be the weak ego type that constantly needs validation and feels threatened when she's not the center of attention. So she is the prideful ego type. Has a good self opinion, but doesn't tolerate any threats to her domination of an environment.

She wouldn't have casually told him her cup size if she wasn't still interested in securing his attentions. She's flirting. But she only became interested when she thought he had given up on her right away and found another girlfriend. She desperately needed to know, to the point that she spent money on barbecue to ask a single question.

Who else is like that? Mami in Rental Girlfriend.

She's not making fun of him. She's deeply jealous and needed to patch up her wounded pride. Gotou also noticed that the other woman at work seems interested in him, and she doesn't like that either.

The error-prone coworker is kind of the opposite case. She seems to really respect him, and the notion of being separated at work was what troubled her. Their connection feels like one that would potentially gradually blossom into a healthy relationship.

And I do expect that Gotou will find her to be a threat. She was surprised to find out it isn't Mishima he was involved in, but it was his follow-up response that made her relax. Even if she is a boss, she's definitely not concerned about the work environment. She's thinking about herself.

[shinta|hikari]

We all know he's going to end up with the jailbait. Why even bother entertaining other scenarios?

[Ryllharu]

I've have little doubt.

But I also expect significant nastiness from Gotou. Towards Mishima. Towards the lead when he eventually really does get over her. Towards Sayu once she finds out about her...

[KrayZ33]

We all know he's going to end up with the jailbait. Why even bother entertaining other scenarios?

But by the time it happens she will be jailbait no more!

[Kraco]

The friend at work said it. The game starts the moment they say no.

There's women out there who are only interested in "taken" men.

All the more reason to forget her and stay away from her. If the dude has been thinking of her for years, it doesn't really suggest he only ever wanted to spend a single night with her. If they had got into a relationship, she would have been likely to cheat on him. She might get jealous when a man (previously) interested in her appears to have gone for someone else, but her choice of words and actions suggest the same rules don't apply to her own behavior.

[KrayZ33]

All the more reason to forget her and stay away from her. If the dude has been thinking of her for years, it doesn't really suggest he only ever wanted to spend a single night with her. If they had got into a relationship, she would have been likely to cheat on him. She might get jealous when a man (previously) interested in her appears to have gone for someone else, but her choice of words and actions suggest the same rules don't apply to her own behavior.

Well.. it could also be that her reason "I have a boyfriend already" was total bullshit and she didn't start a relationship with him because she is his boss.
But she might actually *want* to be with him... not sure how office relationships (both friendly and intimate) in Japan are like.
Now that he appears to be "unavailable" she might feel pressured and starts to regret not giving a damn about position/status or relationship principles.
You only know what you want after you've lost it.

On top of that, MC is really fucking garbage - how the F do you ask your boss "What cup size do you have". Maybe she didn't want to commit due to bullshit like that, lol. Seriously, have some manners. Kinda tells me he is in for the body and not for what he said "Love at first sight" or "I liked you since 5 years ago" or whatever it was.

[neflight86]

I thought the question was a mixture of petty revenge for asking him out again and getting his hopes up, and because the josei was talking (bragging) about her own cup size and MC had no frame of reference. They seemed close enough (how they discuss work and she only lets 'him' see the slovenly side of her) that the question wouldn't be out of the ballpark inappropriate.

This kind of series really stirs my inner 'fly on a wall'. I enjoy low key territorial battles, and the game of workplace romance, both of which I expect to see going forward.

[KrayZ33]

It's just that it seemed like he would totally nail that date and then he went and said that

[shinta|hikari]

That actually left a better impression of him from the boss's POV because she knows all the men around her are thinking it, but this honest bozo actually went and said it.

[Kraco]

It's just that it seemed like he would totally nail that date and then he went and said that

As far as he knows, there was no date to nail or fail. She rejected him and told she already has a boyfriend. That's very distinctly different from saying she's not currently looking for a relationship, doesn't yet know him well enough, needs more time, etc, which still leaves a door more or less open for him. At least among decent people, not fuckboys or slut girls, the default assumption is that a romantic relationship will last. So, if she says she's already in one, it's about as prominent and permanent a rejection as you can get, aside from telling him that she's only interested in other women. And of course some less than polite ways of telling someone to get lost and never show their face again.

[KrayZ33]

As far as he knows, there was no date to nail or fail. She rejected him and told she already has a boyfriend. That's very distinctly different from saying she's not currently looking for a relationship, doesn't yet know him well enough, needs more time, etc, which still leaves a door more or less open for him. At least among decent people, not fuckboys or slut girls, the default assumption is that a romantic relationship will last. So, if she says she's already in one, it's about as prominent and permanent a rejection as you can get, aside from telling him that she's only interested in other women. And of course some less than polite ways of telling someone to get lost and never show their face again.

Be that as it may, but just because she's taken doesn't mean you no longer leave an image of yourself whereever you go or with whomever you interact with.

[neflight86]

3

That felt a bit forced, as I expect was intended. I get the girl's hang up, but is it a like a japanese trope or something to be so cynical? Does actual no-strings-attached altruism come off as such a strange concept? Then again, considering her (previous) company, it can be forgiven.

Office lady is pretty forward in her approach, and that is cute in its own way- I'm still not used to adults in anime, apparently.

So with our main three established, we have: younger/same/older, and obligated/interested/leading on. Should be fun going forward, especially since he 'owes' her an explanation. Part of me forgets that word 'getting out' about his live-in is required for the story to be spurred into development, but I want the cozy stage to continue on...

[Kraco]

I bet it was a deadly boring movie they watched. If the best moment was some corny line from a professor, how good could it have been?

[neflight86]

4

Boss lady told a biiiiiig ol' fib, it seems. That he blatantly said she would have to ask him out now is both a power play and some contrived scenario crafting...

I hope the school girl doesn't clash with Gotou too much. This doesn't seem like that kind of cat-fight show, anyway.

Circling back around- I can barely stand the clerk girl, but the story absolutely needed a blunt instrument to begin smashing the porcelain china starting to take itself too seriously. I welcome her inclusion and look forward to more meddlesome hijinks.

[MFauli]

The guy is gay. Sorry, this is just bs anime-behavior. Even if he wanted to be a gentleman and not instantly fuck a virgin, he could have said "ok, then to prove that you're serious, let's go to your place and fool around a bit. Don't worry, I won't rush you for sex". That way he could have ascertained that she's not telling him another lie and still respect her being a virgin.

But no, he fully retreats from anything sexual and even gives her the power to decide a date. So now he's forced to wait forever ... possible literally, when she has a change of heart and picks another guy.

Bs.

[neflight86]

If characters (in rom com anime) acted like that, there wouldn't be enough exploration space left to fill out the rest of the series, so him being an herbivore just has to be the assumption.

[KrayZ33]

The guy is gay. Sorry, this is just bs anime-behavior. Even if he wanted to be a gentleman and not instantly fuck a virgin, he could have said "ok, then to prove that you're serious, let's go to your place and fool around a bit. Don't worry, I won't rush you for sex". That way he could have ascertained that she's not telling him another lie and still respect her being a virgin.

But no, he fully retreats from anything sexual and even gives her the power to decide a date. So now he's forced to wait forever ... possible literally, when she has a change of heart and picks another guy.

Bs.

Gosh...why do you even watch tv/play video games/read books.

All the situations and scenes you could think off or want would end in 2 pages worth of conent

If this weren't anime/a movie and if this were a portrayal of real life situations, this whole scene wouldn't have happened in the first place.

Also, what's this weird undertone in that bit that suggest that "fucking a virgin" is somehow something special or something to strife for or a "real hit" or something. Geeee. Like out of a flipping 90s teenager movie.

I also think that you actually failed to follow their conversation properly.
Him being a gentleman? He was the one asking her to sleep with him to find out if she was saying the truth, so he kinda did what you asked anyway.

The Conversation was
F: I like you
M: Ha you are kidding
F: No I'm not
M: Then if you mean it, lets have sex
F:
M:
M:....Just kidding
F: (mustering up some courage to say it) Okay lets do it, I'm a virgin though if that's fine
M: ~~Yo wait a sec, that would make me feel bad, I don't want to be a douche
F: Do you not like virgins?
M: Nah I'm good that's not the problem, lets go slow, you tell me when you are ready (although I act as if I might deny your date request and leave you hanging)

In that regard, I find his reasoning and reaction rather normal. You'd have to be some seriously fucked up person and not interested in the woman at all if you follow through with that first suggestion.


I think the actual BS part is male MC asking something weird again.
That whole thing is so unnatural and the way he acts in general is. Not sure if he's actually retarded/awkward around girls/superiors or just super nervous around her all the time because he likes her. He is basically anime-mc emotionally dead towards romantic interests at one point and then demands and asks super awkward stuff in the next scene as if he is a 16 year old.