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    Gotcha. Appreciate the clarification.

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    Episode 22


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    what a tease, but I'm glad that there is at least a little more comming up.
    Still one of my favorite shows in the last 5 years or so. I like this show quite a lot.

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    He almost opened up, but then damn Legions interrupted.

    Shin keeping things to himself with "I didn't see" xD

    If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~

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    I was waiting patiently for the anime to pass what I've read in the LNs years ago.




    It didn't.
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    Peace.

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    I understand that Lena thinks they're dead, but she doesn't recognize the voice too?

    I get that he couldn't hear her voice until she activated her upgraded PARA-RAID and he picked it up too (the entire system is based off of his powers in case anyone forgot, and the Federacy's new comm systems are based off the old PARA-RAID), but she didn't recognize the voice directly off his mech's loudspeakers?

    Cyclops knew the second she saw the emblem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    I understand that Lena thinks they're dead, but she doesn't recognize the voice too?

    I get that he couldn't hear her voice until she activated her upgraded PARA-RAID and he picked it up too (the entire system is based off of his powers in case anyone forgot, and the Federacy's new comm systems are based off the old PARA-RAID), but she didn't recognize the voice directly off his mech's loudspeakers?

    Cyclops knew the second she saw the emblem.
    It's more of an expectation thing, probably.
    I'd probably not even realize my mom is talking to me if I were in like Africa and knew my mom would be at home. (unless she calls my name, of course... or uses a sentence she always uses or whatever)

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    It's more of an expectation thing, probably.
    I'd probably not even realize my mom is talking to me if I were in like Africa and knew my mom would be at home. (unless she calls my name, of course... or uses a sentence she always uses or whatever)
    Which he did. He addressed her as Major in the tone he always does, and the audience knows she got demoted. She noticed it too, in order to correct him on it.

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    She thought he was dead, for one.

    He introduced himself as a Federation soldier rather than an 86er, and his attitude was completely different to the person she had admired.

    She thought she misheard the "Major" part because that came through her neural link once, while the rest of the entire conversation was held through the vehicle intercom.

    While I'm disappointed and saddened that she didn't recognize him, it makes a lot of sense that she didn't.

    If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~

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    86 - Episode 23

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    I guess that gives me the answer. It wasn't "Major" that triggers her memory, but "Handler One," which I should have known. I won't deny that it got me a little misty-eyed as they slowly peeled Lena's realization that the five were her former charges.

    Kinda funny that everyone from Cyclops to the President decided to make a big trick out of it on Lena.

    The way they mirrored the Fido-vision of the end of season 1 with this season was a nice touch to show the parallel of despair on that last suicide mission and the hopeful future Shin and the others share reunited with Lena. The lesser parallels with the five reintegrating into society better to compare to the beginning of this season was another nicely done bookend to show that they're not just child-soldiers, they have gotten over that unease and are exploring their own tastes at last.

    And Fredericka got punished with excessive amount of homework.

    I do kinda wish they gave Annette a little closure with a tearful face-to-face apology full of regret of her own, but she probably figured it out when she saw the tech.

    But there's more questions! Why does Fido have a memory bank of Shin and his brother as kids? What tech or toy invention did Fido get adapted from!

    All in all, this episode made up for the mess of the rest of the season, and I'm happy with this conclusion.

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    Indeed, a very sweet ending. It's like a perfect end for a series that could've had a few more seasons.
    Even though the story is not concluded in the slightest, it felt like a perfect point to stop.

    I don't and do want more at the same time.

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    This was a better ending than 86 deserved. Good production and music, and some sweet closure. This elevated the preceding episodes, which is quite an accomplishment!

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    Quote Originally Posted by neflight86 View Post
    This was a better ending than 86 deserved. Good production and music, and some sweet closure. This elevated the preceding episodes, which is quite an accomplishment!
    You thought this deserved less?

    edit @below: I see.
    Last edited by Buffalobiian; Wed, 03-23-2022 at 04:06 AM.

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    Yes. After the strongest first few episodes, I had issues with its pacing. Also, after the first half, the story took too long to rebuild tension, and Shinei wasn't a very compelling character most of the time; too moody. Not inappropriate, but not particularly interesting. The plot armor solidified around the other squad characters after the season one break as well and took a lot of the tension out of engagements. Princess loli didn't endear to me very well and would drone on and on sometimes. The morpho arc was still good, and the finale managed to circle around and touch on the more interesting elements (to me) from the first season, like the fate of the republic, and the handler.

    For a LN adaptation, this is better than what I expect to get. I meant it as more of a compliment for the ending than a slight against 86 as a whole. The (good) emotional resonance I felt during it was mostly absent during similar scenes during the show; maybe the OST finally wore me down? It was very above average.

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    I thought the pacing was fine, but I didn't necessarily "wait" for each episode.
    Often, it's the weekly release format that ruins stuff, not the actual pacing of the story.

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    Gave it another chance and started at episode 12 where I left off. Now at episode 14. WHY did they introduce that shitty, annoying loli?! She's so dominant right now, feels totally out of place, and it's like the author said "NOW I destroy my own story, haha!". :/

    "She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Gave it another chance and started at episode 12 where I left off. Now at episode 14. WHY did they introduce that shitty, annoying loli?! She's so dominant right now, feels totally out of place, and it's like the author said "NOW I destroy my own story, haha!". :/
    Bigger picture things.

    All good questions you asked, by the way. As I understand, they all have answers too.

    Don't forget that 86 is focused on its own fictional racism as an important core element of its storylines. Frederica and how she was handled is a good display of why the Federacy is different.

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