*sigh*Originally Posted by MFauli
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At least you're self-aware <3
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
If it is going to be anyone who is named in the series, my bet would be it is going to be Princess Ariel.
The immortal demon empress would be another, but she and Badigadi are monogamous by the sound of it.
Rudeus is a cheating bastard like his father.
I have no idea why all of you just ignored that.
@Mfauli - Women also like to collect harem members if they can. Look at all the cheating bitches that have many baby daddies.
Peace.
Yeah, and I find that oddly heartwarmingPaul's spirit lives on in Rudy ^^
Yeah, and we judge them negatively for it.@Mfauli - Women also like to collect harem members if they can. Look at all the cheating bitches that have many baby daddies.
I mean, this is a bigger discourse, but I'm annoyed how modern Western society tries to equalize men and women so hard that ANY differences are being ignored and even taboo'ed. Ofc, the law should treat both genders the same. But when it comes to biological facts, there's undeniable differences. One being: Men can spread their sperm in the millions, every day. Women can only get pregnant about once a year, think about the longterm consequences. Men have to work hard to get pussy. Women protect their pussy and only have to say "you're allowed" and get a man. Man and women are not the same. Therefore, a man with a harem is something to be respected (unless money is involved), because he worked hard to get these women. A woman with multiple guys? She's just a thirsty slut, because no effort was involved.
And now you guys can crucify me as a misogynistic mega nazi
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
S2 Part 2 Episode 12:
It was a nice wrap up .... for a story that's still ongoing!
I really wish they'd have ended the season with SOME teaser for what will pull Rudy out of this massive comfort zone he's created for himself now. There's only one dangerous thing lingering above him rn, which is Hitogami's "you'll regret going there". Which I would have attributed to Paul dying, but Rudy himself said in this episode that that was sadness, not regret. And then the episode ends on "I want to live a live that I can end without regrets". So ... we probably haven't yet found out about the regret cause. And tbh, with 2 wives, a daughter, two sisters, a helpless mother and a secondary mother, there's SOOOO much potential for tragedy and thus regret. If I had to make a spontaneous guess, I'd say the regret will come from Zenith, maybe some evil spirit has her possessed and some day Rudy wakes up and Zenith has slaughtered some members of this big family.
That aside, I'm not sure whether the 2-wives-situation was done plausibly. I think it'd be best for NOBODY watching this to draw any real life-comparisons, because not only is this a fantasy world, we also had Sylphie explicitely give her okay for Rudy to fuck around, and Roxy was okay with it before they arrived. So, in this specific situation, it was a good resolution. I'd have preferred a little more Paul-references, more than they did. Some more jokes about how Rudy has become Paul for real now, lol.
Anyway, can't wait for season 3, BUT hopefully that won't be a slice of life-season stationary at their home.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
Given how garbage the overall episode of Mushoku Tensei was last week, I'm suitably impressed with how telling Norn went. Actual decent writing, natural reactions from Norn, and good acting of it.
Norn was probably the highlight of this episode for me. Even if people generally hate her, I think she had very natural reactions to the circumstances in this episode and it was refreshing for a character to be upset when she should, unhappy about the results, but understand that her father went out valiantly protecting his family. Rudeus missing an arm alone proved that the whole group went into a fight that surpassed their capabilities and paid the corresponding price.
Norn didn't immediately back down from being upset because of it, she only calmed down after they gave her the play-by-play of what led to the pyrrhic victory.
Norn is finally starting to feel like a complete character.
I think it did go plausibly. Sylphie is still a boring doormat of a character, so her accepting it was a given. Norn got to voice the expected opposition and was the perfect character to do so given how normally righteous she is. Rudy didn't deny any of what Norn was calling him out for, so we didn't get an obnoxious harem style speech about how being a pervy douche is okay behavior because of some bullshit or another. He knew he could get potentially criticized for it and did. They even nicely tied back in Norn's previous depression and to try to placate her, but while it didn't fully work, they even had Norn acknowledge that she was being a bit unreasonable and that not one of Paul's children is a follower of Millis.
It annoys me that Slyphie is such a passive character with very little spark to her. But it is consistent with her bland character.
I did like Norn's display here.
I do imagine that she'd have given Rudy a much harder time had he not lost his hand. That pisses me off, but whatever.
She burned Roxy for being small which I thought was funny given we know she's at least 50 years old.
We didn't have any room for it in this episode, but I'd love to see some Zanoba-Roxy interactions; that guy admires Roxy too.
As for the whole regret thing, if Rudy hadn't had gone:
1) Paul probably wouldn't have died because he wouldn't have made it to the bottom floor.
2) Roxy would be dead, but if they never found her then they'd forever think she's missing.
3) Mum would still be missing.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Really? I think it's weird she has such a huge problem with it. Given that the dad she worships also had 2 wives.
But on the other hand, he'd still have...the other hand.
Yeah, how DARE Sylphie be a mom. Moms are so BLAND!11 /s
No, you misunderstood something. Hitogami told him he'd regret it IF he went. He went. So now something happened that Rudy wil regret, but apparently we don't know yet what it is.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
I think it would have been justifiable and fitting her character. She believes her brother is incredibly strong. She knows he's stronger than Paul. She's heard the stories of him facing off against the demon emperor in the courtyard. She's heard all about his incredible feats. As much as she admired Paul for many years, she knows her older brother is very strong.
Had he come back unscathed, she might have thought he was pandering to her. She might have thought he could have done more, tried harder, been better, been the "Hero" he supposedly is.
But seeing him down a forearm immediately proves they were already at their limit against whatever killed their father.
I think you're forgetting something. Hitogami has an expected outcome for Rudeus and those around him. We don't know what it is. Hitogami has been manipulating him for a long time, including forcing him to manifest in his old body in their discussions. His prediction was an attempt to sway Rudeus into what HE wants, not what Rudeus wants.
Besides, Rudy concluded that he'd regret his decision no matter which path he chose. And God was like, "Mmmmm...maybe!" So he was probably correct.
I fully believe Hitogami didn't actually foresee Rudeus being able to use the teleportation circles to make the trip. While Hitogami obviously is also a liar, so anything he says can potentially be a simple lie to drive his unknown agenda, in this case even if there was some concrete thing Rudeus would regret or not regret (that is, we are assuming Hitogami wasn't lying), Rudeus might have simply avoided the whole thing by cutting the years long trip to mere months. We have seen previous proof, potentially unless it was just another lie, that as long as the other "gods" are involved, Hitogami isn't anymore quite as wise as he would be otherwise. Those teleportation circles are a secret guarded by Orsted, so Hitogami might have been mostly unaware of their potential use.
I had no problems with the second wife presentation in the episode. The scene went better than I expected. At the end of the day, it was almost funny Sylphie readily acknowledged she knew what she was getting into when she married a Grayrat. It's sure a key to a happy marriage that you can accept certain fundamental things about the other person before you make the decision to marry. The world is full of failed marriages that were based on the wish to reshape the other person after the rings have been exchanged. I'd say the important thing here is that Rudeus did pick a meaningful person, not just some random woman. She pretty much said it in this episode herself, but Roxy is a person Sylphie can very much sympathise with. Furthermore, even if Sylphie had never met Roxy before personally, one might say she almost had since without Roxy, it's possible nothing would have happened between Sylphie and Rudeus back in the village.
The question now is: Will we see the three of them sleep in the same bed? Will Sylphie and Roxy have some nice lesbian action? Will Rudy watch them like a total perv (relatable)? Or is it going to be some lame "I will sleep in a separate room" bs?
On a more serious note: Since everything is TOO happy for a series that's in the middle of its running, one thing I'd LOVE to see happen is Hitogami at some point forcing Rudy to live in his old pre-isekai body again - while still in the isekai! I've felt for a long time that, no matter what psychological harships Rudy goes through, he still enjoys the huge feat of having this new, young, handsome body. That's easily on par with being reborn at all. He might have overcome his psychological problems, but he has surely not overcome the insecurities of his old appearance. As someone who's more like Rudy's old self (worse ...), I'd love to see this anime tackle that side of his old problems, too. How would he react if everything stayed the same, except now he has his own body back? How would the others react? Would Sylphie and Roxy still love him despite being ugly and fat? Would Norn and Aisha still treat him as their brother? What about all his friends? Being handsome is such an enormous advantage on top of magic powers and stuff, seeing how Rudy overcomes his true appearance would be super exciting.
But this story will probably shrug over it. Bummer.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
I very much doubt Hitogami would even have the power to pull off such a thing. Plus why would he do it? He managed to bring over Rudeus's soul from Japan and plant it into a fetus. That must have been for a reason. By the looks of it, he's expecting certain things from Rudeus. So far he has tried to entice or trick Rudeus into doing certain things. It has worked fairly well, I suppose, though only Hitogami would really know. Perhaps he's only trying to keep Rudeus alive and make him a powerhouse for now. I can't see how punishing Rudeus by returning him to his decrepit Japanese body would help with anything. It would only make Rudeus hate Hitogami.
Also, it's not his true appearance. Not anymore. If anything, this second life is his true life, not the wasted first life back in Japan.
So third wife should be Eris... and she will want to be the first obviously
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
Why Hitogami would do it? Easy: Rudy starts opposing him, Hitogami reacts like any god in fiction and dishes out severe punishment. How Rudy could oppose him? By associating himself with another god (becoming Orsted's disciple? lol). One thing I've been sure since the beginning: Hitogami is NOT Rudy's friend. Rudy is a pawn for him to whatever means. The moment Hitogami sees no further use in him AND Rudy manages to upset him, anything goes.
Again, I doubt it will happen, but it's easy to find reasons.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
Everyone is so down on God for seemingly no reason. So far, he's never steered Rudy wrong once. But both Rudy, and the audience, always think he's up to no good.
Is it just because he has the stereotypical anime trickster voice?
I mean, it's pretty obvious we'll get there eventually.
He very clearly tried to persuade Rudeus wrong this time.
- Roxy would have died.
- Paul and one or more of the others would have died in a similar manner without the book guiding them through the dungeon.
- Zenith would have remained encased in crystal, presumably forever because they never would have found the secret stairs without going through the teleporter that Nanahoshi knew about.
- Impregnating the beast girls when they're in heat would have resulted in Rudeus losing the respect of his sister and probably the trust of his wife.
How that cascade of events serves Hitogami, we do not know. But he was pretty insistent that going to help his parents was the "wrong" decision.
But we know the outcome Rudeus chose instead benefitted Rudeus greatly despite the cost.
It's not the trickster voice. It's all the super manipulative dialogue techniques that Hitogami has been doing to Rudeus this entire time.
I'm repeating myself and perhaps other viewers disagree on my theory of Hitogami not foreseeing Rudeus using teleportation for travelling, but if Rudeus had made the trip normally, not through teleportation, Roxy would have been long dead. Paul might have also lost patience waiting for Rudeus and went back to the dungeon with the team, potentially losing more members for no gain. With those changes in place, it's entirely possible even with Rudeus, they still wouldn't have been able to rescue Zenith. Then Rudeus would have returned with absolutely nothing to show for it, only regrets. Paul might have still been alive, who knows, but I don't see how he would have given up, so he would have basically been just waiting for his death, returning to the dungeon time after time, never making any progress, until he died since it's a dangerous dungeon. Rudeus would have just cut his losses and left eventually. This could have been Hitogami's intended prediction.
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