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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    Oh, I'm sorry.

    "Godfather of Isekai" means it was done the best here even though it wasn't remotely original by the time this was written.
    Everything you like is going to be cancelled to pay for this show and the whole internet approves. Die mad about it.

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    Also wasn't a railgun since it didn't use electromagnetic force.

    That was a boring filler episode. The whole thing could've been 5 minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Also wasn't a railgun since it didn't use electromagnetic force.
    Yes...that's why it's "magic".

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    The reason I didn't consider it a railgun is because he spent so much time/words on rotating and condensing the projectile that there ended up being much less emphasis on accelerating the projectile.

    It looked faster than his previous drill bits, but there was barely any explanation for that, and spinning it certainly doesn't actually make it quicker. His focus was on making in an AP round.

    The interesting and jarring thing about this scene was what happened after the shot. When it looked like Rudy might have killed the Demon King, his immediate reaction was to check the crowd to see if they'll reject him for this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Also wasn't a railgun since it didn't use electromagnetic force.

    That was a boring filler episode. The whole thing could've been 5 minutes.
    Filler? That's interesting. This was present in the manga as well. Are you saying both the manga and anime inserted the same thing as filler? When this arc began in the manga, novel prophets were warning readers that the academy arc will last for a long time. This has been made plentifully evident now in the anime as well. I don't believe these are filler episodes at all, based on that warning and the fact everything we have seen now in the anime has been present in the manga as well, if memory servers.

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    Seems like a Demon King becoming Rudeus' teacher is probably not a non-significant plot development.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    Filler? That's interesting. This was present in the manga as well. Are you saying both the manga and anime inserted the same thing as filler? When this arc began in the manga, novel prophets were warning readers that the academy arc will last for a long time. This has been made plentifully evident now in the anime as well. I don't believe these are filler episodes at all, based on that warning and the fact everything we have seen now in the anime has been present in the manga as well, if memory servers.
    I don't know what was in the manga and the novel, but just for your information: people call something "filler" even if it's canon, when it's insignificant. For me, this episode was more of the latter. Although Darth is rigtht about the demon king's introduction being of significance. (btw. wtf, THE demon king just casually showing up at school, what's with that).

    And ofc Rudy being established as the cat girls' master is important!!1 (btw did he grab Linia's boobs or did she hit him before he got to it? :P)

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    Bonus-question:
    To those who know the entire source material of the anime, pls send me an answer via private message: Will Rudy have sex with other girls again or is he waiting until he finds THE girl? Basically, will he eventually fuck around some more or is he waiting for Eris/Sylphie? thx

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    I don't know what was in the manga and the novel, but just for your information: people call something "filler" even if it's canon, when it's insignificant. For me, this episode was more of the latter. Although Darth is rigtht about the demon king's introduction being of significance. (btw. wtf, THE demon king just casually showing up at school, what's with that).
    Haa... Back in the good old days filler meant the material anime kept adding to the source (be it manga or novel), to be able to keep running infinitely, when the anime was nearing the current latest chapters of the source material. Like the infamous Naruto or One Piece filler arcs. If you say filler is anything any individual watcher feels doesn't contribute enough to the main story, then pretty much anything can be filler and the word loses all meaning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    Haa... Back in the good old days filler meant the material anime kept adding to the source (be it manga or novel), to be able to keep running infinitely, when the anime was nearing the current latest chapters of the source material. Like the infamous Naruto or One Piece filler arcs. If you say filler is anything any individual watcher feels doesn't contribute enough to the main story, then pretty much anything can be filler and the word loses all meaning.
    Are you serious? You've never seen people use "filler" that way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Are you serious? You've never seen people use "filler" that way?
    That's like... the actual meaning and use of the word filler.

    DBZ made fillers "popular" because stretching out a Namek fight for years was deemed worse off, so other stories did filler arcs instead when they ran out of material.

    edit: wait, misread that as ""I've never seen people use filler that way"
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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Are you serious? You've never seen people use "filler" that way?
    I have. I have also tried to correct their use of the word before.

    While I also do think this academy season could have used a little bit of compression, and the whole depression arc could have been dealt with in a single episode, this is still how the author intended to build the characters and the world. Adaptation authors/directors face an incredibly tough decision in trying to figure out how much to keep, how much to cut. Anime might be an especially tough field because the rabid otaku are big BD and merchandise buyers, but they typically worship their favourite series and wouldn't want to see anything cut. However, the large audience would rather see things move forward. I like this series and the characters enough not to mind the slow parts, but I still think the manga did some things better, such as throwing the whole depression arc into a spinoff. So, if you wanted to see what happened to Rudeus before this academy arc, you needed to read it from a totally different, short manga. I reckon the manga author could see the depression arc would rub more casual readers the wrong way. The anime director decided to do the opposite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    I don't know what was in the manga and the novel, but just for your information: people call something "filler" even if it's canon, when it's insignificant.
    Since "filler" has such a specific meaning when it comes to anime. I prefer to refer to insignificant stuff that was also in the manga as "padding".

    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    Haa... Back in the good old days filler meant the material anime kept adding to the source (be it manga or novel), to be able to keep running infinitely, when the anime was nearing the current latest chapters of the source material. Like the infamous Naruto or One Piece filler arcs.
    That's still how MOST people in the anime community use "filler". That's why the website people go to to find out what episodes are anime-only is called "Anime Filler List".

    https://www.animefillerlist.com/shows/naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Are you serious? You've never seen people use "filler" that way?
    In non-anime communities, absolutely. In shows where you aren't adapting a source material, people use filler to just mean "anything that was just there to kill time".
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    Since "filler" has such a specific meaning when it comes to anime. I prefer to refer to insignificant stuff that was also in the manga as "padding".

    That's still how MOST people in the anime community use "filler". That's why the website people go to to find out what episodes are anime-only is called "Anime Filler List".
    Yes. This was certainly padding or the author stalling for time while they frantically outline or rework the upcoming arcs.

    It could get cut and not impact the story at all, because on the large, it provides nothing to the plot or character development.

    And I don't mean the demon king appearing, I mean literally everything else in the episode.

    Cliff and Elinalise getting together was at max, five minutes of content. It's 10 minutes. The tell is that there's zero issues or crisis when they get together even though there should be. Much of the rest is Slyphie "awawawawa"-ing over misunderstanding Rudy or going back to cold.

    The lead-up to the fight is a full 7 minutes of stalling.
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    This is around where I dropped the manga. Hoped they might streamline some of this arc, but if it was adapted that faithfully, I'm good jumping off the train here (again).

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    Episode 9


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    Sylphie certainly flew off the handle spectacularly. Now that I think about it, we don't have many scenes of her in grief due to what happened. I reckon she has been too busy, and it has been a number of years already. Unlike Rudeus, she also hasn't had much freedom in her movements, so perhaps it has been more difficult for her to process it, in the way of trying to make sense of it, let alone look for the culprit. So, when someone says she was responsible for it (or something close enough), Sylphie just cracked. Not that her outburst would have been anything much compared to Rudeus's when he recognised Nanahoshi as Orsted's companion.

    Nanahoshi chose quite an unfortunate explanation by telling Sylphie that she's from the same place as Rudeus.

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    Lotta weird twists here. She's also from Japan, but got here a totally different way. And is probably the girl he died saving? But she doesn't remember that part?


    Did Rudeus already know Fitz was in the mass teleportation? Or is that new information he should be reacting to right now?

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    Rudeus never told her who he was before he reincarnated.
    I like the fact that the same event in spacetime can move things to separate coordinates in time a destination.
    Though there's a time loop paradox here.
    The mass teleportation event is what triggered Nanahoshi's teleportation and Rudeus' reincarnation several years before the mass teleportation event.
    Worldlines I guess ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David75 View Post
    The mass teleportation event is what triggered Nanahoshi's teleportation and Rudeus' reincarnation several years before the mass teleportation event.
    There's no evidence that the Rudeus' reincarnation has anything to do with the mass teleportation event.

    If I had to guess, I would say the Man-God reincarnated Rudeus when he died. And then Orsted or someone else caused the mass teleportation event that brought Nanahoshi over, possibly while trying to thwart the Man-God's activities.

    Like: "Oh, I've been able to determine that the Man-God brought somebody here from this other place and time. I hate the Man-God, so I'm going to perform a big magic to try and find out more about that place/time. Oops, I made a big explosion and dragged someone over."

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    You know, I didn't write it but I also thought that someone used a massive magic event to fire their magic on top.
    Your idea was Man-God started something and Orsted messed with it resulting in Nanahoshi's teleportation (Also implied by Rudeus)
    I also thought that someone (Orsted) summoned/teleported Nanahoshi and Man-God used that massive energy to reincarnate Rudeus.

    Why ?
    Somehow Man-God can't act too much on the lower world. And somehow reincarnation probably needs a lot less magic, can be overlooked if something massive is happening at the same time and probably creates an hybrid from both worlds that is harder to erase (Nanahoshi's ideas)
    Also, reincarnation probably is ok for a God, so less exposure. Even if in that case the reincarnation in another world is a transgression, even more so if the newborn keeps every memories from their past life.
    And it was only possible because of the massive magic energy event.

    Only my ideas though.

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