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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post

    I'm surprised that after all this time, that there are still people in tents. It's been months since the disaster. Those encampments make it seem like it's been 2 weeks. That said, I'm assuming that there's funding for action.
    Months?
    Hasn't it been years? He was 10 when it all happened and is 14(?) now.
    I was confused about that as well. But it seems more like this is a camp to meet up rather than stay. Not sure though.


    I have to say however, I have no idea what people did in the past when their homes got raided or villages burned to the ground. Do they go... elsewhere? Do they rebuild?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    I'm surprised that after all this time, that there are still people in tents. It's been months since the disaster. Those encampments make it seem like it's been 2 weeks. That said, I'm assuming that there's funding for action.
    Several reasons:
    1) They are for people who arrived just recently, like Rudeus & Eris.
    2) They are for people who are just waiting/looking for family, relatives, and friends there.
    3) For depressed, despondent people who learned of the demise of their family and who have got no motivation to leave.
    4) The land is totally empty and dead, save for some grass. If they wanted to build anything, they would need to import timber.

    It's like one of those refugee camps that exist for years even in our world. Possibly people who rejoined with their family or got back on their feet after learning their family is gone moved elsewhere. It'd be pretty hard to start a new life in that place. Much easier to move to existing villages and towns out there. They would be destitute either way, unless someone, somehow made good money during their long travel back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    These kids don't "need" him anymore, he doesn't "need" them either
    Not sure how that's the case.

    If the previous episode showed us anything, it's that none of them is so strong that they don't need help sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    Not sure how that's the case.

    If the previous episode showed us anything, it's that none of them is so strong that they don't need help sometimes.
    They are back in their country. That's not the wilderness they've been traveling through earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    They are back in their country. That's not the wilderness they've been traveling through earlier.
    And do sword gods only wander around the wilderness?

    Not to mention, Rudy is not, and never was, planning to stay in his country with family members still missing in the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    And do sword gods only wander around the wilderness?
    Do all sword gods want to kill Rudy and are searching for him?
    The one who attacked him didn't even kill him and healed him back up to near perfect condition.
    No reason to act as if Rudy is in any more danger than the people Ruijerd will probably rescue to increase his reputation.
    Rudy doesn't need a babysitter.

    Not to mention that Ruijerd couldn't even do a thing if that were the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    And do sword gods only wander around the wilderness?
    He wasn't of much help against Orsted. Generally speaking, it would unreasonable to expect him to keep guarding them until adulthood. No, in fact, maybe Eris already is an adult? Regardless, Ruijerd would have assumed Eris will meet her family and Rudeus already has. There's really no sensible place for Ruijerd anymore there, unless they started paying him a salary as a weapons master, or something, kind of like Ghislaine. Or at least there shouldn't have been. They surely didn't expect Eris's whole family to be dead. But now Eris has Ghislaine, so it's cool, either way, from guarding point of view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    Do all sword gods want to kill Rudy and are searching for him?
    Maybe! He didn't know about the last one till it was happening!

    The point is, the world, ALL the world, is full of unknown dangers. And if you have no place else you NEED to be, why not stick together.

    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    The one who attacked him didn't even kill him and healed him back up to near perfect condition.
    But wouldn't have if Eris hadn't been there.

    Her crying moved the girl, and the girl convinced Orstead.

    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    Not to mention that Ruijerd couldn't even do a thing if that were the case.
    Is every threat in the world a binary "Weak enough for Rudy to solo" and "too strong for all of Dead End"? Or might there be things in between?

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    I don't know about all that but "need" is certainly not "it would be cool if he had stayed".
    That's my point.

    Ruijerd right now would be completely depending on Rudy (UNTIL something happens where he can help which might not even in the next 20 years), not the other way around.
    Not something an adult should do to a kid, especially if you consider what Rudy will try to do if Ruijerd is around. He won't look out for his own or himself, he would try to help Ruijerd first and foremost whenever possible and make the rescue of his mother/sylphie a secondary objective (as he cannot do anyhing but "travel")
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    You guys ignored my question: Who's stronger, Ruijerd or Ghislaine? Or are you unsure? I found the question interesting.

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    Ghislaine is a Sword King, but since Ruijerd uses a spear...so we stupidly can't actually compare them until we see them fight each other, or someone that one can beat but the other cannot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    Ghislaine is a Sword King, but since Ruijerd uses a spear...so we stupidly can't actually compare them until we see them fight each other, or someone that one can beat but the other cannot.
    Yeah, I just wondered whether Ghislaine would have more of a chance against Orsted or not (Ghislaine
    s first action scene where she attacked an enemy in the town with literal lightning-speed imo was more impressive than anything Ruijerd showed), and whether Eris can learn from her or not. Guess we'll have to find out.

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    Ruijerd has a few centuries more experience than Ghislaine, for whatever it's worth. We haven't actually seen how tough Ruijerd is because we have only seen him beat things that aren't so impressive and then lose against someone called a god. Nothing in between. Of course we haven't seen even that much from Ghislaine.

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    My guess is Gold title is superior to King title. So Orsted wins against Ghislaine.
    We have no title for Ruijerd, hard to tell. He's probably King level or near.
    Against Ghislaine, would his raw strength surpass Ghislaine speed and agility ? Impossible to tell with what we've seen so far.

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    Episode 23

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    Nicely finished off for now.

    -Sylphie at least is safe. Her overall vibe got a lot less approachable though.

    -Eris confirming what we knew she was feeling already. Just needs to grow her hair out a little. Also explains why there's such a big box for Rudy. Wonder if he just shoved hair into there or made it slightly more ornamental. Wonder if she's in on the plan to announce her death as well, because if she is then she'd be wandering around with a different name - making her hard to track again. And if she isn't, well then the marriage thing might come to haunt her again. Not that she'd be weak enough to be bullied then anyway.

    -Dunno if Rudy has leads, but he's heading somewhere cold anyway. Wonder if he'll run into Zenith first or Sylphie.

    -Demon God's just dumb as bricks. She's gonna run out of eyes like this to give people.

    -Paul going "Mum's waiting for your older brother to find her" rubbed me the wrong way. Really? Are you even trying anymore?

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    Yeah, has Paul completely stopped searching? That was weird.

    Sylphie being awesome is ... awesome. I hope she hasn't given up on becoming Rudy's lover, anybody is better than Eris ;o

    I liked the depiction of Rudy's depression, at least for me it felt really relatable.

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    It's pretty ironic that Eris looks up to Rudeus so much and imagines him so mighty that it never visited her mind that her sudden disappearance might actually leave him really hurt. All that admiration made her pretty blind.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    And if she isn't, well then the marriage thing might come to haunt her again. Not that she'd be weak enough to be bullied then anyway.
    She abandoned that path already. If people come looking for her because of it, I can foresee those people finding themselves with cracked skulls.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    -Paul going "Mum's waiting for your older brother to find her" rubbed me the wrong way. Really? Are you even trying anymore?
    He had to tell her something because that's how little kids operate, at least not-Aisha little kids. As it is, he wouldn't even know where the begin to look for Zenith. However, since he knows Norn isn't too fond of Rudeus at the moment, maybe he tried to make Rudeus look better in her eyes by saying that.

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    I liked the tone of this episode a lot more than the last one. Clarified Eris' feelings, but she's a dumbass through and through, so she actually hurt Rudy more than she ever intended. Ruijerd seeing the work paying off which was some good feels, and the parallel with all the lives that Rudy improves intercut between him feeling sorry for himself, reliving his original trauma, and finally getting over it for real this time was well edited.

    I did always wonder what caused him to be bullied, and it explains a whole lot more about Rudy's hangups over all this time. He used to stand up for himself and the little injustices of the world, despite being out of shape and weak compared to his foes. He even endured the beatings, but it was the humiliation that broke him.

    That said...I really disliked Slyphie's Gurren Lagaan glasses. They're really out of place in the setting. It's not quite up to the same tier of causing a reaction of immediate loathing like THIS SHIT did, but it immediately reminded me of that (Kanemoto Hisako playing Zenith doesn't help).

    If the demon queen couldn't see Zenith, how does she really know she's alive?

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    I wouldn't say Rudy is over his trauma yet. He remembered that there's someone who needs him and that gave him a new goal. He will only have truly overcome his past when he can function even without a goal.

    Btw. the whole setup of how the 3 bullies humiliated him is bs. First of all, why did Rudy even go with them to some empty basketball hall? He could just have said "not coming with you" and if they started dragging him, yelled for teachers' help. I know it's anime clichee, but that doesn't make it any less bs. And then the bullies' extreme actions. Undressing Rudy and tying him to a spot where everybody would see him. What kinda deep end-psychopaths are these 3 guys?! That's comically evil and, again, bs. Bullies don't do this because they know they wouldn't go undamaged after such action. Ofc, we are to believed that in Japanese schools this is totally normal and possible and the victim is powerless. Like, I was bullied for many years, too, and nobody ever helped me. But even then I'm convinced that had they undressed and tied me to a spot like that, somebody would have punished them hard. I don't know. It would have been better if the humiliation was done more sensible, more believably.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    If the demon queen couldn't see Zenith, how does she really know she's alive?
    The same the telepaths in the scifi novel I'm currently reading cannot read certain beings' minds, but only receive their feelings. Aka something blocks the "signal", but still leaves through enough to let there be a signal.

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