Btw who's stronger, Rujierd or Ghislaine?
Btw who's stronger, Rujierd or Ghislaine?
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
Yeah, the episode was quite stretched, unfortunately, even if it was otherwise good, for the parts that mattered. It was left largely for the audience to ponder on their own the psychological effects of the revelations and decisions shown. It's pretty clear the impact from the Orsted encounter hasn't disappeared anywhere either. All in all, even if Rudeus feels immensely sorry for himself right now, he already met his dad, his two little sisters, and Lillia, plus her mother hasn't been found dead, so chances are she's also alive, somewhere. Eris, however, just received the news of the death of her whole family, plus was told to marry some scumbag to boot, for political reasons, when her grandfather was just executed for political reasons. Rudeus woke up as the happiest man after the deed, but I doubt Eris could really feel much happiness.
"You and I aren't well-matched right now."
I guess that's better than, "It's not you, it's me," since you can read it as, "I'm going to come back, so be sure to keep up."
Maybe she should have included that line as well, then. But Eris never had much interest in reading or writing. Or any academic at all.Originally Posted by Ryllharu
I thought the episode was rather good, but I'd love to hear more about Eris situation as well.
I don't think it felt dragged out. The whole situation would feel ridicilously plain if it were done even quicker.
1. They said their goodbyes to someone they traveled several years with.
2. The whole scenery had to sink in for them (and to some degree, also for us still) as well, since it's not just a small area that got basically wiped from existence but a whole city and the surrounding villages.
I think the amount of time they gave these 2 things was adequate.
If anything, I think the whole exposition done in the middle of the episode, was done way too fast, which I really disliked.
It's not like we *only* see everything from Rudy's perspective, so they could at least have had hinted at something other than the execution. Like... why is it important for the people in the first place that Eris and the Fatso get together. The region is under fatso's control anyway, right? What does it matter if Eris is by his side or not. Do they think they get special treatment and help if Eris can somehow control his hand by being his concubine?
What kind of help are they looking for, who is looking for it? etc. etc. etc.
If the King gave it to him, I can only imagine that he wants it rebuilt - and if he can't make it prosper again, wouldn't fatso also be beheaded for failing?
I'm basically saying that Eris and Rudy sleeping together and Eris going away on a "journey" (I sure hope it is a journey and not her going to that lord) would mean way more if we could understand the severity/consequences of her decision better.
I wonder what Rudy will even do next now. Search for his mother? Search for Sylphie?
Which one first.
I wonder how he will even be able to take that statement "You and I aren't well-balanced right now" - "was it me? what do I need to do?"
Last edited by KrayZ33; Sun, 12-12-2021 at 05:57 PM.
I think the biggest thing Rudy will think about, will be "was it the right choice to sleep with her?".
I know I would. Because when THAT is the outcome of sex with a girl you like, then something was wrong.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
Minutes of reused footage set over music without dialogue is padding. No room for subjectivity on if it is or isn't. Same with the drawn-out goblet drop. I'm not complaining about the mood setting of them looking over the ruined landscape, because that is cleverly used to pad the episode length while evoking the somber finality of finding out there's no home to return to.
It's because it is Eris. Eris' mom was hot. It's likely that Eris will also be quite stunning. If properly broken and not the furious warrior we know her to be, she'd be a suitable ornament for the fatso. He's a pervert for sure, like any Greyrat.Like... why is it important for the people in the first place that Eris and the Fatso get together. The region is under fatso's control anyway, right? What does it matter if Eris is by his side or not. Do they think they get special treatment and help if Eris can somehow control his hand by being his concubine?
What kind of help are they looking for, who is looking for it? etc. etc. etc.
If the King gave it to him, I can only imagine that he wants it rebuilt - and if he can't make it prosper again, wouldn't fatso also be beheaded for failing?
Eris' grandfather at least cared for and respected the kemonomimi servants he had, even if he was frequently using them for sex.
Since they were pointing out she'd be his concubine, and this isn't Imperial era China or Japan, it's not likely to be of any political advantage. The fatso wants an attractive sex slave. Nothing more, nothing less. He already has the veneer of legitimacy by getting her grandfather executed.
I was kind of assuming that Eris, Rudy, and Ghislaine were going to take back her estate. But it looks like Eris is running away to go train with her first swordmaster instead.
Took two lifetimes, but he finally cashed in his V-card!
Boy, some of you guys really hate subtext...
Well, he's got no clues for either. So any searching is searching for both.
Yeah, I'd say it could be of political disadvantage for Eris. It would mean more legitimacy for the scumbag because anything that was hers would be then be his. Maybe even more importantly, though, it would remove Eris from most political considerations, used/sponsored by any political adversaries of the scumbag, if not by Eris herself. Since it's a world of sword & sorcery, individuals can be superbly powerful. If Eris manages to get famously powerful, she will be a political force on her own. That would make her also a political joker (card), which could kick the scumbag in the ass later. However, if Eris would now be reduced into a role of concubine (sex slave), all such possibilities would be gone. All she would basically gain would be food and a roof over her head, for a high price.
Last edited by Kraco; Mon, 12-13-2021 at 03:01 AM. Reason: To make it more clear.
dunno, I skipped through the episode after reading your post and didn't even find all to many scenes you were talking about.
One was during the sex, the other was during his time when he revisited his destroyed home and some more when Ruijerd left(?). Either way, the reused scenes didn't feel like they were dragging it out at all, but rather enhancing the whole situation.
I found it to be sweet.
But that doesn't explain anything and just adds to my problem with it. The old man-servant obviously thinks there is some kind of benefit for her and for her people, in fact, he thinks the people would benefit the most from this and he was willing to "sacrifice/use" Eris for this, as long as Eris decides to do it herself at least.It's because it is Eris. Eris' mom was hot. It's likely that Eris will also be quite stunning. If properly broken and not the furious warrior we know her to be, she'd be a suitable ornament for the fatso. He's a pervert for sure, like any Greyrat.
Eris' grandfather at least cared for and respected the kemonomimi servants he had, even if he was frequently using them for sex.
Since they were pointing out she'd be his concubine, and this isn't Imperial era China or Japan, it's not likely to be of any political advantage. The fatso wants an attractive sex slave. Nothing more, nothing less. He already has the veneer of legitimacy by getting her grandfather executed.
I was kind of assuming that Eris, Rudy, and Ghislaine were going to take back her estate. But it looks like Eris is running away to go train with her first swordmaster instead.
I'm wondering what this benefit could be? Where is this coming from? That's why I think this should've gotten a proper setup through some "out of Rudy's view" developments.
Anyway, due to skipping through the episode again I realized what Eris is saying in that letter and what she is wanting to do.
The scene where Rudy tried to dispel his own magic gave it a bit away I think. Seems like Rudy is ready to face Orsted again or at least keep on going, while Eris doesn't want it at all. It feels like Eris was trying to bind him down but seeing as that is not what he wants, she decided to do something with Ghislaine so that she remains worthy - probably, seeing how her last encounter ended without her doing anything while Rudy at least managed to score a hit, while having his lungs demolished no less?
edit: man, this episode gave me a bad aftertaste overall.. I really wished for Eris and Rudy to be a thing for much longer.
Last edited by KrayZ33; Mon, 12-13-2021 at 02:44 AM.
I don't believe she's worried about binding him down. She just can't live with being weaker than Rudeus. She has always been a fighting oriented person. She was born into nobility, but was looking up to Ghislaine and scoffing at academics. She loves the sword. After the initial shock, she was enthralled by the long adventure, full of danger, through the demon lands and the human continent. She has got real talent, which she knows herself, yet the younger Rudeus still keeps beating her. Rudeus had the unfair advantage of not being affected by Orsted's fear curse, but it's not like Eris would know that. In her eyes Rudeus must have looked like an ultimate badass. This difference in power ought to be what Eris can't live with. She loves Rudeus, but doesn't want to stand next to him while being useless compared to him. A tragically wrong notion, but it's still something gnawing at her. We saw an earlier sign of it back in the demon continent harbour town, where Eris was sure she can defeat Rudeus, but due to his new ocular power, she got beaten.
Ahhh... so maybe Eris wanted some kind of memeto to remind herself of Rudy and the decision was already made? That would work as well.
Oh man, gimme back my Eris!
It must suck so hard for Rudy, considering that he is alone now as a 14 year old boy in the middle of a desolate place.
Last edited by KrayZ33; Mon, 12-13-2021 at 03:45 AM.
Until weeb-Rudy realizes: "OMG, I just had hot sex with a 15 yo, with not responsibilities! Now I can go look for Sylphie, the hot elf girl! I wonder what she looks like! And maybe I'll run into Roxy even!"
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
Even if weeb-Rudy were like that, he has now tasted the forbidden fruit but lost it. So... even then, it must suck for him.
That's every man ever in the history of men that had a woman but then lost access to her :P
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
I'm a little confused as to why Rujierd left in the first place.
His goal is to repair the Superd reputation. Which hanging out with Rudy was accomplishing.
It's not like he has something else to do, so why not stick with them?
That was kinda my interpretation of her actions as well.
It's too bad her letter doesn't make that clear, leaving Rudy thinking he did something wrong.
I'd assume he will go back to the demon continent. That's his home, ultimately. It would be of scant comfort if the Superd reputation was tolerable in the human lands, but back in the demon lands they were still considered murderous monsters. He also already declared Eris a warrior, so she doesn't need his help anymore. Rudeus was acting as the brains of their group from the beginning (with varying success), so it goes without saying he needs no guardians, despite being the youngest.
In Ruijerd's case, I wouldn't be suprised if he thinks he is causing trouble for these kids.
Rudy, after all, did always go through a lot of steps and kept his reputation in mind.
While they would certainly not view it like that, he himself might... and to be fair, he kinda has a point.
These kids don't "need" him anymore, he doesn't "need" them either nor would he like to cause them trouble even if he did.
On the other hand, he could help Rudy find his mother/friend and do what he does while doing so.
But then again, if Rudy has to do it while also helping the Sperd, he won't focus on what is important to him.
Last edited by KrayZ33; Mon, 12-13-2021 at 11:46 AM.
Rujierd had to bring the good news to the rest of his people.
Shave your heads and the curse will dissipate.
Ruijerd's mission is to escort them home. He's done that. Rudy promised that he'd fix his reputation, and the Man-God has given them an answer to that now, so Rudy's role is done. Like Kraco said, heading back to the Demon Continent would be Ruijerd's next move. He also has other tribesmen to gather and spread news about. Maybe even get them to shave their head. (edit: what Ryll said)
Eris totally decided to leave before fucking Rudy. She didn't decide that afterwards. Like she said, she wanted Rudy to be family so she has someone to go back to after her journey is over. She's going to train while Rudy goes to the Magic Academy since that's the only way he'll advance. Somehow finding Sylphie and Zenith will fit into this picture.
I'm surprised that after all this time, that there are still people in tents. It's been months since the disaster. Those encampments make it seem like it's been 2 weeks. That said, I'm assuming that there's funding for action.
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